Don't wait till Christmas to start them together please.

Saturday will do.

I'd probably start Vydra, due to his movement and pace, but you also do have to accept, that he will miss many key chances.

Wood scored 9 goals in 9 games with Vydra alongside him last season.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:13 am

Wood scored 9 goals in 9 games with Vydra alongside him last season.

Didn’t know that and good stat. Can someone tell SD please?

I can’t watch Wood & Barnes again. Zero pace to get in behind or mobility.

dandeclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:12 am

I'd probably start Vydra, due to his movement and pace, but you also do have to accept, that he will miss many key chances.

At least we seem to create them with Vydra in the team though. We’re not creating anywhere near enough at the moment.

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:17 am

At least we seem to create them with Vydra in the team though. We’re not creating anywhere near enough at the moment.

Created enough last night - Wood and Brownhill missed very good chances, there's the goal, and a probable penalty. I don't think it's the goals for column that's the problem at the moment.

Yes Vydra has to come in.

dandeclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:18 am

Created enough last night - Wood and Brownhill missed very good chances, there's the goal, and a probable penalty. I don't think it's the goals for column that's the problem at the moment.

Two ways to look at it. Firstly, we have scored 2 goals in four games, both from ‘second balls’ following set pieces - considered open play but arguably not. So some may say our open play goals is 0 so far. Also, we rarely kill games off when we are in control - last night and Leeds game prime examples. We need to be more ruthless and get that second goal when we are so on top.

But, I also see what you mean in the sense Burnley of old were so consistent at keeping clean sheets and grinding out wins (so many 1-0s). Whereas now we look nowhere near a clean sheet to be honest.

dandeclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:18 am

Created enough last night - Wood and Brownhill missed very good chances, there's the goal, and a probable penalty. I don't think it's the goals for column that's the problem at the moment.

It's both. And you're not talking about the goals for column, you're talking about the chances made column which is very different.

Chances aren't goals and both ones in open play should have been converted. They weren't because Wood isn't firing yet and because Brownhill is generally average at most things.

Wood fires best with Vydra alongside him. I'd take Vydra scoring none if it helps Wood score 10+.

dandeclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:18 am

Created enough last night - Wood and Brownhill missed very good chances, there's the goal, and a probable penalty. I don't think it's the goals for column that's the problem at the moment.

I need to watch this penalty incident again. I can’t remember it!

Saw the Wood chance back on the highlights. That was a much worse miss than it looked to me live. Brownhill was a good chance, I agree.

But my point was more that the forwards are creating anything. We need to put it on a plate for Wood or rely on a defender. Vydra seems to always create something for himself.

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:32 am

I need to watch this penalty incident again. I can’t remember it!

Saw the Wood chance back ion the highlights. That was a much worse miss than it looked to me live. Brownhill was a good chance, I agree.

But my point was more that the forwards are creating anything. We need to put it on a plate for Wood or rely on a defender. Vydra seems to always create something for himself.

Penalty was the foul on Tarkowski on the corner.

I think Taylor and McNeil is a good partnership and if roberts and Cornett can come up with some more creativity and pace we can make more chances at least.

From the right we normally have gudmunson who has to cut in on his left (found out after trying it once) lowton crosses so early cause he knows he doesn’t have the legs to get back.

I’m sorry but playing a throw in for Westwood to volley over the top to two target men with no pace is just not good enough

Seems a bit odd that even though Wood & Vydra proved that they are the best partnership, Dyche has gone back to Barnes.

We had this discussion time and time again last season when it was obvious that the Barnes and Wood combination just wasn’t working. Dyche only played (was forced to play) Vydra when Barnes was injured. Had Barnes not got injured the Barnes/Wood starting lineup would have continued and we would probably have been relegated (imo).

What exactly has Dyche got against Vydra? It seems to be something more that just loyalty to Barnes.

claretcarrot93 wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:10 am

Don't wait till Christmas to start them together please.

If he waits until Christmas the partnership will be very short-lived, since Chris Wood will be playing in a series of Oceanic World Cup qualifiers somewhere in the Middle East during the month of January 2022.

Mala591 wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:16 pm

We had this discussion time and time again last season when it was obvious that the Barnes and Wood combination just wasn’t working. Dyche only played (was forced to play) Vydra when Barnes was injured. Had Barnes not got injured the Barnes/Wood starting lineup would have continued and we would probably have been relegated (imo).

What exactly has Dyche got against Vydra? It seems to be something more that just loyalty to Barnes.

And this is one of the main problems with SD.

He sometimes doesn't see what every man and his dog can see, and he only makes the changed when forces. Mee playing LB, McNeil coming in, Vydra given a chance - all forced, thankfully. We keep having to wait until he has no choice, before the correct move is made.

When they played together i was interested in watching

kazza wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:38 pm

And this is one of the main problems with SD.

We keep having to wait until he has no choice, before the correct move is made.

I think the word you are looking for is Stubborn or maybe Obstinate?