After SD's presser, what do you think he'll do with the team? change of formation?

POPE

LOWTS TARKS COLLINS TAYLOR/PIETERS

DWIGHT BROWNHILL WESTY CORNET

J ROD WOOD


I'm guessing Vyds won't be risked, I'm guessing Taylor probs wont either.

Can't see Cornet starting.

Lets assume Vydra, Taylor and Mee still unfit, then ideal time to go 5 across the middle

Pope
Lowton Collins Tarks Pieters
Cornet Westwood Brownhill Cork McNeil
Wood

Cornet MUST start as he was fit enough to travel to the Ivory Coast and has scored 4 against Man City. Roberts to be on bench and replace either McNeil or Cornet (depending on who is playing worse) early second half.If we need to chase game JR to come on too at expense of our worst performing CM

warksclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:53 pm

Cornet MUST start as he was fit enough to travel to the Ivory Coast and has scored 4 against Man City.

He was required to travel but didn't play when he got there although Dyche has said he's trained today.

First choice is a Bricklayer to fill the goals up .

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:12 pm

He was required to travel but didn't play when he got there although Dyche has said he's trained today.

If he has trained today thats a big plus

warksclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:53 pm

Lets assume Vydra, Taylor and Mee still unfit, then ideal time to go 5 across the middle

Pope
Lowton Collins Tarks Pieters
Cornet Westwood Brownhill Cork McNeil
Wood

Cornet MUST start as he was fit enough to travel to the Ivory Coast and has scored 4 against Man City. Roberts to be on bench and replace either McNeil or Cornet (depending on who is playing worse) early second half.If we need to chase game JR to come on too at expense of our worst performing CM

Again the UTC obsession with playing a player out of position strikes! We love a square peg in a round hole.

Let’s have Roberts at right back first and take it from there.

Wood desperately needed a break before playing 2 more NZ games and traveling god knows how many miles. Would certainly give him a break.

Hennessey
Lowton Tarky Collins Pieters
Brownhill Westwood Cork McNeil
Barnes Wood

Pope has been terrible all season. We brought a decent back up in and now is the time to use him.

I’d play Brownhill on the right just to accommodate him we need his engine in a game like this.

I’d leave Cornet out don’t want him getting injured in a game we have no chance of winning. Save him for Southampton.

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:21 pm

Again the UTC obsession with playing a player out of position strikes! We love a square peg in a round hole.

Let’s have Roberts at right back first and take it from there.

And likewise the UTC obsession in "lets demotivate a new player". Roberts can play wide, end of. He played there both as full back and wide midfield for Swansea. If he has watched some of the woeful performances put in by JBG and Lennon this season, and doesn't get a chance soon, he will be asking himself if he has joined the right club, particularly with 3 points this season from 21.There is no one in my proposed line up out of position

I saw the difference when we started with Cornet-have seen enough of this guy to suggest he needs to be involved, and confident he will have an impact

Hennessey
Bardsley long Collins Pieters
Mancini Helm Brownhill
Gudmundsson Barnes Lennon

I'm sticking with last week's suggestion: Line up the whole squad and pick the eleven tallest, then lay four flat on the goal line, 6 shoulder to shoulder 1/2 yard further forward and Nick Pope as our lone 'striker' a yard ahead of them; sorted

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:34 pm

Hennessey
Bardsley long Collins Pieters
Mancini Helm Brownhill
Gudmundsson Barnes Lennon

And 10 more in our goals against column?

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:57 pm

And 10 more in our goals against column?

I am more concerned about keeping our star players fit. We will most likely concede 5-6 regardless

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:07 pm

I am more concerned about keeping our star players fit. We will most likely concede 5-6 regardless

Does that old rule about having to put out what may be seen as your most competitive (best?) side still exist?

warksclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:26 pm

And likewise the UTC obsession in "lets demotivate a new player". Roberts can play wide, end of. He played there both as full back and wide midfield for Swansea. If he has watched some of the woeful performances put in by JBG and Lennon this season, and doesn't get a chance soon, he will be asking himself if he has joined the right club, particularly with 3 points this season from 21.There is no one in my proposed line up out of position

I saw the difference when we started with Cornet-have seen enough of this guy to suggest he needs to be involved, and confident he will have an impact

Eh? What are you wittering about? Why not just start him at right back instead of Lowton? If I was Roberts and I’d watched Lowton against Norwich I’d be thinking that’s my spot. He was dire.

Training from today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-bso7xOjvw

Spijed wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:20 pm

Training from today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-bso7xOjvw

On the club site it says that video is from the 12th

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:09 pm

Does that old rule about having to put out what may be seen as your most competitive (best?) side still exist?

I’m not sure tbh. I think City away is the only fixture I would consider doing something like that.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:30 pm

I’m not sure tbh. I think City away is the only fixture I would consider doing something like that.

It be our lot to get beaten 10-0 and then get a massive fine and points deduction

I posted a few minutes ago - that Mee has COVID - 17 viewed it then it disappeared - source BBC - what is the problem?

WilmslowClaret wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:48 pm

I posted a few minutes ago - that Mee has COVID - 17 viewed it then it disappeared - source BBC - what is the problem?

Yes, I've seen it there, with his picture. It's no secret.

This but JBG for Cornet if we aren’t going to risk him.

Pope
Roberts Collins Tarks Pieters
Cornet Brownhill Westwood McNeil
Vydra Wood

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:34 pm

Hennessey
Bardsley long Collins Pieters
Mancini Helm Brownhill
Gudmundsson Barnes Lennon

What a defeatist attitude,wouldn't like to be in the trenches with you,field our strongest side and give it a go,we have beaten them before and we will beat them again...so why not start on Saturday ...UTC

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:03 pm

What a defeatist attitude,wouldn't like to be in the trenches with you,field our strongest side and give it a go,we have beaten them before and we will beat them again...so why not start on Saturday ...UTC

As long pep is at City I can’t see how we even keep it below conceding 3.

We have bigger fish to fry with Southampton and Brentford let’s rest our best players and target them for a big 6 points

WilmslowClaret wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:48 pm

I posted a few minutes ago - that Mee has COVID - 17 viewed it then it disappeared - source BBC - what is the problem?

There is probably an article being written so it can be put on here "Officially" I wouldn't worry

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:05 pm

As long pep is at City I can’t see how we even keep it below conceding 3.

We have bigger fish to fry with Southampton and Brentford let’s rest our best players and target them for a big 6 points

That will be a no from me,Southampton got a point off City,so if our relegation rival can...so can we,no one is beaten before they kick off,we'll in your mind they are!

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:34 pm

Hennessey
Bardsley long Collins Pieters
Mancini Helm Brownhill
Gudmundsson Barnes Lennon

This is so ridiculous I originally assumed it wasn't serious. Obviously not.

taio wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:10 pm

This is so ridiculous I originally assumed it wasn't serious. Obviously not.

My strongest eleven is

Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
McNeil Cork Westwood Cornet
Vydra Wood

I just don’t see the merit in sending this team out for another moral sapping 5-0 loss. Would rather rest them and get them up for Southampton and Brentford

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:21 pm

Again the UTC obsession with playing a player out of position strikes! We love a square peg in a round hole.

Let’s have Roberts at right back first and take it from there.

Absolutely. Our board is full of Southgates…

We MUST put out our strongest team, at the end of the season we might survive/get relegated depending on goal difference.

Fully agree. Too many of our fans throw the towel in. A huge challenge but we beat United and Liverpool in their backyards in the last couple of seasons. All I want is that the "best" players start for us. A lot of the City players have had a couple of tough games as well as the travelling and maybe they will not put out their best team. We must play Cornet who has scored 4 goals against them.I suspect all 4 of our strikers combined get nothing close to this. Just dont agree with this rubbish about saving our key players for Southampton. Cornet needs to play as many minutes as his fitness permits

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:34 pm

My strongest eleven is

Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
McNeil Cork Westwood Cornet
Vydra Wood

I just don’t see the merit in sending this team out for another moral sapping 5-0 loss. Would rather rest them and get them up for Southampton and Brentford

I don't see the merit in playing a team that would inevitably be detrimental to the result, demonstrate such defeatism, breach premier league rules and cause reputational damage.

taio wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:48 pm

I don't see the merit in playing a team that would inevitably be detrimental to the result, demonstrate such defeatism, breach premier league rules and cause reputational damage.

Fair enough, I just think all it takes is for us to lose 2 key players to injury and relegation is all but confirmed

The more pressing issue for me is the team v Southampton, and the fact that dyche has already used he's favourite term, touch and go in the case of vydra and Taylor. For Saturday wood really does need a break, and to give his head a wobble, he's just looked way off the last few games, yet he'll be in the starting 11 on Saturday.

WilmslowClaret wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:48 pm

I posted a few minutes ago - that Mee has COVID - 17 viewed it then it disappeared - source BBC - what is the problem?

Vyds also out with injury picked up in the International? According to social mee-dia... but Cornet should be available

I know he may have COVID, but has Mee had both Covid jabs ??.If not how do we feel about that ??. He is paid handsomely by our club, my opinion is that it should be automatic for the player to have been fully vaccinated, yet I am hearing a high percentage of footballers have not had the vaccines

Pope
Lowts Tarks Collins Pieters (Mahrez has had Charlie on toast on our last couple of visits there, so Pieters surely can't fare any worse, and Taylor really could do with a break after a tough first couple of months to his season.

Cornet Brownhill Westwood Dwight

Jay Barnes (assuming Vydra isn't fit, and big Chris could also use a breather, especially after the amount of travelling he's done recently.

For me a bit of a blessing if Mee and Taylor are injured. Neither have had their best 7 games in the PL, and whilst not advocating either were dropped I hope that if both Collins and Pieters have very good games that they keep the shirt v Southampton

Our best team!

Pope
Lowts Collins Tarks pieters
McNeil Westwood brownhill cork Cornet
Wood


Vydra, Taylor, Mee rested/out. Bring Lennon on to keep maxwel fresh if we’ve already lost it at 60 mins but why not have a go from the start. City have been great at times but also poor in some games. They drew 0-0 with Southampton without creating anything. If we can catch them on a cold day and get our forwards into the game we could have a chance to get something from the game and really kick start our season.

conyoviejo wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:14 pm

First choice is a Bricklayer to fill the goals up .

Park the bus, preferably in front of the City goal !!

I'd go

Pope
Lowton Collins Tarks Pieters (Not risking CT if he isn't 100%)
JBG Westwood Brownhill Cork McNeil
JayRod

Pope
Lowts Collins Tarky Pieters
JBG Westy Brownhill Cornet
McNeil
Wood

ayrshireclaret83 wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:51 am

Pope
Lowts Collins Tarky Pieters
JBG Westy Brownhill Cornet
McNeil
Wood

This for me too.

With everyone quick to rest our better players for other games, it's worth remembering our players have joined us in the Premier league to play the big sides.

Cornet and Roberts will be desperate to play at City.

Iloveyoubrady wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:50 pm

Pope
Lowts Collins Tarks pieters
McNeil Westwood brownhill cork Cornet
Wood


Vydra, Taylor, Mee rested/out. Bring Lennon on to keep maxwel fresh if we’ve already lost it at 60 mins but why not have a go from the start. City have been great at times but also poor in some games. They drew 0-0 with Southampton without creating anything. If we can catch them on a cold day and get our forwards into the game we could have a chance to get something from the game and really kick start our season.

Agree with your team and comments. The only thing II might add is Roberts to come on early second half for either McNeil or Cornet, depending on how they are playing. As has been said-both Cornet & Roberts will want to play against City, and it means blooding Roberts too. Big thing for me is there will be no Aguero

I’d still like to see how we play with a three man central midfield with Brownhill playing just in front of Westwood and Cork. A 4-2-3-1 formation.

—————Westwood———Cork
McNeil—————Brownhill—————Cornet

This would leave us with only one ‘centre forward’ BUT because we have three in central midfield this gives McNeil and Cornet slightly less defensive responsibility and a bit more freedom to attack and support the centre forward.

At the end of the day ‘if we never try it we’ll never find out’.

Pope x 10 plus Collins to head in from set piece.