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Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:11 pm
by nyclaret
When do people think we'll see them both in the starting line-up?

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:15 pm
by tarkys_ears
When they start

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:19 pm
by Iloveyoubrady
I think we will see them off the bench soon enough but I think we’ll have to wait for a cup game or injury to see them start. Although an injury to JBG is never far away.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:20 pm
by Bosscat
When they are Dyche fit 😉

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:32 pm
by Colburn_Claret
Dyches article on Defour was very interesting.
Rather than Dyche fit, read team fit. A players needs to settle into the psyche of how the team plays, before he gets to start. I should think it will be easier for Roberts than Max, but I can understand the rationale behind it.
I expect Cornet will feature regularly from the bench before then.
The playing without the ball, is the same as Atletico under Simeone, they haven't done too badly.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:03 pm
by Spike
Is Roberts fit again wasn’t he injured when he signed?

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:06 pm
by tiger76
I'd hope Cornet would at least make the bench at Goodison. Whether he'll get on is another matter entirely, might well depend how the match is going.

Roberts is still recovering from an injury isn't he, so we may have to wait a few weeks before we see him featuring.

The positive aspect is we at long last will have viable options for the starting XI, and also the subs, both of which we've been severely lacking for a couple of seasons now.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:10 pm
by Froobs
You spend money like that on an international you bang him in from the off

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:15 pm
by PadihamThickNeck
Rochdale game my guess.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:34 pm
by ClaretTony
Froobs wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:10 pm
You spend money like that on an international you bang him in from the off
Dyche has hinted not and I'd be amazed if we saw him play at Everton. Roberts would have been closer to being ready but he's recovering from surgery although was getting close to a recall at Swansea.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:37 pm
by RVclaret
Surely he (Cornet) makes the bench for Everton seen as we are now allowed 9.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:42 pm
by AlargeClaret
I’d imagine all things well Cornet will get on sometime during the Everton game. Presuming Roberts a little longer depending on fitness ,be nice to see them both play vs Rochdale

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:46 pm
by Superjohnnyfrancis
Roberts is injured so not till October time at the earliest, probably November. Depends if Lowton is still in form i guess.

Integrating players quickly is certainly becoming an achilles heel for Dyche and changing our style to a more attractive brand of football, hoping we evolve quickly on both of those issues this season.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:47 pm
by Spijed
ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:34 pm
Dyche has hinted not and I'd be amazed if we saw him play at Everton. Roberts would have been closer to being ready but he's recovering from surgery although was getting close to a recall at Swansea.
Would you expect him to be in the squad for the Everton game or more likely Arsenal?

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:48 pm
by ClaretTony
Spijed wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:47 pm
Would you expect him to be in the squad for the Everton game or more likely Arsenal?
No idea. Maybe Rochdale.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:58 pm
by Rileybobs
AlargeClaret wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:42 pm
I’d imagine all things well Cornet will get on sometime during the Everton game. Presuming Roberts a little longer depending on fitness ,be nice to see them both play vs Rochdale
I think if all things are going well there is absolutely no chance he’ll get on against Everton.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:13 pm
by AlargeClaret
I’d be more than happy to go with that tbh

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:30 pm
by Froobs
ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:34 pm
Dyche has hinted not and I'd be amazed if we saw him play at Everton. Roberts would have been closer to being ready but he's recovering from surgery although was getting close to a recall at Swansea.
He should definitely be inluded in the matchday squad

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:46 pm
by kazza
Does Cornet need to self-isolate?

I can't see Roberts starting until Lowton either has a howler or gets a knock.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:47 pm
by gawthorpe_view
PadihamThickNeck wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:15 pm
Rochdale game my guess.
Main reason I've bought my ticket is I'm hoping to get a good look at them, plus, hopefully, Gomez-Mancini, Richardson etc.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:01 pm
by SalisburyClaret
Not before next season - unless there’s injuries to Lowton

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:05 pm
by ClaretTony
kazza wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:46 pm
Does Cornet need to self-isolate?

I can't see Roberts starting until Lowton either has a howler or gets a knock.
Don't think he does because he didn't travel to Mozambique - Roberts won't be starting, he's still coming back from surgery.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:08 pm
by Silkyskills1
Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:46 pm
Roberts is injured so not till October time at the earliest, probably November. Depends if Lowton is still in form i guess.

Probably November? He's in training, ' on the grass' as Dyche says. Why not leave it till next season for him to be fully integrated? :roll:

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:12 pm
by Boss Hogg
Think they will be eased in gradually and off the bench but I expect both will be starters before too long. Cornet won’t be content to sit in the bench. Could be a good attacking threat down the right again along with formation options now. Think both are very good signings.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:58 pm
by claretburns
Cornet will only need to quarantine if he has not been double vaccinated due to coming back from Ivory Coast which is an amber list country.

I cannot see him involved at all against Everton, maybe after 10 days or so training and settling in he could make the bench for Arsenal but Roberts won't be until Rochdale at least.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 7:38 pm
by The Enclosure
Think Roberts long throws will be a big asset for us .

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:06 pm
by Taffy on the wing
AlargeClaret wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:42 pm
I’d imagine all things well Cornet will get on sometime during the Everton game. Presuming Roberts a little longer depending on fitness ,be nice to see them both play vs Rochdale
Imagine if Cornet got injured?..........Don't think he'll play.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:12 pm
by NewClaret
The Enclosure wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 7:38 pm
Think Roberts long throws will be a big asset for us .
Agree. I think we might see him play at RW given his key passes stats and to bed him in, but those long throws will be really helpful.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:30 pm
by Superjohnnyfrancis
Silkyskills1 wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:08 pm
Probably November? He's in training, ' on the grass' as Dyche says. Why not leave it till next season for him to be fully integrated? :roll:
Brady was always on the grass, no wonder he hardly played!

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:36 pm
by AlargeClaret
I’m guessing SD will give a real time update on Roberts injury at the presser ? I’m seeing him more as a wingback in the Taylor mode for us

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:27 pm
by Stayingup
Froobs wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:10 pm
You spend money like that on an international you bang him in from the off
Like Gibson? Who was almost an international but cost a lot.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:42 pm
by Froobs
Stayingup wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:27 pm
Like Gibson? Who was almost an international but cost a lot.
Im on about cornet

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:44 pm
by Spijed
Has Cornet flown back and joined the squad yet?

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:46 pm
by ClaretTony
Stayingup wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:27 pm
Like Gibson? Who was almost an international but cost a lot.
Gibson wasn’t and isn’t an international

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:49 pm
by Iloveyoubrady
Spijed wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:44 pm
Has Cornet flown back and joined the squad yet?
I presume so. He has recently posted a “new club” video on Instagram.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:09 pm
by boatshed bill
Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:30 pm
Brady was always on the grass, no wonder he hardly played!
It's ruined many a promising career :D

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:14 am
by Sheedyclaret
6 months

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:30 am
by dansch
Froobs wrote:
Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:42 pm
Im on about cornet
It's a fair point, we spent same on Gibson

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:52 am
by Froobs
dansch wrote:
Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:30 am
It's a fair point, we spent same on Gibson
Gibsons irrelevant to me. We have tarky and mee this season he wont replace either
I want to see Cornet

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:08 am
by jedi_master
I think Dyche finds it easier to introduce wingers straight into the team compared with defenders, where mistakes are usually far more costly. There will also be so much more tactical knowledge required to play there as part of that unit (i.e, knowing when to leave for Pope, when to step up and so on). That's on top of the fact Gibson had to get in front of arguably our two best players in Mee and Tarkowski. With respect to JBG, we have been needing a new option in that position for a couple of years at least now.

If I am not mistaken Brady made one sub appearance after signing for us then started against Chelsea. I predict the same with Cornet - sub at Everton, starts against Arsenal.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:48 am
by Iloveyoubrady
jedi_master wrote:
Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:08 am
I think Dyche finds it easier to introduce wingers straight into the team compared with defenders, where mistakes are usually far more costly. There will also be so much more tactical knowledge required to play there as part of that unit (i.e, knowing when to leave for Pope, when to step up and so on). That's on top of the fact Gibson had to get in front of arguably our two best players in Mee and Tarkowski. With respect to JBG, we have been needing a new option in that position for a couple of years at least now.

If I am not mistaken Brady made one sub appearance after signing for us then started against Chelsea. I predict the same with Cornet - sub at Everton, starts against Arsenal.
That’s a good point. Our wingers aren’t required to do too much extra defensively than most clubs. The thing with cornet though is what dyche has mentioned - he’ll need to settle into a new country and area so priorities at first will be sorting a house rather than throwing him into the first team.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:56 am
by superdimitri
Depends where Cornet will sit on the Dyche scale. If he's bottom ladder like Vydra and Gibson he won't get a chance until Lennon and Gudmundsson are both injured. If he's top step like Wood he'll be straight into the team.

We're so short of wingers though I can't say it will take long, even if it does require two injuries.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:02 am
by claretonthecoast1882
superdimitri wrote:
Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:56 am
Depends where Cornet will sit on the Dyche scale. If he's bottom ladder like Vydra and Gibson he won't get a chance until Lennon and Gudmundsson are both injured. If he's top step like Wood he'll be straight into the team.

We're so short of wingers though I can't say it will take long, even if it does require two injuries.
Nonsense, but no surprise

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:16 am
by superdimitri
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:02 am
Nonsense, but no surprise
Not nonsense at all. If you can't see the players our manager prefers over others then there's no hope.. Utter nonsensical reply as usual.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:19 am
by claretonthecoast1882
superdimitri wrote:
Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:16 am
Not nonsense at all. If you can't see the players our manager prefers over others then there's no hope.
Well you named 2 players and 1 of those didn't start the last game, so yes it is nonsense. Then you do have a love of negative nonsense.

Would you like to have a wager that Cornet doesn't have to wait for injuries before getting a chance more than happy for you to set the amount.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 12:17 pm
by Iloveyoubrady
Maxwel has posted a picture of a plane window on Instagram that looks to be over some green fields. So I guess he’s just arrived in the uk. Highly unlikely he’ll feature vs Everton if he’s arriving today.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 12:21 pm
by Gordaleman
Not sure about Roberts because of his groin injury, but I think the Rochdale game might be Cornet's first game. All the more reason to attend the cup game.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 12:22 pm
by kazza
Unveiled at the Arsenal game and sneaks on the bench?

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 12:36 pm
by Boss Hogg
Will Cornet be risked in the Rochdale game ? We don’t want him hacked down like Lincoln did with JBG. I hope he doesn’t play in that game.

Re: Cornet & Roberts

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 2:52 pm
by kazza
From the Press Conference:

Burnley boss Sean Dyche on new signing Maxwel Cornet:
"Maxwell is on his way in. We'll check his fitness out and see how he's feeling. He had a bit of a dead leg but it's nothing serious."

Burnley boss Sean Dyche on new signing Cornet:
"We've got a different-minded board now, more open-minded. We want players to come in wherever they come from. Can players settle here and get used to life here? If life is settled off the pitch then they settle well on the pitch. It's a different process coming up here."