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Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:00 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Just seen a picture of the canal over at Accy/Rishton where it had a leak.
Looks quite a bad one with a big stretch totally empty. Anyone local, know if there's any damage done with all that water escaping?
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:03 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:09 pm
by Somethingfishy
Apparently..and fortunately.. the majority of the water has flowed into Hyndburn Brook.
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:10 pm
by elwaclaret
There is a lot of work being done on the Accrington side of the canal bridge at Hapton to fix the leak… looking at the amount of money and kit being thrown at it one can only assume the emptying of the canal was managed not natural in order for them to get to the problem.
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:10 pm
by NickBFC
https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire- ... s-21831229
Some more details there, sounds like a lucky escape. 40 mile stretch empty apparently!?
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:11 pm
by Transpennine
Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:00 pm
Just seen a picture of the canal over at Accy/Rishton where it had a leak.
Looks quite a bad one with a big stretch totally empty. Anyone local, know if there's any damage done with all that water escaping?
Theres no real damage apart from to the canal bank. The breach is near the Hyndburn Brook river so all the water has run straight into there. Lucky really. Although the fish might disagree....
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:17 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Be a good time to get the machines in though and clear all the crap.
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:54 pm
by ŽižkovClaret
Are we sure it wasn't just a really thirsty horse?
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:14 pm
by elwaclaret
ŽižkovClaret wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:54 pm
Are we sure it wasn't just a really thirsty horse?
Nay
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:40 pm
by claret wizard
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:16 pm
by Leisure
There's water in the canal at the High Street bridge in Rishton.
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:00 pm
by Quickenthetempo
I just went for a look on my bike, but only got to the bridge above Altham industrial estate where they have shut the towpath off.
They have built a temporary bridge out of scaffolding to pump concrete accross to the other side.
There was water in but a couple of feet lower than normal all the way back to Gannow tunnel.
Unfortunately all the litter is now on show that has been dumped in it. Especially at the west side of the gannow tunnel.
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:16 pm
by Juan Tanamera
Not one shopping trolley to seen.
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:32 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Juan Tanamera wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:16 pm
Not one shopping trolley to seen.
There was 2 trolleys dumped in next to the entrance of the tunnel. Kids must love riding down the ramp in them then dumping them in the water.
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:25 pm
by clansman
The bank gave way between bridge 109 and 110. A culvert under the canal gave way sand the bank burst. Fish rescue team did save a lot. Environment agency monitoring the streams and river hubs urn. Canal obviously responsibility of canal and rivers trust. Coffee dams in place and water from Rishton red topping up canal but a lot of water required.
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:26 pm
by clansman
So many spelling mistakes due to predictive texting and fat fingers on I phone!
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:28 pm
by Quickenthetempo
clansman wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:25 pm
The bank gave way between bridge 109 and 110. A culvert under the canal gave way sand the bank burst. Fish rescue team did save a lot. Environment agency monitoring the streams and river hubs urn. Canal obviously responsibility of canal and rivers trust. Coffee dams in place and water from Rishton red topping up canal but a lot of water required.
So are they topping the canal up now or draining it completely to complete works.
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:29 pm
by bobinho
Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:17 pm
Be a good time to get the machines in though and clear all the crap.
Entirely possible they will leave it be, then in a couple of months dam it, drain it then clean it out….
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:16 pm
by Leisure
clansman wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:26 pm
So many spelling mistakes due to predictive texting and fat fingers on I phone!
Nick - Or you just can't spell!
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:55 pm
by Local cricketer
Bloody hell was going to sail my barge into rishton tomorrow. Will head the other way instead
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:45 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Local cricketer wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:55 pm
Bloody hell was going to sail my barge into rishton tomorrow. Will head the other way instead
2 weeks sailing, wind assisted, could see you meet up with Devils Advocate in Leeds.
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:03 pm
by Local cricketer
Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:45 pm
2 weeks sailing, wind assisted, could see you meet up with Devils Advocate in Leeds.
Think I will get it moved to the ship canal then
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:32 pm
by aggi
Well this is going to make things easier for Brian Laws
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:34 pm
by LawsCanalJump
Cheers for the heads up, ill head down in the morning
More of a skip then a jump
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:11 am
by bfcjg
I hope it's fixed and filled before the City game so the Accy Clarets can have their pre journey wash
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Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:20 am
by The Enclosure
Hope Redbeard's galleon isn't stranded outside Padiham.!
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:16 am
by dandeclaret
An essential first step in the development of Den Perry’s transport hub at the culvert….. the Monaco style Marina and helipads will be here before you know it.
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:48 pm
by Lowbankclaret
A friend of mine has a Narrowboat on the LL canal. A big problem is the CRT have lost the plot with their priorities. They have millions on improvements to the tow paths to benefit people who pay nothing towards the Canals. They have done this to the detriment of the canal itself as they got rid of dredging boats etc and have not been doing preventative maintenance. Add to this it was decided to let the sides of the canal to silt up to benefit invertebrates and other wildlife.
A month or so ago a wall collapsed in a lock at Gargrave with CRT saying it would be next year before the canal was going to be open, my friend is now stuck on the other side of Gargrave and normally winters in and around Burnley, buts that not happening this year.
Add to that a barge with materials Fix Gargrave lock was the other side of the breach and now cannot get materials there to fix the lock.
Add to that the 4 main reservoirs used to fill the Canal are very empty, Foulridge lower is at 40% capacity, upper is higher but it’s smaller. Not sure about whitemoor and slipper hill. But they are both smaller as well.
People I have spoken to think it might be Easter next year before the Canal is navigable again, that might be an over estimate but it will certainly not be open till next year.
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:48 pm
by Jakubclaret
Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:48 pm
A friend of mine has a Narrowboat on the LL canal. A big problem is the CRT have lost the plot with their priorities. They have millions on improvements to the tow paths to benefit people who pay nothing towards the Canals. They have done this to the detriment of the canal itself as they got rid of dredging boats etc and have not been doing preventative maintenance. Add to this it was decided to let the sides of the canal to silt up to benefit invertebrates and other wildlife.
A month or so ago a wall collapsed in a lock at Gargrave with CRT saying it would be next year before the canal was going to be open, my friend is now stuck on the other side of Gargrave and normally winters in and around Burnley, buts that not happening this year.
Add to that a barge with materials Fix Gargrave lock was the other side of the breach and now cannot get materials there to fix the lock.
Add to that the 4 main reservoirs used to fill the Canal are very empty, Foulridge lower is at 40% capacity, upper is higher but it’s smaller. Not sure about whitemoor and slipper hill. But they are both smaller as well.
People I have spoken to think it might be Easter next year before the Canal is navigable again, that might be an over estimate but it will certainly not be open till next year.
The majority of the barges moored up face the towpath I don’t see how not improving the towpath won’t benefit people who reside on the canal, surely towpath improvements benefits everybody including the anglers as well, it’s more likely the barge people & anglers will be the 1s lugging shopping/fishing apparatus, I understand the argument mums pushing prams & cyclists don’t contribute will also benefit, it’s not something you can select & exclude everybody will benefit because that’s the main walkway you can’t get around it any other way.
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:54 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Is it so hard to keep both canal and footpath up to a decent standard?
Where does the money come from? Tax payers or mooring fees etc..?
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:56 pm
by Jakubclaret
A combination you can donate to the CRT, mooring fees will bring the most revenue.
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:29 pm
by Lowbankclaret
Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:54 pm
Is it so hard to keep both canal and footpath up to a decent standard?
Where does the money come from? Tax payers or mooring fees etc..?
CRT charge boats by length, but your looking at around £1000 per year just to have your boat in the Canal. Then if you have a permanent mooring somewhere that’s going to cost you around £1500 per year . The person who owns the mooring then pays large fees to CRT.
I believe they did get some grants for putting towards the towpaths, so that would be tax payers.
I suppose the point is that if it becomes un navigable the boats will go elsewhere and then both the Canal and the towpaths will go into disrepair.
People live aboard their boats all year round, they need to be able to get about to get to services to empty the toilet, fill with diesel and get coal and gas etc. Lots of them don’t own cars and tend to do it as a method of cheap living because they don’t have the money to live say in a house.
Re: Canal empty at Accy/Rishton
Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:38 pm
by Leisure
Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:54 pm
Is it so hard to keep both canal and footpath up to a decent standard?
Where does the money come from? Tax payers or mooring fees etc..?
Not an easy task. The Leeds - Liverpool canal is 127 miles long. Even with the best maintenance in the world
, it's inevitable that unforseen damage/breaches of the banking may occur at any time/place.
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