Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by Culmclaret » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:29 pm

Not losing a difficult game is a good start and will have boosted our confidence, particularly as we were a whisker away from snatching it at the death. If we can win next week then things begin to look different. Just hope that Maxwel’s injury is not too bad.
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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by kazza » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:32 pm

MT03ALG wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:23 pm
2 points divided by 6 games x 38 = 12.666 so I generously made it 13 points !!
I was kidding.

Doubling our points means the next time it'll be 4 points we gain in a single game.

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by bobinho » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:38 pm

I’m really struggling with the interpretation of rules again….

The phrase clear and obvious error is bandied about a lot these days, and that VAR will only step in when it’s clear and obvious.

Woods goal was neither, it was tight as a tight thing. So shy would they even look? Not saying it was the wrong decision, but I’m saying if VAR is for clear and obvious errors only, it shouldn’t even have been looked at.

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by NewClaret » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:39 pm

Looks VERY close to me.

Too close for VAR to overturn in my opinion.
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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by bobinho » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:41 pm

Anyway, great point.

Pity about Cornet, looks really lively and it was a great strike by him.

Looks like our plan A is quite good. We should be ok if plan A players remain fit, because we aren’t all that when plan A is disrupted.
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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by martin_p » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:42 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:39 pm
Looks VERY close to me.

Too close for VAR to overturn in my opinion.
That would have been called level before VAR without any complaint. We’ve had a real bad real with VAR at Leicester over the years.

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:43 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:39 pm
Looks VERY close to me.

Too close for VAR to overturn in my opinion.
And at that moment the ball looks slightly away from Barnes’ head, and with wood and castange moving quickly in opposite directions he could well have been on side anyway.

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by box_of_frogs » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:44 pm

joey13 wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:25 pm
It’s pretty stupid, and don’t tell me what to do
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Is the number related to age?

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:44 pm

martin_p wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:42 pm
That would have been called level before VAR without any complaint. We’ve had a real bad real with VAR at Leicester over the years.
What percentage of fans wanted rid of VAR altogether in that summer survey? 70 per cent, was it?

They took no notice as usual.

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by NewClaret » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:46 pm

Iloveyoubrady wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:43 pm
And at that moment the ball looks slightly away from Barnes’ head, and with wood and castange moving quickly in opposite directions he could well have been on side anyway.
Exactly.

I’ll watch MOTD to see if there is a better angle but from that view it looks too close to rule out.

These split second decisions should go in favour of the attacking team in my view.

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by Zlatan » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:47 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:39 pm
Looks VERY close to me.

Too close for VAR to overturn in my opinion.
Be interesting to see the line. Ronaldo looked clearly offside last week with the line but goal stood

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:49 pm

both Vydra and Cornet walked over to the away end and applauded after the game, if the injuries were that bad then they would have been straight down the tunnel. Fingers crossed they were both precautionary

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by AfloatinClaret » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:49 pm

box_of_frogs wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:44 pm
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Is the number related to age?
Be gentle with Joey13; it wasn't a school night last night, so he would've been allowed to stay up late and now he's probably just a bit tired and mardy as a result? If you keep teasing hime he'll only scream and scream and scream until he's sick and then it'll be his mum, not you, that has to clean it up and get him bathed again before bedtime.
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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by NewClaret » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:49 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:47 pm
Be interesting to see the line. Ronaldo looked clearly offside last week with the line but goal stood
He scored it with his head anyway. I’m not sure we should be worrying about toes offside from headers.

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by diamondpocket » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:51 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:46 pm
Exactly.

I’ll watch MOTD to see if there is a better angle but from that view it looks too close to rule out.

These split second decisions should go in favour of the attacking team in my view.
Exactly. If he is offside for an arm then it automatically goes in the favour of the defender because the momentum of an attacker is always gonna put his arms, forehead, etc, in an offside position. It's their instinct to move forward and attack an oncoming ball, and it's so much easier for a defender to move his body slightly or stand his ground. That seems ultimately unfair on the attacker and almost impossible to gain any advantage.

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:51 pm

joey13 wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:09 pm
Why do people say that , I would have taken a draw this morning, you don’t get offered the result before the game was played , utter nonsense
Eh? What an odd thing to get wound up about :lol:

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by Culmclaret » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:52 pm

There seems to be just as much argument over VAR decisions as those taken in real time, so I just don’t see the point of it

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by Claret » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:53 pm

I thought they would always check with VAR for offside but now they will only overturn the decision if the two lines they draw are overlapping in any way

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:54 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:39 pm
Looks VERY close to me.

Too close for VAR to overturn in my opinion.
his foot is clearly in advance of the defender, even my mrs said it was offside in real time !

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:55 pm

Going by the forensically drawn lines that we were subjected to last season, Wood was offside. However I thought that they were now using a thicker line, which they may very well have done but I haven’t seen it, in which case it’s the right call. Otherwise it seems to me like the kind of ‘level’ goal which we were told would stand if awarded in real time.

It’s a funny thing is football. Before the game i
I’d have been happy with a point, and even going into injury time as gutted as I was I wanted the game to end. But having come so close, twice, to winning the game it leaves mixed feelings. I always think it’s good to imagine had the game gone the other way would I be happy, and had we scored a 86th minute equaliser I certainly would have been.

We’re playing pretty well and trying to take the game to the other teams. We need a bit of luck, and certainly some better game management, but I think we will start picking up the points we need.

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:56 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:54 pm
his foot is clearly in advance of the defender, even my mrs said it was offside in real time !
His foot is in advance of the defender’s foot but that angle doesn’t conclusively prove that his foot is in advance of the furthest point of the defender’s body.

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by Pstotto » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:58 pm

Well played Burnley.

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by diamondpocket » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:59 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:54 pm
his foot is clearly in advance of the defender, even my mrs said it was offside in real time !
yeah and what do women know about footy!! :lol:

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by claretblue » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:08 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:28 pm
Have to hope Vydra is ok because Jay has done his hamstring
where have you heard that Vegas?

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by kazza » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:11 pm

claretblue wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:08 pm
where have you heard that Vegas?
Dyche said it in his after-match interview - was shown on Soccer Saturday.

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:21 pm

Dyche on Cornet's injury

"Good signs early on and we just hope it is not too serious an injury, and the same with Vyds."

positive
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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by Stevie Morgan » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:27 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:39 pm
Looks VERY close to me.

Too close for VAR to overturn in my opinion.
If the whole of the ball has to be over the whole of line for line decisions, why is different for offside? Its ****.

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:26 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:01 pm
We must find a way to hold on to leads again. We need a shift in mentality.
From SD, the substitutions are killing us

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by jojomk1 » Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:27 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:22 pm
Who knows perhaps today could be the day that Dyche's fetish with all things Barnes comes to an end, hindsight is wonderful but most observers could see the midfield needed bolstering.
Most observers could clearly see the midfield needed bolstering

Apart from Dyche

His tactical ineptacy is really coming to the fore this season
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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by Spijed » Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:31 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:27 pm
Most observers could clearly see the midfield needed bolstering

Apart from Dyche

His tactical ineptacy is really coming to the fore this season
I Thought Cork played well against Rochdale

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by Culmclaret » Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:34 pm

Is ineptacy infectious

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Re: Leicester City v Burnley - match thread

Post by dsr » Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:50 pm

martin_p wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:42 pm
That would have been called level before VAR without any complaint. We’ve had a real bad real with VAR at Leicester over the years.
Under the laws as they stand, level is onside, and under the guidance given to referees when the law was brought in 30 years ago, level is to be judged by the human eye, not by toes and inches. If a man looks, level, then he is level.

The VAR people, whether through ignorance or deliberate policy, have decided that that rule brought in 30 years ago was wrong. It was brought in specifically to give the forward an advantage and create more goals, and the VAR people in their pig-headed obstinacy have chosen to pretend to believe that the lawmakers at the time meant to give a quarter of an inch advantage to the forward, and not (as we all thought at the time) a couple of feet. Which is why Wood's goal would be onside if Accrington Stanley scored it. in a game with no cameras, correctly under the law; but offside under the newly applied VAR rules.

And that, of course, is before we start thinking about the way a player's foot can move literally two feet between frames of a TV camera.

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