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Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:45 am
by Mala591
—————————Pope
Lowton——Tarks——Mee——Taylor
———Westwood————Cork
———————Brownhill
McNeil————————————Cornet
————————Vydra
Three man central midfield with Brownhill just in front of Westwood and Cork
This will give McNeil and Cornet a bit more freedom to attack when we’re in possession
Rest Wood as he is off form
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:54 am
by claret2018
We may as well, the same-old certainly won’t work against City.
What’s the punishment for not turning up to a game? Whatever it is that might be preferable to whatever side we put out.
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:57 am
by Lancasterclaret
Actually almost used the us going to City to talk the coach of my lads U13s team from forfeiting a game versus the league leaders who win all their games by a cricket score.
Then thought better of it, as at least our lads get well paid for getting pummelled at City
Anyway, totally agree that we need to try something different
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:06 pm
by ClaretLoup
You have to question the point of playing two big lumbering centre halves when City don’t have a centre forward, so they won’t be raining in loads of crosses.
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:09 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
Need to try something different and get out of the habit of just writing this game off. Southampton got a point a few weeks ago.
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:10 pm
by martin_p
I don’t see the point of experimenting against a team that is likely to beat us whatever team/formation we field. How would we know if the experiment has worked or not (apart from the unlikely event of us not losing of course).
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:11 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Play 5 at the back to limit space of through balls.
An extra head up there for set pieces if we get one.
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:12 pm
by CleggHall
Watching City v Liverpool yesterday, City are frighteningly good, a different class - here’s hoping!
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:13 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
Pope
Lowton Tarks Collins Mee Pieters
JBG Brownhill Cork Westwood McNeill
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:16 pm
by Rowls
-------------------------------------- Pope -----------------------------------
Bardsley --- Lowton --- Tarks --- Collins --- Mee --- Taylor --- Pieters
------ JBG --------------------- Westwood -------------- Lennon ----------
Try and hit them on the break
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:16 pm
by Bosscat
Can picture it now ...
Dyche thinks "hmmmmm all those lot over on UTC think I should change it round a bit and experiment .... OK here we go .... I will do it"
Scoreline 8-0 to City ...
Dyche reads the UTC forum
"wtf was Dyche thinking"
"Rubbish what was that ginger moron doing" "Dyche out"
"Why didn't he play ******* in midfield, wing, up front delete as required"
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:21 pm
by Quickenthetempo
claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:13 pm
Pope
Lowton Tarks Collins Mee Pieters
JBG Brownhill Cork Westwood McNeill
Could be the first premier league game without a CF.
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:22 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:21 pm
Could be the first premier league game without a CF.
Well if it is good enough for them
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:22 pm
by snapcrackleandpop
Mala591 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:45 am
—————————Pope
Lowton——Tarks——Mee——Taylor
———Westwood————Cork
———————Brownhill
McNeil————————————Cornet
————————Vydra
Three man central midfield with Brownhill just in front of Westwood and Cork
This will give McNeil and Cornet a bit more freedom to attack when we’re in possession
Rest Wood as he is off form
Experiment, change of system
he's not capable of it
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:23 pm
by gandhisflipflop
---------------------------------------------Pope
Lowton---Bardsley--roberts--Tarks---Collins--Mee--Long----Pieters---Taylor---Cornet
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:25 pm
by claret2018
—————-————-pope———————————
Lowton-Tarks-Collins-Mee-Pieters-Taylor
JBG———Cork———Brownhill——Cornet
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:25 pm
by randomclaret2
Surely at some point we need to at least try a 3 at the back, Collins Tarkowski and Mee, with Roberts and Cornet as wing backs.
3-5-2 in possession, 5-3-2 when not.
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:26 pm
by martin_p
gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:23 pm
---------------------------------------------Pope
Lowton---Bardsley--roberts--Tarks---Collins--Mee--Long----Pieters---Taylor---Cornet
Or……..
Lowton---Bardsley--roberts--Tarks---Collins--Mee--Long----Pieters---Taylor---Cornet
…………………………………………………….. Pope
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:44 pm
by MACCA
Wouldn't even bother letting Cornet play even if 100% fit, we have bigger fish to fry on the coming weeks.
We dont want any strains or injuries
I'd actually go
Pope
Lowton Tarky Collins Mee Taylor
Westwood Brownhill Cork
Barnes Jay
Wouldn't risk any of McNeil, Vydra, Wood or Cornet. Let them all have a big ret , it might do Vydra and Wood the world of good, especially the latter after the Olympics and no real pre season off
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:52 pm
by claretandy
Can we not just forfeit it ? 0-3 sounds like a good result to me.
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:57 pm
by Blatherwickstattoo
Agree with the original post. The side you put out too.
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:16 pm
by TheFamilyCat
City conceded two yesterday. Just need to exploit their weakness of conceding high quality goals against world class opposition.
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:26 pm
by Vino blanco
I also agree with the op and would be happy to see his team selection. Something has to change, we are so predictable and one dimensional it’s getting boring and frustrating. Living abroad and with the coved situation I only watch on tv but whenever any of our players gets the ball I know exactly what he is going to do: it was horrible to watch us against Norwich knocking in long diagonal centres from way out wide straight on to the heads of three 6 foot plus centre backs. They had us sussed from the kick off. I would love to see change but I am not hopeful.
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:25 pm
by Boss Hogg
claretandy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:52 pm
Can we not just forfeit it ? 0-3 sounds like a good result to me.
Would be a vast improvement on previous seasons. Would save people a lot of unnecessary expense and time too. The same formation and tactics will produce the same result which is a heavy defeat. At least fans of other clubs have hope that they might surprise Man City with something, try and contribute to the game and have a chance of scoring.
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:26 pm
by Vegas Claret
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:27 pm
by Vegas Claret
if we play like did against Norwich and City play like they did yesterday then I'd take 5-0 now
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:32 pm
by Vegas Claret
He'll play 4-4-2 and Tarkowski will just hoof it to Diaz for 90 minutes
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:36 pm
by ClaretTony
Boss Hogg wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:25 pm
At least fans of other clubs have hope that they might surprise Man City with something, try and contribute to the game and have a chance of scoring.
A bit like us at Liverpool
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:39 pm
by AfloatinClaret
Can we not just line the squad up by height and pick the tallest ten, lay four of them end to end along the floor on the goal line, six more shoulder to shoulder a foot in front of those and then Nick Pope can be our goal keeper/lone striker a further 2' further forward still?
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:44 pm
by claretblue
claretandy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:52 pm
0-3 sounds like a good result to me.
me too!
...that would be our 1st victory this season!
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:47 pm
by evensteadiereddie
Bosscat wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:16 pm
Can picture it now ...
Dyche thinks "hmmmmm all those lot over on UTC think I should change it round a bit and experiment .... OK here we go .... I will do it"
Scoreline 8-0 to City ...
Dyche reads the UTC forum
"wtf was Dyche thinking"
"Rubbish what was that ginger moron doing" "Dyche out"
"Why didn't he play ******* in midfield, wing, up front delete as required"
Brilliant - except you missed out "Effin Dyche wanted by (insert name of club) ?.....I'll effin drive him there meself."
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:29 pm
by Bosscat
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:30 pm
by ClaretMov
—————-Pope———------
Lowton-Tarks-Mee-Taylor
JBG——Brownhill——Cornet
--------Vydra--------McNeil-------
------------------Wood‐---------------
Or
—————-Pope———------
Lowton-Tarks-Mee-Pieters
Cornet——Brownhill——Taylor
--------Vydra--------McNeil-------
------------------Wood‐---------------
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:44 pm
by Cirrus_Minor
I noted that PSG allowed City to have most possessions and completely filled their penalty area to block off the tippy tappy football. City never cross and always try to pass their way through. OK, I know we don’t have Messi and co up front, but city do get frustrated with having every attempt.
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:45 pm
by Stayingup
Rowls wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:16 pm
-------------------------------------- Pope -----------------------------------
Bardsley --- Lowton --- Tarks --- Collins --- Mee --- Taylor --- Pieters
------ JBG --------------------- Westwood -------------- Lennon ----------
Try and hit them on the break
Alternatively board the nets up!!!
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:47 pm
by dougcollins
claret2018 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:54 am
We may as well, the same-old certainly won’t work against City.
What’s the punishment for not turning up to a game? Whatever it is that might be preferable to whatever side we put out.
It used to be a 3-0 defeat, that's probably preferable to what normally happens.
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:47 pm
by Quickenthetempo
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:36 pm
A bit like us at Liverpool
We have a chance against Liverpool as they use pace over the top to hurt most teams. We can defend deep to nullify. It's still dam hard but we have a chance.
City is a different ball game as they have pace or little passes that move us about all game and work different angles. They exploit every weakness (and most other teams) we have.
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:09 pm
by MACCA
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:32 pm
He'll play 4-4-2 and Tarkowski will just hoof it to Diaz for 90 minutes
What an absolute load of b0llocks!
It'll be Mee
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:20 pm
by bobinho
ClaretLoup wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:06 pm
You have to question the point of playing two big lumbering centre halves when City don’t have a centre forward, so they won’t be raining in loads of crosses.
Who do you fancy in there instead of Mee and Tarks then?
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:28 pm
by elwaclaret
Dust of ElTel’sChristmas tree… they won’t be expecting that!
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:31 pm
by bf2k
MACCA wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:44 pm
Wouldn't even bother letting Cornet play even if 100% fit, we have bigger fish to fry on the coming weeks.
We dont want any strains or injuries
I'd actually go
Pope
Lowton Tarky Collins Mee Taylor
Westwood Brownhill Cork
Barnes Jay
Wouldn't risk any of McNeil, Vydra, Wood or Cornet. Let them all have a big ret , it might do Vydra and Wood the world of good, especially the latter after the Olympics and no real pre season off
Can’t argue with this. Give those who need it an extended rest. History tells us we’re not likely to get anything with the usual system so we may as well try something different.
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:36 pm
by Bosscat
elwaclaret wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:28 pm
Dust of ElTel’sChristmas tree… they won’t be expecting that!
Lights are fused m8 and the baubles are a bit tatty
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:45 pm
by ClaretTony
Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:47 pm
We have a chance against Liverpool as they use pace over the top to hurt most teams. We can defend deep to nullify. It's still dam hard but we have a chance.
City is a different ball game as they have pace or little passes that move us about all game and work different angles. They exploit every weakness (and most other teams) we have.
Absolutely, the best two teams in the league but they play in totally different ways, one of which we can handle to an extent but the other we struggle with.
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:14 pm
by Spijed
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:45 pm
Absolutely, the best two teams in the league but they play in totally different ways, one of which we can handle to an extent but the other we struggle with.
For some reason we also seem to now struggle away to Spurs.
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:17 pm
by ClaretTony
Spijed wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:14 pm
For some reason we also seem to now struggle away to Spurs.
Only for two games, prior to that there hadn't been more than a goal in it under Dyche.
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:24 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
I would try something slightly different
Pope
Lowton Collins Tarks Pieters
Brownhill
Lennon Cork Westwood McNeil
Barnes
Defend for our lives and hope Barnes can win some free kicks in dangerous areas.
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:35 pm
by Down_Rover
No point playing Wood Barnes or Jayrod
They won’t get the ball
I think the OP has it about right
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:38 pm
by Nonayforever
Do the rules allow for 2 goalies ?
If not, then I would go for the following ;-
Pope
Bardsley Tarks Collins Mee Pieter's
Lowton Westwood Brownhill Taylor
McNeil
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:39 pm
by claretandy
We struggle against City, Spurs and Chelsea, but not against Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal.
Re: Time to experiment with our lineup/formation against Man City?
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:12 pm
by box_of_frogs
9 - 0 - 1 system should just about cover it.
