Is he likely to be re-signed if we fail to bring in anyone else to play wide, or is it just me being cynical?

Dyche has said he wouldn’t rule it out and didn’t want to lose him in the first place!

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:09 pm

Dyche has said he wouldn’t rule it out and didn’t want to lose him in the first place!

If he signs, then those claiming he was only here to get fit and have somewhere to train are going to look rather silly!

Really don't get the brouhaha over this. Dyche didn't want to lose him.

If Dyche thinks he's good enough then it doesn't matter if he played for us before????

I really didn't see him give us anything first time around.

@CT what was his average score on player ratings for us please?

Rowls wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:14 pm

Really don't get the brouhaha over this. Dyche didn't want to lose him.

If Dyche thinks he's good enough then it doesn't matter if he played for us before????

I get your point, however we have Mancini sat there watching a non BFC player play in 2 games for us against tougher opposition, where he had played quite well previously, what message does that give him or any other young player coming through?

He wasn’t good enough 3 years ago but yeah let’s sign him up I’m sure his game has improved a lot now he’s 34.

If he gets a year, the only time to worry is if he starts games. Bringing him on to use his experience to close games out should be acceptable

I think the best compliment I could extend to re-signing Lennon would be that he'd be better than having Pieters out on the wing again.

Still don't think some of you get what padding out the squad means. Lennon is a perfect example of padding out. Experienced player, knows he isn't guaranteed a start but is reliable and fills a slot, even if it's as back up. It allows another season to develop players and/or sign a replacement.
If Lennon was to sign I don't think he's expecting to walk into the starting XI.
Dyche knows that too but it fills a spot where previously we've had to shove Brownhill or Pieters and that is not their position.
He won't be the last of our transfer business and he's not the player who'll start on the right wing come the close of the window.

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:24 pm

If he gets a year, the only time to worry is if he starts games. Bringing him on to use his experience to close games out should be acceptable

So you are saying he'll only be any use if we are winning?

BenWickes wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:28 pm

Still don't think some of you get what padding out the squad means. Lennon is a perfect example of padding out. Experienced player, knows he isn't guaranteed a start but is reliable and fills a slot, even if it's as back up. It allows another season to develop players and/or sign a replacement.
If Lennon was to sign I don't think he's expecting to walk into the starting XI.
Dyche knows that too but it fills a spot where previously we've had to shove Brownhill or Pieters and that is not their position.
He won't be the last of our transfer business and he's not the player who'll start on the right wing come the close of the window.

If he’s not the last of our transfer business, I hope he’s the oldest and the worst of it.

BenWickes wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:28 pm

Still don't think some of you get what padding out the squad means. Lennon is a perfect example of padding out. Experienced player, knows he isn't guaranteed a start but is reliable and fills a slot, even if it's as back up. It allows another season to develop players and/or sign a replacement.

So kicking the can down the road. Again.

If we sign Lennon again, it will be just as embarrasing as signing Crouch or Stephens. So it wouldn't surprise me if we did.

Didn’t Lennon refuse to play while still under contract?

The problem with "padding out" the squad is that it doesn't create competition for first team starts.

I couldn't care less whether we sign Lennon or not as long as those who play for us help to keep us in the Premier League.

BenWickes wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:28 pm

Still don't think some of you get what padding out the squad means. Lennon is a perfect example of padding out. Experienced player, knows he isn't guaranteed a start but is reliable and fills a slot, even if it's as back up. It allows another season to develop players and/or sign a replacement.
If Lennon was to sign I don't think he's expecting to walk into the starting XI.
Dyche knows that too but it fills a spot where previously we've had to shove Brownhill or Pieters and that is not their position.
He won't be the last of our transfer business and he's not the player who'll start on the right wing come the close of the window.

34 year old coming to the end, I'd imagine he will be looking for a big pay package. He was on a big salary last time (for a club like ours)
I'd rather we did some padding with younger players on a lower wage packet, raw with some potential.

Lennon has always been about pace, he's well over a year older than the last time we had him.

Spijed wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:38 pm

I couldn't care less whether we sign Lennon or not as long as those who play for us help to keep us in the Premier League.

If we do sign Lennon instead of someone decent then there is less chance we stay in the Premier League

BenWickes wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:28 pm

Still don't think some of you get what padding out the squad means. Lennon is a perfect example of padding out. Experienced player, knows he isn't guaranteed a start but is reliable and fills a slot, even if it's as back up. It allows another season to develop players and/or sign a replacement.
If Lennon was to sign I don't think he's expecting to walk into the starting XI.
Dyche knows that too but it fills a spot where previously we've had to shove Brownhill or Pieters and that is not their position.
He won't be the last of our transfer business and he's not the player who'll start on the right wing come the close of the window.

Ben-if we are definitely signing a "proper pacy" right winger then I fully see your logic of having squad depth. Sadly many fans dont share that confidence, owing to our recruitment history in the past two or more years. It would not surprise some of us if we did not make another first 11 signing. I hope I am wrong

Didn't he have a good game against Bournemouth at home though?

joey13 wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:33 pm

Didn’t Lennon refuse to play while still under contract?

I think so.

fidelcastro wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:12 pm

If he signs, then those claiming he was only here to get fit and have somewhere to train are going to look rather silly!

Phil Bird said that today on the ClaretsPlayer commentary.

fidelcastro wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:12 pm

If he signs, then those claiming he was only here to get fit and have somewhere to train are going to look rather silly!

No they are not, that's what was picked up from the media last Tuesday. No one on here was claiming it, just repeating what had been said.

joey13 wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:33 pm

Didn’t Lennon refuse to play while still under contract?

No - not at all. Dyche made that decision.

Highest paid player here when he signs. In Dychey we trust

Lennon would just be a resource drain. He offered nothing the last time he played for us.

Our squad is already creaking badly as it is, more deadwood won’t fix the problem.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:56 pm

No - not at all. Dyche made that decision.

From Sky Sports News:

"Aaron Lennon will leave Burnley on June 30 after rejecting short-term deal to complete season. Aaron Lennon will leave Burnley when his contract expires on June 30 after rejecting an offer to stay until the end of the season.20 Jun 2020"

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:10 pm

From Sky Sports News:

"Aaron Lennon will leave Burnley on June 30 after rejecting short-term deal to complete season. Aaron Lennon will leave Burnley when his contract expires on June 30 after rejecting an offer to stay until the end of the season.20 Jun 2020"

Whatever sky might have said, he did not decline playing at Man City.

Local cricketer wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:04 pm

Highest paid player here when he signs. In Dychey we trust

Don't talk rot he'll be nowhere near our highest earner if he should sign, and the reason people back SD is because he's kept us in the PL for 5 seasons in a row now, and despite our troubles in the market you wouldn't bet against him making that 6 next year.

Local cricketer wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:04 pm

Highest paid player here when he signs. In Dychey we trust

Don't talk rubbish. ( I'm being polite there too)..

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:28 pm

So you are saying he'll only be any use if we are winning?

I am not confident that he could come on and change a game , he’s not been a game changer for many years now.
I can see him coming towards the end of a game to give the required discipline needed to help the side keep whatever points they’ve got. That might also mean hanging on to a point as well.
The squad numbers permitted on match days are much bigger than they used to be; some days he could be used and other days not so.

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:12 pm

Don't talk rot he'll be nowhere near our highest earner if he should sign, and the reason people back SD is because he's kept us in the PL for 5 seasons in a row now, and despite our troubles in the market you wouldn't bet against him making that 6 next year.

75 thousand a week in Turkey and was also offered 75 thousand a week in the Middle East. He isn’t coming here for a packet of chocolate buttons. All on the manager is this and nothing to do with Pace

Dyche can't help himself.

Can't cope with the owners buying young players with potential so has to even it out by bringing old experienced players in.

Shambles at the minute, let's hope the next 2 weeks improve it.

Our previous board refused to give Lennon a new deal, I assume due to wages as much as age. We all know Dyche wasn't happy that a few older high earners were not given new deals.

Maybe his demands might have come down now after a year sponging money abroad, but I still reckon they will be high for a club like ours.
If they feel he will be an asset, even if just a bit part asset.. then go for it. I just feel for the money he would be getting from us it seems a bad deal for us.

He’s too old, a waste of a wage and he didn’t pull up any trees last time, so I highly doubt he will now he’s two years older.

Please let us get another wide man in.

When Aaron Lennon was last here, he was so good he managed 4 league starts in his final season.

Unless he has Benjamin Button qualities to him, it’s hard to see his potential signing as anything other then a retrograde step for us.

Local cricketer wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:16 pm

75 thousand a week in Turkey and was also offered 75 thousand a week in the Middle East. He isn’t coming here for a packet of chocolate buttons. All on the manager is this and nothing to do with Pace

Well! if we're committing to spending those wages on a 34 year old bit part player at the behest of SD, then yes I'll be in total agreement with you.

It was bad enough that we got landed with Dale Stephens last summer, who's been about as useful as a chocolate teapot, and is also on a large salary.

As I say if AL can attract that kind of money abroad, then good luck to him, but no way should Burnley be even contemplating offering him anything like those eye-watering sums, we already have plenty of experience in our squad, what we're crying out for is some pace.

At the risk of boring people I'll repeat yet again, Jed Wallace at Millwall who scored today, should be within our budget in terms of both fees and wages, he's out of contract in 2022, so if we have any spare change hiding down the back of the sofa I'd far rather we stretched ourselves to bring him in, at best Lennon is a stop gap for a year, and we'll find ourselves in an even bigger hole next season. plus he has zero sell on value, now not every purchase has to have that, Bardsley & Pieters are prime examples, but we do need to try and ensure we have a balanced squad of aged pros, but also some youth and drive, as it stands we're in grave danger of being left with a bunch of over 30's who won't get any better, and in some cases are now in decline.

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:18 pm

Dyche can't help himself.

Can't cope with the owners buying young players with potential so has to even it out by bringing old experienced players in.

Shambles at the minute, let's hope the next 2 weeks improve it.

And which young players were the owners bringing in that he couldn’t cope with?

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:31 pm

Well! if we're committing to spending those wages on a 34 year old bit part player at the behest of SD, then yes I'll be in total agreement with you.

It was bad enough that we got landed with Dale Stephens last summer, who's been about as useful as a chocolate teapot, and is also on a large salary.

As I say if AL can attract that kind of money abroad, then good luck to him, but no way should Burnley be even contemplating offering him anything like those eye-watering sums, we already have plenty of experience in our squad, what we're crying out for is some pace.

At the risk of boring people I'll repeat yet again, Jed Wallace at Millwall who scored today, should be within our budget in terms of both fees and wages, he's out of contract in 2022, so if we have any spare change hiding down the back of the sofa I'd far rather we stretched ourselves to bring him in, at best Lennon is a stop gap for a year, and we'll find ourselves in an even bigger hole next season. plus he has zero sell on value, now not every purchase has to have that, Bardsley & Pieters are prime examples, but we do need to try and ensure we have a balanced squad of aged pros, but also some youth and drive, as it stands we're in grave danger of being left with a bunch of over 30's who won't get any better, and in some cases are now in decline.

You keep banging on about Jed Wallace? What have you seen from him that suddenly makes him a premier league at the age off 27? I’ve never seen him play but makes me wonder why he is still slumming it at the bottom end of the championship

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:11 pm

Whatever sky might have said, he did not decline playing at Man City.

So SD left him out? He was under contract at the time.

fidelcastro wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:12 pm

If he signs, then those claiming he was only here to get fit and have somewhere to train are going to look rather silly!

I don't think they will. They just repeated the club message.

He’s got a 1 year deal some time next week written all over him.

It’ll be a good signing when you consider we operate under a self-imposed transfer embargo.

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:39 pm

So SD left him out? He was under contract at the time.

Yes he did - along with Hart, Bardsley and Hendrick.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:56 pm

No - not at all. Dyche made that decision.

And now wants to re-sign him , well that makes no sense whatsoever.

Regardless of who wants Lennon, all I want to add is Give Pace a chance.

Does he want to sign him though? As far as we are told, he's just here for fitness.

The playing in our last friendly today, a home one infront of fans... makes me worry that we will be in for him though.

joey13 wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:40 pm

And now wants to re-sign him , well that makes no sense whatsoever.

He hasn’t said he wants to re-sign him but neither has he said he doesn’t. He has said that he didn’t want to lose him. Dyche was doing no more that night than publicly stepping up his argument with Garlick.

If there is no-one else, then Lennon is better than Glennon.

We are short across midfield, however, we have Gudmundsson with Brownhill able to cover and Jay Rodriguez is very capable of playing wide.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:43 pm

He hasn’t said he wants to re-sign him but neither has he said he doesn’t. He has said that he didn’t want to lose him. Dyche was doing no more that night than publicly stepping up his argument with Garlick.

Dyche cannot be defended if we re-sign Lennon. Would be beyond embarrassing and confirm what a lot of fans suspect about our transfer dealings.