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Walking holidays with Ben Mee
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:23 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
When did we start playing him at left back again?
Re: Walking holidays with Ben Mee
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:23 pm
by duncandisorderly
I'd probably watch that.
Re: Walking holidays with Ben Mee
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:34 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Same for one of the Liverpool goals as well.
It's concerning, a CH is supposed to get better positionly wise, as they get older.
Re: Walking holidays with Ben Mee
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:43 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:34 pm
It's concerning, a CH is supposed to get better positionly wise, as they get older.
I'd have to see the build up to it again, but I have no clue why he was virtually hugging the touchline for Everton's 3rd goal.
Re: Walking holidays with Ben Mee
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:44 pm
by Loyalclaret
Both central defenders were over that side
Re: Walking holidays with Ben Mee
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:45 pm
by randomclaret2
Ben Mee walks up Ben Nevis
Re: Walking holidays with Ben Mee
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:47 pm
by gawthorpe_view
Ben does the Bens.
Munroe can tag along if he wants.
Re: Walking holidays with Ben Mee
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:37 am
by elwaclaret
Because opposition repeatedly target Taylor and Dwight for overloading. It is something we very much need to address. We tend to lose our heads in midfield when the opposition get on top. It has to be a concern, Cork’s cooler head may be the answer. We need to control the midfield, even if it means throwing extra bodies in there to stop the gaps while we’re struggling. Get the wide men hitting the chalk.
Re: Walking holidays with Ben Mee
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:40 am
by Quickenthetempo
elwaclaret wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:37 am
Because opposition repeatedly target Taylor and Dwight for overloading. It is something we very much need to address. We tend to lose our heads in midfield when the opposition get on top. It has to be a concern, Cork’s cooler head may be the answer. We need to control the midfield, even if it means throwing extra bodies in there to stop the gaps while we’re struggling. Get the wide men hitting the chalk.
Taylor does leave a space but Ben Mee doesn't need to be attracted in to it. He's too slow to be out there and leaves too big a gap in the middle.
Teams have a 10% chance of scoring if both centre halves and keeper are set for a cross.
Another thing is Taylor defends really tight as a 3rd CH but our CH goes all the way out to the touchline. Madness for this team.
Re: Walking holidays with Ben Mee
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:28 am
by dandeclaret
I think you might have analysed the effect, rather than the cause. The left back slot has been wide open for much of this season. The left back also failed to get close enough to Townsend for his wonder goal.
Re: Walking holidays with Ben Mee
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:50 am
by Quickenthetempo
https://youtu.be/oigs17AFkL8
Hopefully the video starts at 1.25 to show Ben Mee's starting position when Everton have the ball 15 yards still in their half.
When you roll the video on it shows the Everton player is on the inside of him.
He's not goal side and 20 yards out of position.
Burnley need the 2 CHs between the posts area.
Re: Walking holidays with Ben Mee
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:52 am
by Spijed
dandeclaret wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:28 am
I think you might have analysed the effect, rather than the cause. The left back slot has been wide open for much of this season. The left back also failed to get close enough to Townsend for his wonder goal.
What's Taylor doing differently to last season?
Re: Walking holidays with Ben Mee
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:53 am
by taio
It was shocking defending all round for their third goal - shape all over the show and very unlike us.
Re: Walking holidays with Ben Mee
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:29 am
by Hipper
Looking at the video we had enough players in the box to deal with the cross. Wood of course was not tight on Keane.
Re: Walking holidays with Ben Mee
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:25 am
by elwaclaret
Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:40 am
Taylor does leave a space but Ben Mee doesn't need to be attracted in to it. He's too slow to be out there and leaves too big a gap in the middle.
Teams have a 10% chance of scoring if both centre halves and keeper are set for a cross.
Another thing is Taylor defends really tight as a 3rd CH but our CH goes all the way out to the touchline. Madness for this team.
Quite true, but Ben Mee was tempted to help block the source as he recognised that was the danger and was drawn to stamp it out. As I state it needs addressing as it clearly destabilises the defence, but it was a problem Mee had spotted and felt he had to address… it has happened all season and needs Dyche’s attention.
Re: Walking holidays with Ben Mee
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:12 pm
by minnieclaret
There was absolutely no reason for Charlie to defend so central. If DCL had played fair enough but Richarlison, not noted for his headed goals, was playing CF with two wingers up front with him. Mark the effing wingers and stop the crosses. Both of BHAs goals, Leeds and Everton’s first all coming from our LB position is no coincidence. We’ve been sussed. Get it fixed SD.
Re: Walking holidays with Ben Mee
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:23 pm
by Ipreferaflan
Main concern is why Lowton wasn't tucked in alongside Tarkowski when the play was down the left side. That's just basics of full back positioning.
Re: Walking holidays with Ben Mee
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:13 pm
by Rammy1968
I must agree with Ipreferaflan Lowton is caught out of position and too far forward. Basics of a fullback is to cover more centrally when the other full back is going forward which he didn’t. He then does not have the pace to get back and cover for his mistake.
Re: Walking holidays with Ben Mee
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:15 pm
by AlargeClaret
There’s an awkward conversation SD is gonna have to have shortly with Ben Mee. His mistakes are becoming too frequent , he’s slower than ever and his distribution is poor and IMO his positional sense has deserted him . He’s brave as a lion etc but is he really irreplaceable??
Re: Walking holidays with Ben Mee
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:39 pm
by IanMcL
Rubbish thread!
Re: Walking holidays with Ben Mee
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:44 pm
by superdimitri
He has two options and made the wrong decision. McNeil should have been covering and Lowton on the other side. Sometimes you have to gamble rather than stay half way between two places and that's what he did.
Turns out it was wrong, but if he stayed in the middle then who knows, they may have scored a different way from more space on the wing.