Just watched Songs Of Praise, which this week came from Pendle Hill.
Apparently, Pendle Hill is approximately 43 metres shy of being classed as a mountain.
Anyone fancy taking a few barrow loads of rocks and soil up?

Juan Tanamera wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:49 pm

Just watched Songs Of Praise, which this week came from Pendle Hill.
Apparently, Pendle Hill is approximately 43 metres shy of being classed as a mountain.
Anyone fancy taking a few barrow loads of rocks and soil up?

https://youtu.be/UpcgeuOa96A

Yeah, saw that a few years ago.

Yeah... mountains have sharp pointy tops on them (with the exceptions Tabletop and Sugarloaf) so yeah, stick the great pyramid on it and you could have it.
Ingleborough Pen-y-ghent and Wherneside are all mountain size but called hills so I dunno, bit of a grey area.

It will then become hill, hill mountain.

I was under the impression it was 610m above sea level to qualify as a mountain irrespective of shape…. that leaves Pendle 53m short by my reckoning…

And have you noticed just how much nicer it looks from the Burnley side?

bobinho wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:59 pm

I was under the impression it was 610m above sea level to qualify as a mountain irrespective of shape…. that leaves Pendle 53m short by my reckoning…

We are going to need more Wheelbarrows then

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:02 pm

We are going to need more Wheelbarrows then

There used to be a tradition many years ago to take a stone up the hill and add to a pile at the top to make it a mountain. Bit daft since when after you have thrutched your way up there are already millions of stones already up there.

bobinho wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:59 pm

I was under the impression it was 610m above sea level to qualify as a mountain irrespective of shape…. that leaves Pendle 53m short by my reckoning…

You need to consider climate change too, and the rising sea levels…

Originally called Penhul which means hill hill, so now Pendle Hill is hill hill hill. It will always be a hill.

Chobulous wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:50 pm

Originally called Penhul which means hill hill, so now Pendle Hill is hill hill hill. It will always be a hill.

Bit like River Avon = River River
Sahara Desert = Desert Desert

morpheus2 wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:55 pm

Yeah... mountains have sharp pointy tops on them (with the exceptions Tabletop and Sugarloaf) so yeah, stick the great pyramid on it and you could have it.
Ingleborough Pen-y-ghent and Wherneside are all mountain size but called hills so I dunno, bit of a grey area.

I do the 3 peaks almost every year and did Pen-Y -Ghent two weeks ago. All 3 are mountains and I have never seen them called hills in my climbing and walking books and magazines.

Pointed peaks are the exception on most mountains in the uk, but even though the highest is only 4400 feet, some of them are very difficult in normal conditions and outright dangerous in poor conditions.

I was caught out in a blizzard on Snowden a few years ago, and Allan Hinkes, the only English man to climb all 14 of the 8000mtr peaks almost died on Cat Bells in the lakes in a blizzard. Cat Bells is used as an introductory peak for beginners!

bobinho wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:59 pm

I was under the impression it was 610m above sea level to qualify as a mountain irrespective of shape…. that leaves Pendle 53m short by my reckoning…

What if you already live 1100m above sea level and it’s flat like a desert

CharlieinNewMexico wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:58 pm

What if you already live 1100m above sea level and it’s flat like a desert

You live on top of a mountain desert!

Siddo wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:24 pm

I do the 3 peaks almost every year and did Pen-Y -Ghent two weeks ago. All 3 are mountains and I have never seen them called hills in my climbing and walking books and magazines.

Pointed peaks are the exception on most mountains in the uk, but even though the highest is only 4400 feet, some of them are very difficult in normal conditions and outright dangerous in poor conditions.

I was caught out in a blizzard on Snowden a few years ago, and Allan Hinkes, the only English man to climb all 14 of the 8000mtr peaks almost died on Cat Bells in the lakes in a blizzard. Cat Bells is used as an introductory peak for beginners!

Technically all 3 are mountains because the elevation threshold is surpassed, the smallest 1 penyghent is often referred to as a fell or hill, regarding Pendle boulsworth is a far nicer climb.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:25 pm

Technically all 3 are mountains because the elevation threshold is surpassed, the smallest 1 penyghent is often referred to as a fell or hill, regarding Pendle boulsworth is a far nicer climb.

Pen-Y-Ghent is a mountain mate. Anything over 2000ft is a mountain. Not sure where you are getting your information from?

Siddo wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:32 pm

Pen-Y-Ghent is a mountain mate. Anything over 2000ft is a mountain. Not sure where you are getting your information from?

I said technically all 3 are mountains did you miss that part?

The mountains are calling and I must go.In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks.The clearest way into the Universe is through a forest wilderness.

John Muir

Siddo wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:32 pm

Pen-Y-Ghent is a mountain mate. Anything over 2000ft is a mountain. Not sure where you are getting your information from?

Did you not actually read Jacubs post before posting Siddo ... go back to stalking Steve1956

Knockhill race circuit in Scotland is hill hill and, of course, there is only one lake in the lake district. Anybody that says Lake Windermere needs a slap. It is Windermere, mere means lake.

I like a walk up Hambledon, great walks around the abandoned quaries then over the plateau to the trig point great views over the rossendale fells and towards Greater Manchester.

Pendle Hill is actually hill hill hill. On this theme, Lake Chad in the country of Chad is Lake Lake.

Will never happen due to the protected mole colony at the Sabden side, apparently you can’t make a mountain out of a mole hill!…. I’ll get my coat.

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:15 pm

You live on top of a mountain desert!

It’s true! Our area is known as High Desert. But then there are “mountains” just off to the East that are another 500m tall. Are they mountainous mountains? To us in the valley they only look as big as Pendle Hill

Juan Tanamera wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:49 pm

Just watched Songs Of Praise, which this week came from Pendle Hill.
Apparently, Pendle Hill is approximately 43 metres shy of being classed as a mountain.
Anyone fancy taking a few barrow loads of rocks and soil up?

Maybe a few will want to get down to Oxford Street before (or after) one of our London games and borrow the plans they used to build the Oxford Street Massif? (Or, was that Staines-upon-Thames)?

UTC

bfcjg wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:11 pm

I like a walk up Hambledon, great walks around the abandoned quaries then over the plateau to the trig point great views over the rossendale fells and towards Greater Manchester.

Great walk. Used to be up there a lot in the 60s, a long time before they cut through the back to put in a road.

Pendle Mountain just doesn't sound right - I'll stick with Hill I think.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:04 am

Pendle Mountain just doesn't sound right - I'll stick with Hill I think.

Mount Pendle doesn’t sound too bad though

When I was growing up, (Along time ago.) I was told that the Americans wanted to build an airfield on top of Pendle during the war. Anyone know anything about that?

Pendle Mountain is in the Great Dividing Range of New South Wales by the way. https://www.mindat.org/feature-8167440.html

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:07 am

Mount Pendle doesn’t sound too bad though

That sounds better

Wonder how much time/work it would be to take a sufficient number of bags of sand and cement and slowly build a column up there?

You'd need decent foundations, but the water wouldn't be a problem as long as you had a big enough tarp and some water butts

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:04 am

Pendle Mountain just doesn't sound right - I'll stick with Hill I think.

Sounds like a fairground ride at TownleyLand

Siddo wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:24 pm

I do the 3 peaks almost every year and did Pen-Y -Ghent two weeks ago. All 3 are mountains and I have never seen them called hills in my climbing and walking books and magazines.

Pointed peaks are the exception on most mountains in the uk, but even though the highest is only 4400 feet, some of them are very difficult in normal conditions and outright dangerous in poor conditions.

I was caught out in a blizzard on Snowden a few years ago, and Allan Hinkes, the only English man to climb all 14 of the 8000mtr peaks almost died on Cat Bells in the lakes in a blizzard. Cat Bells is used as an introductory peak for beginners!

Many many years we were youth hosteling in Wales at Easter time. We left Snowdon Ranger hostel in bright sunshine to take the zigzag track up to the rail line. The weather changed dramatically and it was thick mist from the line to the summit with rain and wind thrown in to boot. We, and everyone else up there, had to be guided off and I seem to remember a very narrow ledge involved. Glad I couldn’t see down

Sounds like they took you off via Crib Goch, which seems an odd thing to do given the circumstances.

Siddo wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:32 pm

...Anything over 2000ft is a mountain...

I think the threshold depends which country you're in. That said, I'm sure that UK 'mountains' used to begin at 3000'? Have I misremembered, or has the requirement perhaps been lowered - like in so many areas in life - to avoid offending/discriminating against/putting too much peer-pressure on hills?

I wonder where the film crew parked their cars whilst filming up pendle.

karatekid wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 13, 2021 3:23 pm

I wonder where the film crew parked their cars whilst filming up pendle.

Barley

Came across this on wiki.
This is a list of P600 mountains in Britain and Ireland by height. A P600 is defined as a mountain with a topographic prominence above 600 m (1,969 ft), regardless of elevation or any other merits (e.g. topographic isolation); this is a similar approach to that of the Marilyn, Simms, HuMP and TuMP British Isle mountain and hill classifications.

Had a couple of laps last night to support a lad who walked Pendle Hill for 48hrs straight, ending this morning at 10am for charity. Scott walked the equivalent of Mt Everest up and down...then some.

Thought it was an achievement when they did it for 24hrs last year but 48hrs!

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/scott-pickles-1

I don't know about increasing the height so it can become a mountain. This morning it looks as though it is being lowered with the top disappearing.

Juan Tanamera wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:49 pm

Just watched Songs Of Praise, which this week came from Pendle Hill.
Apparently, Pendle Hill is approximately 43 metres shy of being classed as a mountain.
Anyone fancy taking a few barrow loads of rocks and soil up?

That’s surprised me Mick. I thought it was only about 15 metres. By the way went to the top of Rivington Pike again at weekend (quite a climb) and the view was, as always, amazing. I could see the sea, Cheshire, Blackpool Tower and something in the far distance that could have been north Wales. Wonderful.

We had a question in Friday nights quiz...
On a clear day whats the furthest thing you can see from the top of Mt Snowden on a clear day.

The answer was ... The Sun ...

Got to be careful of adding anything to raise the height the extra weight could collapse the Sabden treacle mines.

Volvoclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:05 pm

Got to be careful of adding anything to raise the height the extra weight could collapse the Sabden treacle mines.

Has the work not been completed on the mines to ensure that they would be safe no matter what happened to Pendle?

No, supposed to be filled in by spare jam buys from Notty Ash but lazy scousers failed to turn up
Klopp said it was too dangerous

I’m pretty sure the stabilisation work has been completed. In fact, there is evidence that the Treacle People have found a new vein of treacle under Pendle. I saw evidence of recent mine excavations, behind a stand of liquorice trees above Sabden.

1) What is a mountain? (I presume something to do with height as per the OP)

2) Do we have any in England?

tarkys_ears wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:03 pm

1) What is a mountain? (I presume something to do with height as per the OP)

2) Do we have any in England?

The first is subjective, but yes it's apparently classed as a mountain if it's (2000ft) above sea level.

180 mountains in England alone, the highest of course being Scafell Pike.

Plenty more info and pics on this websitehttps://www.go4awalk.com/uk-mountains-a ... gland.php

One fact I discovered is that mountains are known as Hewitts in England, Ireland and Wales.

I obviously know they are known as Munros in Scotland, Ben Nevis being the highest.