Just watched this docudrama again (its on BBC i-player).... 52 years ago this week

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0006p5f

Before they start on outer space it might be a better idea to get more things put right here on earth first, just my two pennies worth.

Peter Loo wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:09 pm

Before they start on outer space it might be a better idea to get more things put right here on earth first, just my two pennies worth.

Bit late mate, it was 52 years ago.

martin_p wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:13 pm

Bit late mate, it was 52 years ago.

Sentiments just the same squire.

Peter Loo wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:15 pm

Sentiments just the same squire.

Squire.....

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:19 pm

Just watched this docudrama again (its on BBC i-player).... 52 years ago this week

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0006p5f

Yes, watched it. Definitely added something to a well known story. Really got across the personal amazement of the astronauts at what they were doing and seeing in the moment.

A bit concerning that mankind’s greatest achievement was 52 years ago. Just sort of been waiting to extinguish ourselves ever since.

tim_noone wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:17 pm

Squire.....

Peter Loo wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:09 pm

Before they start on outer space it might be a better idea to get more things put right here on earth first, just my two pennies worth.

Single planet species are destined to become extinct.
We either leave the Earth or follow the path of the dinosaurs.
It's just a question of time.

Eagle's on board computer had a ferrite core memory. Hand made by stitching copper wire through tiny round polo- mint shaped magnetic cores.
None of this silicon chip stuff.

No ctrl-alt-del keys.

How the hell did they manage then!

International class wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:35 am

No ctrl-alt-del keys.

How the hell did they manage then!

You don’t really want to be ctrl-alt-del-ing in the middle of space anyway!

martin_p wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:01 am

You don’t really want to be ctrl-alt-del-ing in the middle of space anyway!

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Compelling viewing - though I'm not sure the depiction of Armstrong was completely accurate.

Fascinating fact - because they were behind the schedule on the lunar surface they didn't have time to transfer the camera from Armstrong to Aldrin which is why there are no (decent) photographs of Armstrong on the moon.

Incredible what they had to (be the first to) do, with the technology available. They must have been prepared to die.

gawthorpe_view wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:17 am

Single planet species are destined to become extinct.
We either leave the Earth or follow the path of the dinosaurs.
It's just a question of time.

Is that right, and who told you that

Also a waste of valuable resources at a time when the climate emergency was then and is now all our responsibilities to engage in if we care a fig about the next generations.

Whilst I have some empathy with the sentiment, I don't believe that space science and earth sustainability form a zero sum game.
Space/lunar exploration is a hotbed of research, creates employment and pushes boundaries of thinking.
If anything, one would hope that our efforts to think beyond our own horizons progress our sustainability thinking.

Peter Loo wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:30 am

Is that right, and who told you that

Some Dino down the pub, I think he was Italian.

gawthorpe_view wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:17 am

Single planet species are destined to become extinct.
We either leave the Earth or follow the path of the dinosaurs.
It's just a question of time.

Whilst true it's a typical flippant quote that doesn't really mean that much.

There don't seem to be any multi planet species despite the rumours.

Dinosaurs (not one species of course) survived about 165 million years and were rather unlucky to become extinct.

We humans have been around 300,000 years and human species generally maybe two million years. Civilisation perhaps 6,000 years and this was only possible after the last ice age receded. Only in the last sixty years (starting with Sputnik) have we been in space.

Our situation, as is that of any species, is reliant on luck because of the vagaries of geology, space, the sun etc.. On top of that we have caused so much environmental damage that we look like altering the major factors (ocean currents, jet stream behaviour, winds, temperature etc.), that have given us the climate stability and food supply that allowed us to develop.

Despite our species name (it means wise human) we're really pretty stupid!

tim_noone wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:17 pm

Squire.....

I think he thinks he is Eric Idle ...

https://youtu.be/4Kwh3R0YjuQ

He isn't ... he is just Idle

Not so much a "waste of money" as an expensive feat that showed what could be done when a nation puts its mind to it.
Without it, the things we take for granted in our everyday lives may not have been available today. The Internet stemmed from the DARPA funding, miniaturisation and microelectronics developments have given us things like Mobile Phones. So without the space race, the things we have now may not have been available for several decades into the future.

Yes and the result after all that is the Climate Emergency.