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England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:41 pm
by kazza
Hoping Foden gets another chance against stronger opposition, but looking like he's going to miss out.
It's Hungary, not France, so I don't think we need both Henderson and Rice. I'd go with a midfield-attack of:
Henderson
Foden Mount
Sterling Kane Grealish
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:44 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
kazza wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:41 pm
Hoping Foden gets another chance against stronger opposition, but looking like he's going to miss out.
It's Hungary, not France, so I don't think we need both Henderson and Rice. I'd go with a midfield-attack of:
Henderson
Foden Mount
Sterling Kane Grealish
Gutted if Foden doesn’t make it. He is truly a top top player
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:54 pm
by kazza
I didn't realise that Kane is 1 goal away from Rooney's record in competitive England games - and also 1 goal away from Rooney's World Cup scoring record (according to a post on social media anyway)
Competitive Games (games played/scored)
Rooney 74 - 37
Kane 53 - 36
World Cup Games
Rooney 17 - 17
Kane 16 - 16
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:55 pm
by IanMcL
Pickford in goal.
Kane up front
The rest is fill in the blanks.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:58 pm
by Sproggy
Given Southgate's tendency to play 2 holding midfielders against anyone stronger than the Morris Dancers 2nd 11, I think there's every chance that we'll see Henderson and Rice in front of a back four. The only question is how many right backs he'll manage to squeeze into the team.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:22 pm
by kazza
England: Pickford; Walker, Stones, Mings, Shaw; Rice, Foden; Sterling, Mount, Grealish; Kane.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:47 pm
by Devils_Advocate
Sproggy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:58 pm
Given Southgate's tendency to play 2 holding midfielders against anyone stronger than the Morris Dancers 2nd 11, I think there's every chance that we'll see Henderson and Rice in front of a back four. The only question is how many right backs he'll manage to squeeze into the team.
I reckon Id take Paul Merson's betting tips over yours.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:15 pm
by RVclaret
Like that team! Looking forward to watching Foden again. Just an Alexander Arnold & Maguire off a very strong side there.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:24 pm
by superdimitri
Sproggy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:58 pm
Given Southgate's tendency to play 2 holding midfielders against anyone stronger than the Morris Dancers 2nd 11, I think there's every chance that we'll see Henderson and Rice in front of a back four. The only question is how many right backs he'll manage to squeeze into the team.
I'm guessing you tempted fate with that post?
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:12 pm
by Firthy
What a ridiculous penalty for headbutting a foot.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:13 pm
by conyoviejo
Never a phookin penalty.the games gone soft.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:13 pm
by Spijed
Luke Shaw has only himself to blame for having his foot so high, especially in the box.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:15 pm
by fidelcastro
Not too long ago that isn't even a foul.
Also, how long has 'fouls suffered' been a caption? I've never noticed that one before.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:16 pm
by ClaretTony
Firthy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:12 pm
What a ridiculous penalty for headbutting a foot.
Sadly pens are given for this now but I agree with you, it’s ridiculous.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:17 pm
by BurnleyFC
In today’s rules (which I really don’t agree with, by the way) that is a penalty.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:18 pm
by PadihamThickNeck
Half hour in we have been awful and struggling badly to break them down and create a chance.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:21 pm
by fidelcastro
Spijed wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:13 pm
Luke Shaw has only himself to blame for having his foot so high, especially in the box.
He was clearing the ball, which he did. I'm not sure what else he was supposed to do.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:22 pm
by corporal jones
PadihamThickNeck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:18 pm
Half hour in we have been awful and struggling badly to break them down and create a chance.
Except the one where a one two between grealish and Shaw led to a cross and last ditch clearance from the defender.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:24 pm
by Bosscat
Stones hits the back of the net 1-1
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:33 pm
by Bosscat
Were Petr Cech and Péter Gulácsi seperated at Birth
Petr Cech
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Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:37 pm
by Peter Loo
BurnleyFC wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:17 pm
In today’s rules (which I really don’t agree with, by the way) that is a penalty.
There are no rules in Association Football .. there all Laws.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:42 pm
by martin_p
Peter Loo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:37 pm
There are no rules in Association Football .. there all Laws.
Well if you’re going to be pedantic,
they’re all laws.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:43 pm
by AlargeClaret
I’m too busy laughing at our hilariously soft riot police getting absolutely battered by a few Hungarians with bare fists . What on earth were the police going in with batons because the Hungarians booed the knee. Preposterous overreaction
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:44 pm
by boatshed bill
Grealish is playing really well, fantastic ball control.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:45 pm
by martin_p
Spijed wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:13 pm
Luke Shaw has only himself to blame for having his foot so high, especially in the box.
The mistake Shaw made was not being the goalkeeper. Apparently they can virtually take a player’s head off without it being a penalty.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:45 pm
by Peter Loo
martin_p wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:42 pm
Well if you’re going to be pedantic,
they’re all laws.
Gotcha!
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:50 pm
by gandhisflipflop
AlargeClaret wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:43 pm
I’m too busy laughing at our hilariously soft riot police getting absolutely battered by a few Hungarians with bare fists . What on earth were the police going in with batons because the Hungarians booed the knee. Preposterous overreaction
Because if you boo the knee, it is nasty and evil and you are going to hell. Obey the narrative....or else....
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:03 pm
by BleedingClaret
I’d take Kane off and play somebody up front that wants to play up front
The lack of the out ball is allowing them to hold their shape man for man
Possibly Sterling central play a few balls over the top and gaps will appear between their lines
Cue a Harry Kane Hat trick
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:06 pm
by Funkydrummer
AlargeClaret wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:43 pm
I’m too busy laughing at our hilariously soft riot police getting absolutely battered by a few Hungarians with bare fists . What on earth were the police going in with batons because the Hungarians booed the knee. Preposterous overreaction
I wouldn't be too surprised if it wasn't their own police that have travelled with them. It's most
unlike our lot to wade in with batons at, what seemed to be, the first sign of unrest.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:09 pm
by AlargeClaret
Funkydrummer wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:06 pm
I wouldn't be too surprised if it wasn't their own police that have travelled with them. It's most
unlike our lot to wade in with batons at, what seemed to be, the first sign of unrest.
Good point actually , though football does tend to give the old bill carte blanche
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:10 pm
by Funkydrummer
Harry Kane, the invisible man !!!!
Anonymous.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:12 pm
by expoultryboy
Should be okay now , Saka on !!
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:13 pm
by Devils_Advocate
gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:50 pm
Because if you boo the knee, it is nasty and evil and you are going to hell. Obey the narrative....or else....
Or if you racially abuse a steward which is what one of the Hungary fans was arrested for. Still you keep getting your knickers in a twist about football players taking the knee if it helps you cope.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:14 pm
by gsyclaret
Funkydrummer wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:10 pm
Harry Kane, the invisible man !!!!
Anonymous.
absolutely
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:16 pm
by BleedingClaret
Ah, the crafty old take your best player off tactic
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:18 pm
by HunterST_BFC
Soooooooooooooooooooooooo SSSSSSSSLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:19 pm
by bf2k
BleedingClaret wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:16 pm
Ah, the crafty old take your best player off tactic
This is Southgate’s issue, he’s tactically poor and very slow to change.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:19 pm
by gandhisflipflop
Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:13 pm
Or if you racially abuse a steward which is what one of the Hungary fans was arrested for. Still you keep getting your knickers in a twist about football players taking the knee if it helps you cope.
Course they did.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:23 pm
by gsyclaret
Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:13 pm
Or if you racially abuse a steward which is what one of the Hungary fans was arrested for. Still you keep getting your knickers in a twist about football players taking the knee if it helps you cope.
your knickers would be a bit twisted when you took the knee
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:24 pm
by Bosscat
People whinging about England
Have a think about our friends north of the border ... currently nil all with that powerhouse of European Footy the Faroe Islands ... watched by 6 old blokes, 3 dogs and a Sheep
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:25 pm
by Devils_Advocate
gsyclaret wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:23 pm
your knickers would be a bit twisted when you took the knee
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:25 pm
by BleedingClaret
bf2k wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:19 pm
This is Southgate’s issue, he’s tactically poor and very slow to change.
Sterling was totally ineffective in the first half hour, but that was obvious after 10minutes, if we’d put him central to make runs over the top Kane may have got space in behind his runs and if their defence started dropping deep our midfield may have got men over and space.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:28 pm
by gsyclaret
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:31 pm
by BurnleyFC
This is weary.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:37 pm
by bf2k
BurnleyFC wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:31 pm
This is weary.
What the game of the childish ******** on here…as usual
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:38 pm
by CrosspoolClarets
Foden the one person with any creativity. About a dozen dangerous balls in, rest of team less than half a dozen between them.
Rice = backwards (at least Henderson goes forward)
Mount + what does he do?
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:38 pm
by aggi
BurnleyFC wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:31 pm
This is weary.
The match or this thread?
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:38 pm
by Stayingup
BurnleyFC wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:31 pm
This is weary.
You mean the match, or the limp attempt at banter on here or Matterface? Bit to go at there.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:39 pm
by Billy Balfour
Dull as a dishwasher.
Re: England - Hungary
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:40 pm
by Devils_Advocate
Fair play to Southgate for experimenting but for those who usually moan about him picking a too defensive line up this shows that simply throwing on all your attacking players doesnt always lead to playing more attacking football.
Getting control of the midfield gives you control of the game and then push your full backs up and get your four attacking players in the game and you dominate and win games
