We can only afford championship players at best, we have no chance of even poaching players from newly promoted clubs never mind established ones. Which signing have we made to ever think Albrighton was a realistic target ?? From a premiership club that finished 5th last season ? Give me a break.
We have a established manager (unlike palace who have only had a manager for 2 weeks and signings are coming through door left, right and centre). Unfashionable clubs like Brighton seem to get their main targets and get early business done.
We learn absolutely nothing transfer window in, transfer window out.
We have the finances and clout to buy mid decent championship players and hope they make the grade (like Collins) what's difficult about that ?
Find more Collins but in different positions wasting time on bogus interest in players we have no chance of getting ?? Is it for show to the fans ? As there not kidding anybody here.

Don't worry be happy,just enjoy our fantastic ride in the premiership with Sir Sean et al.

Have a lie down mate.

Go and make yourself a cup of tea, stick the tele on, try and relax. It will all be okay.

You've been banging this drum for years about the recruitment, maybe stick your cv in with the club and show them how it's done and give us a break

Stop panicking I’ve herd stephens is nearly fit utc

s6t9a2f3f wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:10 pm

Unfashionable clubs like Brighton seem to get their main targets and get early business done.

And where are Brighton in the league with all their fantastic signings?

Errrrrrrrrrrrr it's end of April guys, were playing premiership football AGAIN next season. We will have the same manager and set up AGAIN. We can only afford mid decent or young unproven championship players (who might fancy a year or too as a premiership player, who knows) Here is the championship teams 99% of the players we can afford will not be at the euros so you can start work right now. It would be extremely handy to have players in for July pre season if you don't mind.
CV ?? get my 9 year old neice to do the job.

Spijed wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:19 pm

And where are Brighton in the league with all their fantastic signings?

Can we answer that question next season please.

s6t9a2f3f wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:23 pm

Errrrrrrrrrrrr it's end of April guys, were playing premiership football AGAIN next season. We will have the same manager and set up AGAIN. We can only afford mid decent or young unproven championship players (who might fancy a year or too as a premiership player, who knows) Here is the championship teams 99% of the players we can afford will not be at the euros so you can start work right now. It would be extremely handy to have players in for July pre season if you don't mind.
CV ?? get my 9 year old neice to do the job.

Get your 9 year old niece to write your posts

I've got an headache reading this crap.
End of April???

s6t9a2f3f wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:23 pm

Errrrrrrrrrrrr it's end of April guys, were playing premiership football AGAIN next season. We will have the same manager and set up AGAIN. We can only afford mid decent or young unproven championship players (who might fancy a year or too as a premiership player, who knows) Here is the championship teams 99% of the players we can afford will not be at the euros so you can start work right now. It would be extremely handy to have players in for July pre season if you don't mind.
CV ?? get my 9 year old neice to do the job.

I'm confused, s6t9a2f3f, what are you trying to tell us? When was it "the end of April?" What is this "premiership" that you write about? It's been called the Premier League for a long time.

Sometimes football doesn't work out as you'd like it to. Reference the sale of Ralph Coates and Martin Dobson, as examples. Others will have their own references.

UTC

taio wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:30 pm

Get your 9 year old niece to write your posts

I suspect even she's fed up with his waffle

Relax, we’re currently 5th in the table

Without a doubt my favourite time of the year. What a fanny.

Paul Waine wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:31 pm

I'm confused, s6t9a2f3f, what are you trying to tell us? When was it "the end of April?" What is this "premiership" that you write about? It's been called the Premier League for a long time.

Sometimes football doesn't work out as you'd like it to. Reference the sale of Ralph Coates and Martin Dobson, as examples. Others will have their own references.

UTC

The confusing thing to us all is :

We know where to look for the players we can afford and its a very small pool.

We know we have to take risks as we can't sign many players to walk straight into the 1st team

We know we have to gamble on the Taylors, Brownhills, Collins that they make the grade.

We know as per Stephens, Bridgwater that getting players in early is essential to get used to our fitness and playing style.

If you can't follow the above twice a year for the last goodness knows how many years - get out and get people in that may be able to follow the simple procedure.

Still confused ?

s6t9a2f3f wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:43 pm

The confusing thing to us all is :

We know where to look for the players we can afford and its a very small pool.

We know we have to take risks as we can't sign many players to walk straight into the 1st team

We know we have to gamble on the Taylors, Brownhills, Collins that they make the grade.

We know as per Stephens, Bridgwater that getting players in early is essential to get used to our fitness and playing style.

If you can't follow the above twice a year for the last goodness knows how many years - get out and get people in that may be able to follow the simple procedure.

Still confused ?

More than ever who the **** is bridgwater ?

Try slowly breathing into a paper bag or something

Bridgewater?

Surprised anybody remembers him to notice wrong name

Another recruitment impact

I’m beginning to think the OP’s username was a spelling mistake

Like a drink over troubled water.

Recruitment is pathetic

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

this thread is pathetic

It was worth testing the water with Albrighton. Rodgers said right from the start of our interest that he didn’t want the player to leave and Leicester have backed him up. It took a 3 year new contract to secure him and that was always going to be the stumbling block.
It definitely shown ambition by Burnley and while many thought Albrighton would be a very good signing , such ambition will bring its rewards

I genuinely can't work out if this thread is a wind up by the OP or not, but it will be interesting to revisit it in about 4 weeks time, when we can truly review our summer transfer business.

It's still only the 30th July, sure we'd all like to get players in early, and we have managed that with Collins and Hennessey, but the REALITY is we don't have the vast funds to simply chuck 10's of millions at available targets, this plus our sensible policy on wages, will always mean we're going to have to be patient and hope we can do some business in the final week of the window, when the selling clubs, and the players and agents might realise that their demands won't be met as they expected.

If anybody expected anything different in this window then they're seriously deluded, we have to live within our limits, and if that means we miss out on some of our top targets so be it, I'd rather have guys who aren't coming to just pick up their final pay check, and who're totally committed to the cause.

I fail to see the obsession with Brighton, they are the ultimate plastic club, and it's only due to Tony Bloom propping them up that they're able to splash out the cash they do, although TBF to them they have just sold Ben White to Arsenal for £50m, but their present situation reminds me a lot of Bolton under Eddie Davies, and look how that turned out.

Let's just hold fire, and wait and see where we are at the end of the window, patience is a virtue as the saying goes.

I don’t know why this came to mind but that OP reminded me of that hysterical tantrum blubbing vicar from the film Zulu.

‘We’re all going to die, we’re all going to die’.

I feel you’ve shown your hand a few weeks too early with this OP. Come back when the window has closed and we’re in the same position and you won’t find many, if any, disagreeing.

Come back in a few weeks and then see if you still feel the same. Until then time to cool.

harpers_perm wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:33 pm

I don’t know why this came to mind but that OP reminded me of that hysterical tantrum blubbing vicar from the film Zulu.

‘We’re all going to die, we’re all going to die’.

So he hasn’t got a valid point then? So we are all happy with our current squad and that it is doubtful that we will do any significant business in the transfer market prior to the big kick off?

You know those adverts for someone having a stroke....

Are we and is it? ^^^

eh?

Another great thread, just what we need!

Jamesy wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 30, 2021 10:04 pm

So he hasn’t got a valid point then? So we are all happy with our current squad and that it is doubtful that we will do any significant business in the transfer market prior to the big kick off?

No we aren't all happy with it, but we have all discussed it at length, usually trying to stay on one thread where possible and behaving like grown ups.

This is the 2nd thread in less than a week where the OP has had a full blown tantrum about the transfer window.

It's already been suggested, but in case you missed it, the OP needs to find a new hobby because following Burnley clearly makes them effing miserable

Plastic sheet time

s6t9a2f3f wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:10 pm

We can only afford championship players at best, we have no chance of even poaching players from newly promoted clubs never mind established ones. Which signing have we made to ever think Albrighton was a realistic target ?? From a premiership club that finished 5th last season ? Give me a break.
We have a established manager (unlike palace who have only had a manager for 2 weeks and signings are coming through door left, right and centre). Unfashionable clubs like Brighton seem to get their main targets and get early business done.
We learn absolutely nothing transfer window in, transfer window out.
We have the finances and clout to buy mid decent championship players and hope they make the grade (like Collins) what's difficult about that ?
Find more Collins but in different positions wasting time on bogus interest in players we have no chance of getting ?? Is it for show to the fans ? As there not kidding anybody here.

Does t' think Burnley and surrounds is "Fashionable"........give it a wobble!

Did someone just figure out that we are in a competition where the team with the most money wins and we don't have any money?

Always been that way.

Bob Lord knew that back in the day and he saw what would happen when players started going to the highest bidder. Burnley would never be able to compete.

And it is also why Dyche is a f@$king genius - to keep us in the PL for so many seasons is just amazing.

Like every other season in the PL, this one is going to tough, but as long as SD is there - we'll be reyt.

I don’t disagree with the OP.

We’ve an ageing squad or out of contract squad that has performed brilliantly to keep us in the Premier league. We needed to begin the rebuild three seasons ago to ensure we don’t do a Stoke. We didn’t, and how we’re chasing our tails in a competitive market.

Collins is a great signing, but that needs to be backed up with potentially ten more young players (internal/external)

Barnes
JRod
Cork
JBG
Tarks (not 30 plus but potentially leaving)
Mee
Lowton
Pieters
Westwood
Stephens

are all 30 plus and will need replacing in the next twenty four months.

We are at the tipping point of effectiveness vs sentiment.

s6t9a2f3f wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:10 pm

We can only afford championship players at best, we have no chance of even poaching players from newly promoted clubs never mind established ones. Which signing have we made to ever think Albrighton was a realistic target ?? From a premiership club that finished 5th last season ? Give me a break.
We have a established manager (unlike palace who have only had a manager for 2 weeks and signings are coming through door left, right and centre). Unfashionable clubs like Brighton seem to get their main targets and get early business done.
We learn absolutely nothing transfer window in, transfer window out.
We have the finances and clout to buy mid decent championship players and hope they make the grade (like Collins) what's difficult about that ?
Find more Collins but in different positions wasting time on bogus interest in players we have no chance of getting ?? Is it for show to the fans ? As there not kidding anybody here.

On Dear!

Its funny how so many less fashionable clubs benchmark themselves on the "Burnley model" when gaining promotion to the PL. For a small club we do so many things right, however I can see the sentiments of the OP. We have in the last 3-4 years become increasingly poor in such a critical area of our business ie recruitment. I am not talking about spending loads of cash, just being "smarter" in the way we do business. At times I think the biggest hurdle, despite his brilliance at managing us, is our own manager who seems to grossly dislike the concept of loans

Claret_tinted wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:49 am

I don’t disagree with the OP.

We’ve an ageing squad or out of contract squad that has performed brilliantly to keep us in the Premier league. We needed to begin the rebuild three seasons ago to ensure we don’t do a Stoke. We didn’t, and how we’re chasing our tails in a competitive market.

Collins is a great signing, but that needs to be backed up with potentially ten more young players (internal/external)

Barnes
JRod
Cork
JBG
Tarks (not 30 plus but potentially leaving)
Mee
Lowton
Pieters
Westwood
Stephens

are all 30 plus and will need replacing in the next twenty four months.

We are at the tipping point of effectiveness vs sentiment.

Spot on

Claret_tinted wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:49 am

I don’t disagree with the OP.

We’ve an ageing squad or out of contract squad that has performed brilliantly to keep us in the Premier league. We needed to begin the rebuild three seasons ago to ensure we don’t do a Stoke. We didn’t, and how we’re chasing our tails in a competitive market.

Collins is a great signing, but that needs to be backed up with potentially ten more young players (internal/external)

Barnes
JRod
Cork
JBG
Tarks (not 30 plus but potentially leaving)
Mee
Lowton
Pieters
Westwood
Stephens

are all 30 plus and will need replacing in the next twenty four months.

We are at the tipping point of effectiveness vs sentiment.

The simple reason why Stoke went down hill was that supporters wanted to play "better football". Never ends well.

Spijed wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:44 am

The simple reason why Stoke went down hill was that supporters wanted to play "better football". Never ends well.

I’m pretty certain that’s not the reason Stoke went down hill.

Stoke went down because of ageing squad and sentiment. Pulis is everything Dyche doesn’t want to become.

The fans can ask for what they want, do you think managers listen?

Old squad = increased injuries

After Stoke got rid of Pulis in their next thress season they got their best three league finishes since the mid 70's. No matter how many times this is pointed out to Spijed he still continues to trot out this nonsense

Claret_tinted wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 31, 2021 11:27 am

Stoke went down because of ageing squad and sentiment. Pulis is everything Dyche doesn’t want to become.

The fans can ask for what they want, do you think managers listen?

Old squad = increased injuries

I don't think the Stoke squad that was relegated included many over 30s. In fact, you could argue that there was a lack of PL experience.

Claret_tinted wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:49 am

I don’t disagree with the OP.

We’ve an ageing squad or out of contract squad that has performed brilliantly to keep us in the Premier league. We needed to begin the rebuild three seasons ago to ensure we don’t do a Stoke. We didn’t, and how we’re chasing our tails in a competitive market.

Collins is a great signing, but that needs to be backed up with potentially ten more young players (internal/external)

Barnes
JRod
Cork
JBG
Tarks (not 30 plus but potentially leaving)
Mee
Lowton
Pieters
Westwood
Stephens

are all 30 plus and will need replacing in the next twenty four months.

We are at the tipping point of effectiveness vs sentiment.

Of course the majority of the squad will need replacing in the next couple of years, however we can't totally rip up the blueprint which has served us so well, those players you've listed are hardened PL pros, who'll know how to survive in this league, if we just jettison that core and replace them with kids or younger players from the Champ, we'll almost certainly be staring at relegation, it's got to be a gradual process in our rebuilding.

Collins for Tarks is a good start, and if we can get a couple more over the line in this window, and perhaps another couple in January, that should make next summer an easier time, as we'll only need to be looking 4/5 new signings instead of wholesale changes.

Teams that embark on radical overhauls often struggle to integrate all their new arrivals, and usually they get relegated.

Evolution not revolution has to be the watchword for us.

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:34 pm

Evolution not revolution has to be the watchword for us.

That's why Crystal Palace are taking a big risk in appointing Patrick Vieira. It very much sounds like he is trying to get them to play in a completely different way to Roy Hodgson.

It may work, and fair play to them if it does but it is one big gamble.

Spijed wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:49 pm

That's why Crystal Palace are taking a big risk in appointing Patrick Vieira. It very much sounds like he is trying to get them to play in a completely different way to Roy Hodgson.

It may work, and fair play to them if it does but it is one big gamble.

Indeed! and if CP lose their first 4/5 games, or fail to collect many points in the opening weeks of the season, let's see exactly how patient their fans are with Vieira and his new methods, Frank De Boer wasn't given time to implement his philosophy on Palace, and most managers aren't in the cut throat world of the PL.