• Alan Pace relaxed on transfer window and Dyche contract

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:36 pm**

Comments in the Athletic

“We love Sean to death. We want Sean to be here for a long time,” said Pace. “If it was up to me, I’d write a contract for 10 years, I don’t have a problem.”

“I am (relaxed), I was probably less relaxed when we came in, from a worrying perspective, I can be a little anxious and impatient, that's my nature — I’d like everything done yesterday.”

“It is still a priority, but I wouldn't put it as the number one priority — the window is for now,” said Pace.

“I don't think people understand it's not necessarily just documenting stuff and making it work, when you start talking about long periods of time but just think about when you're trying to get a mortgage, it's a little bit more difficult than renting a place for two weeks, and it's an Airbnb!

“We also have collectively identified there are other priorities, because we are very comfortable with one another, I think, and we have a good thing working together.”

https://bit.ly/2U7PKvF

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:42 pm**

Hope they are equally relaxed about finalising deals for our transfer targets!

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:48 pm**

Sounds a lot more relaxed than I am at the moment.

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:51 pm**

He's not actually said anything

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:58 pm**

I can't see anything wrong with that and seems to be a decent communication. He explains that they are aware of the anxiety around Dyche and his contract and the need to sort it out asap, however the priority is the transfer window and getting bodies in. Pretty much what I wanted to hear. I don't expect him to tell us who they are after or what the exact budget is, it's a communication which says they are on with it. Seems fair enough to me. Like everyone I am frustrated and really want to see quality coming into the FIRST TEAM, guess we have to be patient.

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:03 pm**

I’m all reet too………….looking forward to Saturday.

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:10 pm**

Quite rightly (in my opinion) sees the number one priority as this transfer window.

Hopefully there will be some positive news on that subject soon.

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:12 pm**

He's always been good at talking.

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:16 pm**

He started at 2 years of age and not shut up since

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:55 pm**

This is exactly what we need from AP. I suggested yesterday that he should communicate more with fans , on serious issues such as how we are faring on recruitment , particularly as he had personally months ago pledged support to SD. One or two on here quite quick to shoot me down. It just gives us that bit of hope for the future and helps retain that positivity

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:07 pm**

“Go by what I do, not what I say''

Good words, still doesn't mask over the glaring deficiencies in the playing squad of which ALK is entirely responsible.

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:13 pm**

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:07 pm
“Go by what I do, not what I say''

Good words, still doesn't mask over the glaring deficiencies in the playing squad of which ALK is entirely responsible.

They are responsible for four years worth of inadequate recruitment?

Crumbs.

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:17 pm**

A good window will convince Dyche more to stay, the two go hand in hand.

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:18 pm**

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:07 pm
“Go by what I do, not what I say''

Good words, still doesn't mask over the glaring deficiencies in the playing squad of which ALK is entirely responsible.

“Entirely responsible” is surely forgetting the previous windows that have left us short. Yes, we need signings now, but this in part is due to us not doing enough previously.

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:20 pm**

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:07 pm
“Go by what I do, not what I say''

Good words, still doesn't mask over the glaring deficiencies in the playing squad of which ALK is entirely responsible.

This is their first opportunity to address matters-lets now cut them some time and judge them on 1 September

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:20 pm**

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:07 pm
“Go by what I do, not what I say''

Good words, still doesn't mask over the glaring deficiencies in the playing squad of which ALK is entirely responsible.

Entirely responsible for no invest in players for 3 years? Crikey.

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:23 pm**

DCWat wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:18 pm
“Entirely responsible” is surely forgetting the previous windows that have left us short. Yes, we need signings now, but this in part is due to us not doing enough previously.

Ur 100% correct, I worded it wrong

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:24 pm**

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:20 pm
This is their first opportunity to address matters-lets now cut them some time and judge them on 1 September

I haven't lost hope or pushed the panic button just yet, I'll definitely judge after the window has closed but we've definitely heard that line before.

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:28 pm**

I love dyche. Think he’s been great for us. But I’m far less anxious about his contract than I am about his signings or lack of.

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:28 pm**

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Bloody hell, some clubs like magnets for investment

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:29 pm**

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:55 pm
This is exactly what we need from AP. I suggested yesterday that he should communicate more with fans , on serious issues such as how we are faring on recruitment , particularly as he had personally months ago pledged support to SD. One or two on here quite quick to shoot me down. It just gives us that bit of hope for the future and helps retain that positivity

He was in the club shop Saturday mingling with fans. No complaints about Alan pace at all from me.

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:29 pm**

Of course he’s relaxed. It still hasn’t cost them anything.

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:42 pm**

He didn’t get where he is today by not actually saying anything

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:07 pm**

Socrates wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:13 pm
They are responsible for four years worth of inadequate recruitment?

Crumbs.

I don't say crumbs enough. I'm going to say it all day Tomorrow at work.
Thank you

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:10 pm**

BurnleyFC wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:29 pm
Of course he’s relaxed. It still hasn’t cost them anything.

It will if we're relegated.

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:11 pm**

I wouldn't like to be waiting for a bus with some of you lot !

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:13 pm**

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:29 pm
He was in the club shop Saturday mingling with fans. No complaints about Alan pace at all from me.

Pretty sure he walked past me and my daughterboutside the ticket office on Thursday. Was dressed very casual and went in the BL main entrance.

Was on his phone talking very quietly so couldn't hear his voice or ask if it was him.

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:37 pm**

JTClaret wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:51 pm
He's not actually said anything

Yup that just about sums it up.

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:20 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:36 pm
Comments in the Athletic

“We love Sean to death. We want Sean to be here for a long time,” said Pace. “If it was up to me, I’d write a contract for 10 years, I don’t have a problem.”

“I am (relaxed), I was probably less relaxed when we came in, from a worrying perspective, I can be a little anxious and impatient, that's my nature — I’d like everything done yesterday.”

“It is still a priority, but I wouldn't put it as the number one priority — the window is for now,” said Pace.

“I don't think people understand it's not necessarily just documenting stuff and making it work, when you start talking about long periods of time but just think about when you're trying to get a mortgage, it's a little bit more difficult than renting a place for two weeks, and it's an Airbnb!

“We also have collectively identified there are other priorities, because we are very comfortable with one another, I think, and we have a good thing working together.”

https://bit.ly/2U7PKvF

This makes it very clear to me that the recruitment is clearly linked to Dyche and his team remaining at BFC.

I hold true my thoughts that we will go down, and we will lose Dyche.

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:31 pm**

Just Words.

So Far. Little Action.

Going Backwards at the moment.

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:51 pm**

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:11 pm
I wouldn't like to be waiting for a bus with some of you lot !

Do you know something about the bus shelters, by any chance?

Posted: **Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:54 pm**

Claret_tinted wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:20 pm
This makes it very clear to me that the recruitment is clearly linked to Dyche and his team remaining at BFC.

I hold true my thoughts that we will go down, and we will lose Dyche.

Are you suggesting Sean Dyche is frustrating the recruitment because he wants to leave?

Or, are you just reading everything wrongly?

UTC

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:06 am**

Claret_tinted wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:20 pm
This makes it very clear to me that the recruitment is clearly linked to Dyche and his team remaining at BFC.

I hold true my thoughts that we will go down, and we will lose Dyche.

You sound like the captain of a boat who has just smashed into an iceberg.

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:51 am**

Paul Waine wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:51 pm
Do you know something about the bus shelters, by any chance?

fortunately I read the thread otherwise that would have gone straight over my head ! Good effort

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:38 am**

You can read it 3 ways. 1st it's just generic drivel and doesn't amount to anything. 2nd is that it's good he's placing the transfer window above it with priorities. 3rd it's bad that he's so relaxed and is trusting in Dyche when if things go tits up and he gets a good offer he'll be off with no compensation.

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:22 am**

Waffle action speaks louder than words
Have a nice day UTC

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:28 am**

Tall Paul wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:10 pm
It will if we're relegated.

Alan said, in one of his early interviews, that he would not be that worried if we were relegated as far as his plan for the future is concerned

In Alan we trust

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:04 am**

jojomk1 wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:28 am
Alan said, in one of his early interviews, that he would not be that worried if we were relegated as far as his plan for the future is concerned

In Alan we trust

I'm concerned about the financial structure of the club and I struggle to see how we aren't worse off, but only time will tell.

But let's not misrepresent what Pace said. He didn't say he wouldn't be worried if we were relegated.

His words were something like: "it's important but not essential we stay in the PL."

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:20 am**

Maybe Alan Pace is trying to portray the classic swan metaphor, calm and graceful on the surface whilst great activity is occurring out of sight. I hope this true but worry that his team have done more learning about the business than making realistic progress. I would also hope that he sees the seriousness of the situation and is not over relying on Dyche, for without meaningful progress I feel we are placing our premier league status in jeopardy.

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:04 am**

superdimitri wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:38 am
You can read it 3 ways. 1st it's just generic drivel and doesn't amount to anything. 2nd is that it's good he's placing the transfer window above it with priorities. 3rd it's bad that he's so relaxed and is trusting in Dyche when if things go tits up and he gets a good offer he'll be off with no compensation.

Didn't Dyche do an interview last week saying that he has not had a thirst for leaving, despite being linked with vacant positions and that he is part way through the project at Burnley? Or words to that effect. Add to that AP being relaxed about the contract issue suggests there is not much to worry or moan about.

Or am i reading it wrong?

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:07 am**

Herts Clarets wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:04 am
Didn't Dyche do an interview last week saying that he has not had a thirst for leaving, despite being linked with vacant positions and that he is part way through the project at Burnley? Or words to that effect. Add to that AP being relaxed about the contract issue suggests there is not much to worry or moan about.

Or am i reading it wrong?

He's always been committed, up until things faltered with the old board that is.
But this is now, and not the future. Everything's fine and dandy pre season but a run of bad games and some squeaky bum time and that inevitable vacancy elsewhere will be more appealing. It happened with our last owners so it can certainly happen again.

Dyche will know it's in his benefit anyway since his job security is basically untouchable. If he doesn't sign anything then he'll know other clubs who want him won't be put off by the hefty compensation.

I personally feel positive, but I'm just illustrating there's lots of different ways you can interpret the comments.

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:15 am**

Claret_tinted wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:20 pm
This makes it very clear to me that the recruitment is clearly linked to Dyche and his team remaining at BFC.

I hold true my thoughts that we will go down, and we will lose Dyche.

How to turn a positive into a negative. Those long winter nights in your household must simply fly by.

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:18 am**

Paul Waine wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:54 pm
Are you suggesting Sean Dyche is frustrating the recruitment because he wants to leave?

Or, are you just reading everything wrongly?

UTC

I’m saying that Dyche was ready to walk about transfers and funding, the new ownership have sat with him and agreed a budget and plans.

Dyche is yet to be convinced these plans are coming to and therefore is ready to leave.

I think people underestimate how ambitious Dyche and his back room team are. They’re heavily invested in their careers.

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:40 am**

Claret_tinted wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:18 am
I’m saying that Dyche was ready to walk about transfers and funding, the new ownership have sat with him and agreed a budget and plans.

Dyche is yet to be convinced these plans are coming to and therefore is ready to leave.

I think people underestimate how ambitious Dyche and his back room team are. They’re heavily invested in their careers.

Would he have left without another job lined up though?

He'd have gone from around £3.5 million per annum to zero. Not many are prepared to do that.

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:53 am**

Spijed wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:40 am
Would he have left without another job lined up though?

He'd have gone from around £3.5 million per annum to zero. Not many are prepared to do that.

I think, like many managers, you plan for periods of inactivity.

Dyche knows his stock is high, he knows there’s going to be jobs coming up. He has a fallout position of no backing/funds.

Dyche has to move in the next season or two to take that next step. I think it’ll be Villa, Wolves or Leicester.

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:05 am**

I think the article paints a pretty positive image of the the behind the scenes situation at the club. Everyone seems to be agreed in the club's direction.
I'd like to think we are going to spend the next few years really developing potential in younger players, to sell on and replace with more potential. That is what most of us have wanted the club to do. That kind of thing doesn't just happen overnight, they seem to be building new foundations for that to happen. I would imagine there has been a lot of discussion about what is/isn't working behind the scenes currently and AP has been proactive in freshening things up.
I am certain that we will see some fresh players arrive, but it will probably not happen until the end of the month, which is frustrating, but we know the limitations.

All of this goes out of the window if we get beat on Saturday!!

UTC

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:17 am**

superdimitri wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:07 am
He's always been committed, up until things faltered with the old board that is.
But this is now, and not the future. Everything's fine and dandy pre season but a run of bad games and some squeaky bum time and that inevitable vacancy elsewhere will be more appealing. It happened with our last owners so it can certainly happen again.

Dyche will know it's in his benefit anyway since his job security is basically untouchable. If he doesn't sign anything then he'll know other clubs who want him won't be put off by the hefty compensation.

I personally feel positive, but I'm just illustrating there's lots of different ways you can interpret the comments.

Nobody took him after we twice finished in the top 10 and he was open to leaving, why would anyone take him if we're down the bottom end?

Since Dyche took over, only 2 teams in the top 5 English leagues haven't changed their manager at least once.

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:19 am**

I can't see Villa, Wolves or Leicester fans being happy with Dyche. A lot of fans of other teams think we play crap football which is why he'd struggle to get a better team now. Dyche has shown that he can win promotion and keep a side in the division. West Brom or Forest might be more likely destinations if he lets his contract run down but I'm not sure that scenario really fits with his ambitions.

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:02 am**

dibraidio wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:19 am
I can't see Villa, Wolves or Leicester fans being happy with Dyche. A lot of fans of other teams think we play crap football which is why he'd struggle to get a better team now. Dyche has shown that he can win promotion and keep a side in the division. West Brom or Forest might be more likely destinations if he lets his contract run down but I'm not sure that scenario really fits with his ambitions.

Spot on. I think he would already be gone if any of those clubs were an option. Certainly, I think Forest would be a huge pull for him, and clubs similar in size would be a draw too, however I do feel he would give it a thought only if we were relegated.

I honestly don't believe he feels he is done here just yet.

Posted: **Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:19 pm**

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:17 am
Nobody took him after we twice finished in the top 10 and he was open to leaving, why would anyone take him if we're down the bottom end?

Since Dyche took over, only 2 teams in the top 5 English leagues haven't changed their manager at least once.

This just illustrates my point more. If he doesn't have much interest then (which I think he probably did actually) then running a contract low only opens up his options more. Clubs are not going to want to pay compensation like they would have had to when we finished higher and Dyche was under a longer contract.

That's why him signing now is important, because it makes sure if he does go we get some compensation.

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