Newcastle's takeover by a Saudi consortium is about to go through after a settlement over piracy issues on beIN sports.

Quoted by Craig Hope, local journalist in the North East and works for Daily Mail.

Must be true then if he works for the Daily Fail.

Bye Bye Brucie

Currently the geordies are annoying with their we are massive mentality, if the deal goes through they will be totally insufferable.

bfcjg wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:40 pm

Currently the geordies are annoying with their we are massive mentality, if the deal goes through they will be totally insufferable.

Was having a drink with a Geordie on Sunday chatting about Footy and have to say he was anything but "Insufferable" or "We are Massive" but then again he is my Nieces Husband and probably is when he is with his Toon m8s

Not good news for us really. Big relegation rival this season.

bfcjg wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:40 pm

Currently the geordies are annoying with their we are massive mentality, if the deal goes through they will be totally insufferable.

Report in the paper at the w/end. Journalist said that previous Newcastle takeover had been blocked by the "big 6" because they didn't want anyone else to be able to "join their party." Journo argued that it made a strong case for regulator deciding these things, rather than Premier League club votes.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:48 pm

Not good news for us really. Big relegation rival this season.

Definitely not. I had Newcastle down as one of the few teams we could potentially finish above.

We’ve not exactly improved since our takeover have we.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:22 pm

We’ve not exactly improved since our takeover have we.

Dunno, I’d consider Cornet, Ribera & Collins an improvement.

Sense theirs might be on a different level though

Really really bad news for us. With these owners they could spend 50-60m in January.

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:28 pm

Dunno, I’d consider Cornet, Ribera & Collins an improvement.

Sense theirs might be on a different level though

I’m not referring to signings made, I’m talking about results, which have been very poor since the takeover. Just demonstrating that this may not necessarily benefit Newcastle, particular in the context of this season.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:31 pm

I’m not referring to signings made, I’m talking about results, which have been very poor since the takeover. Just demonstrating that this may not necessarily benefit Newcastle, particular in the context of this season.

Fair point.

Usually I’d say sacking a manager is not going to be helpful, but not sure it matters with Bruce

Their takeover might be on wholly different scale and involve a whole lot more of a cash injection than ours, but they still have to wait until January for it to make any material difference and as is said so often, January is a short window and a crap market for serious strengthening.

i dislike footy more and more every day, the PL is becoming a Billionaires play thing

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:30 pm

Really really bad news for us. With these owners they could spend 50-60m in January.

One and a half Joelintons. That should see them right.

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:28 pm

Dunno, I’d consider Cornet, Ribera & Collins an improvement.

Sense theirs might be on a different level though

Serious question - who’s Ribera? Have I missed something?

Edit: just realised it’s probably an autocorrect for Roberts.

Living in the area i have heard all the whinging and moaning about this, I am glad they are looking to get what they wanted. I have my reservations but proof will be in the pudding.

For what it is worth ignoring the paranoid geordie moaning the only LEGAL barrier was the illegal streaming in Saudi once that is gone there isn’t anything that blocks it going through.

I don’t see it making a huge difference this season I didn’t see them as part of the relegation picture at the end of the season anyway. After this season it could propel them 1 of 2 ways to oblivion or where they all believe they belong competing for major honours.

BurnleyFC wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 06, 2021 8:42 pm

Serious question - who’s Ribera? Have I missed something?

Edit: just realised it’s probably an autocorrect for Roberts.

Yep, sorry. No idea how that happened!

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:46 pm

Was having a drink with a Geordie on Sunday chatting about Footy and have to say he was anything but "Insufferable" or "We are Massive" but then again he is my Nieces Husband and probably is when he is with his Toon m8s

I live in Newcastle and regularly spend time with groups of them. I've never sensed a "we are massive" mentality. They generally have a "we deserve to go down" and "apathy to Ashley" mentality. But this takeover worries me for 2 reasons. One: they will clearly invest in January. Two: the PL seem happy to let anyone run a club as long as, on paper, it looks like it's someone else. The fit and proper owners test is clearly more about protecting the PL than it is about protecting the clubs

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:28 pm

Dunno, I’d consider Cornet, Ribera & Collins an improvement.

Sense theirs might be on a different level though

Ribera?.....I missed that one.

........Looks like the Saudi's have greased the right palms.

This is a takeover on a completely different level to ours, nobody should make any mistake about that.

It’s also just about the most morally contemptible thing you can imagine to football in this country, even on top of everything that’s already happened. But that’s by the by from our perspective.

Agreed, Saudi Arabia is a vicious totalitarian state. We may be relegated but I for one would far rather that than be owned by that sort of people. The Premier League is increasingly a nest of scumbaggery.

Erasmus wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:38 pm

Agreed, Saudi Arabia is a vicious totalitarian state. We may be relegated but I for one would far rather that than be owned by that sort of people. The Premier League is increasingly a nest of scumbaggery.

Half of football clubs in the country are ran by dodgy people.

Apparently the Saudis are now forgiven for the BelN illegal streaming. Strange how this prevented the takeover and not that Saudi Arabia is one of the most odious countries on Earth that shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near the English Premier League.

Could be interesting.
If they replace Bruce and spend big in the transfer window then they need to get it right first time, because it has the potential to go wrong having such a big upheaval.
I suspect Bruce would see out the season because he's not doing a bad job, he'd then get potted in the summer.

I heard "Neymar signing for Bruce then"...

I'd already put my feet up, thinking we'll finish above Norwich, Watford & Newcastle.

Might have to look for another team to replace Newcastle

Just read a couple of Newcastle forums talking about new manager, Conte etc mentioned, richer then City etc blah blah blah.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:42 pm

Half of football clubs in the country are ran by dodgy people.

There's dodgy, then there's you're the ruling monarch of a autocratic/theocratic state which exports extreme Wahhabist Islamism and you order dissident journalists to be cut up into small pieces in such a public way as to silence other dissenters-dodgy. This is all happening at the instruction of the crown prince to help launder his own and the reputation of his backwards-even-by-middle-east-standards country.

I remember a team somewhere that got taken over by wealthy Indian owners.. they were going to buy Ronaldinho and rule Europe.. can't think what happened to them

Woonderbah wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:00 am

I remember a team somewhere that got taken over by wealthy Indian owners.. they were going to buy Ronaldinho and rule Europe.. can't think what happened to them

Are you really comparing the millionaire Venkys to the trillionaire Saudis? I read this takeover would see them become the 2nd richest club in the entire world.

Spiral wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:56 pm

There's dodgy, then there's you're the ruling monarch of a autocratic/theocratic state which exports extreme Wahhabist Islamism and you order dissident journalists to be cut up into small pieces in such a public way as to silence other dissenters-dodgy. This is all happening at the instruction of the crown prince to help launder his own and the reputation of his backwards-even-by-middle-east-standards country.

Are you worried them owning Newcastle football club is going to bring there culture to the north east?

I really don’t understand this view at all. The Saudis will pump hundreds of millions of pounds into a relatively poor area of the country. It’s all positive for Newcastle, they could become the next Man City. Given there owners are worth ten times that of Man City’s

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 07, 2021 5:47 am

Are you worried them owning Newcastle football club is going to bring there culture to the north east?

I really don’t understand this view at all. The Saudis will pump hundreds of millions of pounds into a relatively poor area of the country. It’s all positive for Newcastle, they could become the next Man City. Given there owners are worth ten times that of Man City’s

I think the concern is this will be another example of ‘sports-washing’ where a regime with a questionable human-rights record gains further legitimacy through its ownership of a football club. The owners of Manchester City have poured millions into a deeply deprived area of Manchester and undoubtedly raised the club up several levels, but back home they have some questions to answer on the HR front.

There is nuance to this beyond doing a good thing for a club, and a bit in the community. The use of high profile clubs in geopolitics is a thing. To some people that is deeply unethical, to others… not particularly bothered.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 07, 2021 5:47 am

Are you worried them owning Newcastle football club is going to bring there culture to the north east?

I really don’t understand this view at all. The Saudis will pump hundreds of millions of pounds into a relatively poor area of the country. It’s all positive for Newcastle, they could become the next Man City. Given there owners are worth ten times that of Man City’s

You sound more excited for this takeover than I think you've ever been for Burnley's

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:58 am

You sound more excited for this takeover than I think you've ever been for Burnley's

He might get a new house out of it

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 07, 2021 5:47 am

Are you worried them owning Newcastle football club is going to bring there culture to the north east?

I really don’t understand this view at all. The Saudis will pump hundreds of millions of pounds into a relatively poor area of the country. It’s all positive for Newcastle, they could become the next Man City. Given there owners are worth ten times that of Man City’s

One positive is you will have a team on your doorstep who might spend the money you want, play the football you want and be successful. You could finally become happy in life and the forum would be spared your nonsense.

As for your silly response regarding bringing their culture to the North East, some people (accepted normally adults) tend not to be keen on the way certain states are run and their idea of what to do to people who disagree with them, then there are kids who's first thought is how much money they will spend and how big they might become.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:22 pm

We’ve not exactly improved since our takeover have we.

The Saudi’s actually have money though…..

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 07, 2021 5:47 am

Are you worried them owning Newcastle football club is going to bring there culture to the north east?

I really don’t understand this view at all. The Saudis will pump hundreds of millions of pounds into a relatively poor area of the country. It’s all positive for Newcastle, they could become the next Man City. Given there owners are worth ten times that of Man City’s

We can sell you Brownhill for $30m

Just what we need. Yet another club we've competed with to step up the spending even more. Nothing against Newcastle but we may as well play in a different conference if we're only left competing with 4-5 teams for relegation each year.

More money just wrecks the game.

The EPL is becoming a dog turd.

Spijed wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:14 pm

I'd already put my feet up, thinking we'll finish above Norwich, Watford & Newcastle.

Might have to look for another team to replace Newcastle

Not many promising candidates - Southampton, Palace and maybe Wolves

Just another day in the sleazefest that is the EPL.

Still, it'd be nice if we can stink the place out for a few more seasons.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:22 pm

We’ve not exactly improved since our takeover have we.

You mean the one that happened 10 months ago? The one that signed the players mentioned in the replies? Give it time.

Newcastle is a good footballing town but its supporters have been totally demoralised by Ashley running the club into the ground over the past 14 years. They deserve something better, whether Saudi Arabian owners is it, is another question.

CleggHall wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:23 am

Newcastle is a good footballing town but its supporters have been totally demoralised by Ashley running the club into the ground over the past 14 years. They deserve something better, whether Saudi Arabian owners is it, is another question.

Hardly ran it into the ground, just refuses to treat it as play thing

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:21 am

You mean the one that happened 10 months ago? The one that signed the players mentioned in the replies? Give it time.

Yes that one. My point was clearly aimed at those suggesting that a takeover at Newcastle now automatically puts them out of the relegation picture. Like our change of ownership, the improvements don't happen overnight.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 07, 2021 10:09 am

Yes that one. My point was clearly aimed at those suggesting that a takeover at Newcastle now automatically puts them out of the relegation picture. Like our change of ownership, the improvements don't happen overnight.

Fair enough RB, I agree. I misread your post. Apologies.

On a side note, maybe they will come in for McNeil and offer stupid money

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 07, 2021 10:09 am

Yes that one. My point was clearly aimed at those suggesting that a takeover at Newcastle now automatically puts them out of the relegation picture. Like our change of ownership, the improvements don't happen overnight.

If Newcastle come out of the January window with no signings because the owners are surprised that agents charge fees, you might have a point.

daveisaclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 07, 2021 10:16 am

If Newcastle come out of the January window with no signings because the owners are surprised that agents charge fees, you might have a point.

Were they surprised they charged fees? Or were they surprised at the amounts they charged, or the nature of their business?