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Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:52 am
by gtclaret
Reported at £2.5m,thats incredible

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:53 am
by claretonthecoast1882
Swansea need money and his contract was running out

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:12 am
by Froobs
Did he have a medical?
Hes out injured

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:42 am
by warksclaret
Swansea are desperate for cash and they were listen to offers for several players in the same circumstances-ie out of contract . Matt Grimes being another

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:44 am
by Newcastleclaret93
I think the better question is why was Cornet so cheap?

24 years old
Champions league pedigree
67 goal contributions from 200 odd games in one of the top 5 leagues in Europe.
For a reported £12.8m fee is a fantastic bit of business.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:51 am
by Burnley1989
gtclaret wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:52 am
Reported at £2.5m,thats incredible
He’s 2nd hand

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:51 am
by Woodleyclaret
Another more pertinent question is why do Arsenal spend millions on dross like Pepe
£72M LOL

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:55 am
by RVclaret
Created the second most chances in the Championship behind Buendia who went for £30m this summer. Roberts is going to be a cracking player for us I sense. I’d imagine we might not see him for a month or two yet though.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:13 am
by GodIsADeeJay81
Swansea skint
12mths left on his contract.

Job done, minimal fuss, club should be applauded for that one.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:13 am
by GodIsADeeJay81
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:44 am
I think the better question is why was Cornet so cheap?

24 years old
Champions league pedigree
67 goal contributions from 200 odd games in one of the top 5 leagues in Europe.
For a reported £12.8m fee is a fantastic bit of business.
French football is on its arse financially

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:18 am
by warksclaret
RVclaret wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:55 am
Created the second most chances in the Championship behind Buendia who went for £30m this summer. Roberts is going to be a cracking player for us I sense. I’d imagine we might not see him for a month or two yet though.
Thats impressive-suggests to me he is good at getting to the byline on the right and getting the ball into the penalty area.Something we have sadly lacked for a few years.For tough away games can see us going 451, with Cornet, Brownhill, Westwood, Roberts in midfield and McNeil playing behind Wood. We played it a lot the year we finished 7th with either Defour or Hendrick playing behind Wood

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:21 am
by RVclaret
warksclaret wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:18 am
Thats impressive-suggests to me he is good at getting to the byline on the right and getting the ball into the penalty area.Something we have sadly lacked for a few years.For tough away games can see us going 451, with Cornet, Brownhill, Westwood, Roberts in midfield and McNeil playing behind Wood. We played it a lot the year we finished 7th with either Defour or Hendrick playing behind Wood
Yes he is someone who bombs up and down the right and enjoys getting to the byline to whip crosses in. Agree with the 4-4-1-1 which is something I’d also like to see tried now we have the options available.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:37 am
by jdrobbo
Roberts was a player I wanted and I was surprised that his fee was quite as low as that, but it highlights exactly why we should still be shopping in the Championship for clever deals.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:50 am
by SalisburyClaret
On the surface it’s a lot of money for a 3rd choice right back for this season. He can play right midfield though and I think that’s where he’ll get his opportunities this year

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:58 am
by warksclaret
jdrobbo wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:37 am
Roberts was a player I wanted and I was surprised that his fee was quite as low as that, but it highlights exactly why we should still be shopping in the Championship for clever deals.
Westwood, Brownhill, Cork, Pope, Taylor, Wood, Barnes, Pieters,JBG, Bardsley-I believe all were from the Championship and provided good service and good value to our club

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:19 am
by RicardoMontalban
SalisburyClaret wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:50 am
On the surface it’s a lot of money for a 3rd choice right back for this season. He can play right midfield though and I think that’s where he’ll get his opportunities this year
I think Cornet will play RM, but I’d be astonished if Roberts is 3rd choice RB, even now. Think he’ll get his chance soon enough.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:35 am
by Tall Paul
SalisburyClaret wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:50 am
On the surface it’s a lot of money for a 3rd choice right back for this season. He can play right midfield though and I think that’s where he’ll get his opportunities this year
Doubt he'll be third choice.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:36 am
by Iloveyoubrady
I think that’s one thing the new owners have done well. Obviously a lot of thought and negotiations gone into getting cornet for £13 million and Roberts for £2.5 million. Gives us a very good chance of making money on them down the line. Between them £15.5m is great business. I can’t wait to see them play which is more than I have said about a new signing for years.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:50 am
by warksclaret
Tall Paul wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:35 am
Doubt he'll be third choice.
SD is very loyal, but the minute Lowts is injured or misses a game he will get his chance. Then he will probably take some moving and make it his position. Of course he might also play RM

Another option could be
Collins Tarks Mee
Roberts Westwood McNeil Brownhill Taylor
Wood Cornet

That would be some team

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:03 am
by Bullabill
Wouldn't need a goalkeeper!

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:08 am
by warksclaret
Bullabill wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:03 am
Wouldn't need a goalkeeper!
Not with that team

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:20 am
by NewClaret
This window has certainly proved that we're able to recruit good talent at reasonable prices, although we likely can't chose the timing (doubt we'd really have considered a RB priority this window but you have to take the opportunities when they arrive).

Bit of a shame we couldn't land Christie, who would also have represented excellent value, but I'm not sure in playing terms he's many levels above Dwight and JBG, so perhaps not so necessary and we'll end up with better in January.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:25 am
by Spijed
NewClaret wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:20 am
This window has certainly proved that we're able to recruit good talent at reasonable prices, although we likely can't chose the timing (doubt we'd really have considered a RB priority this window but you have to take the opportunities when they arrive).

Bit of a shame we couldn't land Christie, who would also have represented excellent value, but I'm not sure in playing terms he's many levels above Dwight and JBG, so perhaps not so necessary and we'll end up with better in January.
What makes you think Christie is anywhere near the same level as Dwight McNeil?

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:35 am
by tiger76
Spijed wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:25 am
What makes you think Christie is anywhere near the same level as Dwight McNeil?
Precisely! and if Christie is so good how come no other PL teams were interested in signing him, especially considering the modest fee, he ended up at Bournemouth, which tells you a lot.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:37 am
by fidelcastro
warksclaret wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:50 am
SD is very loyal, but the minute Lowts is injured or misses a game he will get his chance. Then he will probably take some moving and make it his position. Of course he might also play RM

Another option could be
Collins Tarks Mee
Roberts Westwood McNeil Brownhill Taylor
Wood Cornet

That would be some team
Cornet up front?

I thought he was a wide player?

:?

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:42 am
by claretandy
fidelcastro wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:37 am
Cornet up front?

I thought he was a wide player?

:?
It wouldn't surprise me to see him play there, he could become our Mikael Antonio.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:43 am
by fidelcastro
claretandy wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:42 am
It wouldn't surprise me to see him play there, he could become our Mikael Antonio.
And I'll bet he doesn’t.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:44 am
by Rileybobs
fidelcastro wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:37 am
Cornet up front?

I thought he was a wide player?

:?
He was. But he’s been a Burnley player for nearly 4 days now so surely we could give him a go as a striker, or a centre back?

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:45 am
by Rileybobs
It’s funny that we’ve been crying out for this, and I quote, ‘pacy wide man’ for so long, and now we appear to have one people want to shove him into a different position.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:49 am
by fidelcastro
Rileybobs wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:45 am
It’s funny that we’ve been crying out for this, and I quote, ‘pacy wide man’ for so long, and now we appear to have one people want to shove him into a different position.
I often say it, but I'm just glad the posters on here who come up with these crackpot ideas aren't the manager.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:54 am
by Iloveyoubrady
I think he’ll obviously play on the wing where we’ve bought him to play. But I don’t think him playing up front is out of the question. He has played there before.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:55 am
by fidelcastro
Iloveyoubrady wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:54 am
I think he’ll obviously play on the wing where we’ve bought him to play. But I don’t think him playing up front is out of the question. He has played there before.
How long ago?

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:02 pm
by ClaretTony
Froobs wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:12 am
Did he have a medical?
Hes out injured
100% he had a medical - they look way beyond injuries

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:11 pm
by Jakubclaret
A combination of different reasons bringing about the transfer fee.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:14 pm
by Burnley1989
ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:02 pm
100% he had a medical - they look way beyond injuries
It’s a full MOT, usually involves going to 2-3 different places for various tests, scans etc
People would be amazed, but in most cases it’s a multi million pound asset so it’s understandable

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:19 pm
by Jakubclaret
It's quite humorous to think that 2.5m would be spent without some sort of reassurances on current health.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:21 pm
by ClaretTony
Burnley1989 wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:14 pm
It’s a full MOT, usually involves going to 2-3 different places for various tests, scans etc
People would be amazed, but in most cases it’s a multi million pound asset so it’s understandable
We saw a little bit of what's done when the club put that video out of Jonathan Walters' medical.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqIMM7mUdT4

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:50 pm
by Claret Till I Die
Hope he stays fitter than Walters did...

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:21 pm
by Gordaleman
fidelcastro wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:37 am
Cornet up front?

I thought he was a wide player?

:?
He's versatile. He's played LB, both wings and as a striker. I think he'll play RW but it wouldn't surprise me at all if he was occasionally given a striker role.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:26 pm
by fidelcastro
Gordaleman wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:21 pm
He's versatile. He's played LB, both wings and as a striker. I think he'll play RW but it wouldn't surprise me at all if he was occasionally given a striker role.
Really? Given that we already have four senior strikers, it would amaze me.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:27 pm
by Ric_C
I've been banging the drum for years that fullbacks are crucial to the way Sean Dyche sets us up. Mainly from an attacking point of view.

Say it quietly, we may have found our Trippier replacement.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:28 pm
by RVclaret
Rileybobs wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:45 am
It’s funny that we’ve been crying out for this, and I quote, ‘pacy wide man’ for so long, and now we appear to have one people want to shove him into a different position.
:lol: he's been with us less than a week and UTC posters already have him in every position possible in their starting 11's except keeper.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:32 pm
by fidelcastro
RVclaret wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:28 pm
:lol: he's been with us less than a week and UTC posters already have him in every position possible in their starting 11's except keeper.
If he really can play in all these positions, then maybe we have signed our greatest player ever... well... the best since Andy Farrell anyway ;)

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:38 pm
by Iloveyoubrady
ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:21 pm
We saw a little bit of what's done when the club put that video out of Jonathan Walters' medical.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqIMM7mUdT4
Ironic that Jon Walters was the medical we saw. He didn’t have the best time with injury problems...

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:48 pm
by Stayingup
Woodleyclaret wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:51 am
Another more pertinent question is why do Arsenal spend millions on dross like Pepe
£72M LOL
Because they are clueless.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:53 pm
by ClaretTony
Iloveyoubrady wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:38 pm
Ironic that Jon Walters was the medical we saw. He didn’t have the best time with injury problems...
Achilles injury and that can be a really bad one. Finished his career.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:02 pm
by Stayingup
Ric_C wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:27 pm
I've been banging the drum for years that fullbacks are crucial to the way Sean Dyche sets us up. Mainly from an attacking point of view.

Say it quietly, we may have found our Trippier replacement.
That would be something. If he can get forward and play off another forward player as Tripps did for example with Wallace, and cross it anywhere near Tripps quality of crosses he will become a very favourite player.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:16 pm
by NewClaret
Spijed wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:25 am
What makes you think Christie is anywhere near the same level as Dwight McNeil?
That was really my point - he’s not. Although I was meaning “as a 10”. My point was that if we want a 10 we have options internally to convert one of those two, and I’m not sure that Christie would be a level above them in his natural role to really justify signing him. Whereas if we now target that position for January, we may end up with a 10 that is a level above what we have/could convert.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:19 pm
by IanMcL
Spijed wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:25 am
What makes you think Christie is anywhere near the same level as Dwight McNeil?
Christie is a good 10.

Re: Why was Roberts so cheap

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:20 pm
by IanMcL
Roberts is returning from a groin injury.
It will be March before he is Dyche fit!