Cornet
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:49 pm
Why was he subbed?
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Re: Cornet
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:54 pm
Just comeback from injury, game was over, wrap him in cotton wool for winnable fixtures.
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:55 pm
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 9:59 pm
The game was certainly not over
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:13 pm
I'm fine with this. If we've any chance of staying up, we need our better players fit
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:30 pm
Technically no, it wasn't, but we were behind at City having created little, and he's back from a hamstring tweak, to say nothing of his travelling for international duty and the comparatively few training sessions he's had with us. All said and done, Dyche bringing him off when he did was hardly the crime of the century, I think. "But why travel for int. duty then?" one might ask. Answer: because he's fit. But probably just not 90 mins away at City on the back of an injury — fit. TBH I'd probably have done the same and I used to be decent at Football Manager™ back in the day.
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:34 pm
Rather lose 2-0 at City than lose Cornet for 3 months aggravating the injury he is coming back from ...
Bigger fish to fry as they say ... starting next week at St Marys
Bigger fish to fry as they say ... starting next week at St Marys
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:35 pm
game was over at 1-0? That's rubbish and you know it. When has a game ever been over at 1-0 after 56 mins.? Do you always give in that easily? Pathetic.
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:47 pm
More about balance of risk than defeatism.Silkyskills1 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:35 pmgame was over at 1-0? That's rubbish and you know it. When has a game ever been over at 1-0 after 56 mins.? Do you always give in that easily? Pathetic.
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:12 pm
No game is over at 1-0 obviously but I’d guess the plan was to give him an hour or so.
Tends to be then general “medical” time from coming back from an injury.
Anything between 55 and 65 can be fatal I’m told.
Tends to be then general “medical” time from coming back from an injury.
Anything between 55 and 65 can be fatal I’m told.
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:12 pm
Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:12 pmNo game is over at 1-0 obviously but I’d guess the plan was to give him an hour or so.
Tends to be then general “medical” time from coming back from an injury.
Anything other than between 55 and 65 can be fatal I’m told.
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:24 pm
Bordeauxclaret be like...
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Re: Cornet
Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:26 pm
Taxi from The Swan please. 
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:57 pm
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Posting a claim that "Anything other than between 55 and 65 can be fatal" !!
Then, quoting yourself suggests that someone should've left The Swan a lot earlier than nearly half eleven!!
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 1:19 pm
We lost so factually the game was over after 12 minutes. City away is a complete an utter write off for me, I'd rather we conceded the 3 points before the whistle was blown to avoid potential injuries. As posted above, we have bigger fish to fry.Silkyskills1 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:35 pmgame was over at 1-0? That's rubbish and you know it. When has a game ever been over at 1-0 after 56 mins.? Do you always give in that easily? Pathetic.
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 1:28 pm
I suspect he was knackered. He will still be getting up the pace of the premier league and also after international travel.
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:51 pm
Absolutely the right decision by Sean to sub him.
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:03 pm
Exactly! and the same posters complaining that he was subbed too early would have been bemoaning Sean's decision if he'd stayed on for another 15-20 minutes and then done his hammy, or suffered another injury.
The reality is Cornet is too important to risk bizarre as it may seem given he's only played a few games in a Burnley shirt, and if taking him off relatively early in a game we're unlikely to pick up a result in means we have more hope of collecting points in the 2 next fixtures I've got no probs with the gaffer making that call.
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:33 pm
He started which was positive of SD. I would have liked to have seen Roberts come on to replace him, as he can play wide right effectively. Couple of occasions yesterday where JBG got the ball wide right, near the byeline but had to check back to use his left foot, by which time the moment had passed.How often do we see this. I hope Roberts does not get disillusioned by lack of opportunities and poor performances by players on the right side. When Wales pick their next team he will be one of the first on their team sheettiger76 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:03 pmExactly! and the same posters complaining that he was subbed too early would have been bemoaning Sean's decision if he'd stayed on for another 15-20 minutes and then done his hammy, or suffered another injury.
The reality is Cornet is too important to risk bizarre as it may seem given he's only played a few games in a Burnley shirt, and if taking him off relatively early in a game we're unlikely to pick up a result in means we have more hope of collecting points in the 2 next fixtures I've got no probs with the gaffer making that call.
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:48 pm
Roberts will get his chance, and yes he could well do a shift wide right, he certainly tried to get himself forward whenever he could in his Wales appearances, and he looks to possess a decent delivery on him as well. So I've no doubt he'll quickly become a firm fans favourite.warksclaret wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 3:33 pmHe started which was positive of SD. I would have liked to have seen Roberts come on to replace him, as he can play wide right effectively. Couple of occasions yesterday where JBG got the ball wide right, near the byeline but had to check back to use his left foot, by which time the moment had passed.How often do we see this. I hope Roberts does not get disillusioned by lack of opportunities and poor performances by players on the right side. When Wales pick their next team he will be one of the first on their team sheet
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 4:23 pm
Was ok yesterday. Liked the way he started in a free roaming position but when dyche decided he wanted more defensive stability he slotted in at left midfield very well. It’s clear that when fully settled and firing with all of our other players on the same wavelength that he’ll get a lot of goals and assists. His movement is great, he’s quick, and he’s a good technical player as well. And it is that threat that will push teams back, giving us a better chance of creating from midfield and also a threat when defending a lead.
Seems obvious that dyche wanted to protect him and sees him as highly important for next week.
Seems obvious that dyche wanted to protect him and sees him as highly important for next week.
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:19 pm
I found it interesting that Cornet was on average our most advanced player yesterday.
Maybe Dyche sees him as the long term partner for Wood?
Maybe Dyche sees him as the long term partner for Wood?
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:22 pm
He said after the game that he looked much more settled when he was on the left. Seemed Dyche actually had options to change formation in the game which is intriguing.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:19 pmI found it interesting that Cornet was on average our most advanced player yesterday.
Maybe Dyche sees him as the long term partner for Wood?
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:24 pm
Interesting, I actually thought he looked better off Wood.Iloveyoubrady wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:22 pmHe said after the game that he looked much more settled when he was on the left. Seemed Dyche actually had options to change formation in the game which is intriguing.
I would love to see Cornet, Gudmundsson and McNeil play in a interchangeable three behind wood
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:34 pm
I agree. Particularly against lesser teams when we have more of the ball, those 3 behind a striker are very good footballers. Although Vydra is also a very good option so he probably relaxes gudmundsson. Either way, they are very good options.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:24 pmInteresting, I actually thought he looked better off Wood.
I would love to see Cornet, Gudmundsson and McNeil play in a interchangeable three behind wood
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:40 pm
Which weaker teams exactly would allow for that? We’d be trounced by everyone.
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:58 pm
Well anyone outside the top six. Why would we be trounced by everyone. It would offer the same defensive shape off the ball with the two wingers dropping back into the two banks of 4...elwaclaret wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:40 pmWhich weaker teams exactly would allow for that? We’d be trounced by everyone.
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:13 pm
How do you co-ordinate defensive duties with three attack minded players there would be oceans of room in midfield every time we lose the ball… if their fluid who is do what when, who decides? Who takes presidency? Who falls back? Do the defenders push up perminantly push up to the half way line? I could go on….Iloveyoubrady wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:58 pmWell anyone outside the top six. Why would we be trounced by everyone. It would offer the same defensive shape off the ball with the two wingers dropping back into the two banks of 4...
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:40 pm
Not that complicated. We play a 442. From a 4231 to get the same defensive solidarity the two wide players in the 3 go back into the shape. It’s what we did against city when brownhill played behind wood. Realistically 451, 4231, 4411, 433 are very similar depending on defensive duties.elwaclaret wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:13 pmHow do you co-ordinate defensive duties with three attack minded players there would be oceans of room in midfield every time we lose the ball… if their fluid who is do what when, who decides? Who takes presidency? Who falls back? Do the defenders push up perminantly push up to the half way line? I could go on….
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:15 pm
Dyche has said now that he was always taking him off after an hour. No injury. No worries.
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:17 pm
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:23 pm
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:25 pm
Was trying to remember where I'd heard that one before
... Cheers elwaclaret 
Re: Cornet
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:39 pm
According to Chris Boden he could potentially be unavailable from 30th December.
Re: Cornet
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:43 pm
Re: Cornet
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:51 pm
Re: Cornet
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:55 pm
Re: Cornet
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:57 pm
Should have scored though haha
Re: Cornet
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:59 pm
Re: Cornet
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:47 pm
Isn't Wood away with NZ for a big chunk of January as well?
Re: Cornet
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:51 pm
Will he be playing up front tomorrow?
Roberts on the right?
Roberts on the right?
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:16 am
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:17 am
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:05 am
If he's start to this season is anything to go by, I would hope that wood is absolutely not long term, he's been absolute garbage, lots of people will disagree I know, while at Leeds and scoring 29 goals most of them came from through balls from midfield, and some from penalties, plus in the championship. As a team under dyche we don't play through balls and players that could play that way seem to have lost the ability under dyche, there could be numerous other reasons as I'm sure some will point out, but the fact is right now he's not doing what he's there for, and we have to remember he's only as good as he's last game, but summing up I sure hope he's not long term.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:19 pmI found it interesting that Cornet was on average our most advanced player yesterday.
Maybe Dyche sees him as the long term partner for Wood?
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:42 am
He blows a bit hot and cold with his form, and at the moment looks weary, probably from all the extra games and travel he’s clocked up with NZ. But he’s been our top scorer every season since he came hasn’t he? Baffling comment.alwaysaclaret wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:05 amIf he's start to this season is anything to go by, I would hope that wood is absolutely not long term, he's been absolute garbage, lots of people will disagree I know, while at Leeds and scoring 29 goals most of them came from through balls from midfield, and some from penalties, plus in the championship. As a team under dyche we don't play through balls and players that could play that way seem to have lost the ability under dyche, there could be numerous other reasons as I'm sure some will point out, but the fact is right now he's not doing what he's there for, and we have to remember he's only as good as he's last game, but summing up I sure hope he's not long term.
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:00 am
All goal scorers go through barren spells - he’ll get through it, hopefully this afternoon
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:29 pm
Cornet is a very talented lad, but I cant figure out what his position is. While we were researching him in the transfer thread, he had played as a forward, right winger, left winger, and the his last position at left back, ideally we would want him as a winger but going of his matches for us, he doesn't track back, and I cant work out if that's because he doesn't have the engine to do it, or he doesn't want to do it, but which ever 1 it is, he cant play like that for us as a winger. Or is it because Dyche has seen something in him and wants him to play up top, in which case we need another winger. and stop laying Dwight on the right, his best position is on the left. 2 good goals today but every time we lost the ball he went missing which is frustrating as he has so much promise.
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:34 pm
What is clear is that he needs to be in the starting eleven because it looks likely that he will pose our biggest goal threat. I’m not sure how exactly we do that but from what I’ve seen of him I think I’d be looking at a 4-4-1-1 with Cornet playing off Wood. Unfortunately that takes us back to where we were in the wide positions, still needing an upgrade on the right.
A 4-3-3 with Mcneil and Cornet flanking Wood looks good on paper, but our full backs play so narrow that we would be totally exposed on the wings.
A 4-3-3 with Mcneil and Cornet flanking Wood looks good on paper, but our full backs play so narrow that we would be totally exposed on the wings.
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:35 pm
I originally suggested he play up front alongside Wood (and I got considerable stick for suggesting that), I was wrong, we need to play him up front alongside Vydra.
Re: Cornet
Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:36 pm
Indeed we need to find his best position. Great talent to have though. I thought he actually tracked back quite a lot but often got into a slightly wrong position too narrow. It may take time for him to be fully ready to play winger in a 442 so in the mean time I’d imagine we’ll play 451 or play him up front. 451 with brownhill actually in midfield and then able to move out wide when cornet makes his runs. It’s difficult because his runs in behind are so dangerous as dyche has said himself so you don’t want him to stop that but you need a bit more defensive stability.ClaretAL wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:29 pmCornet is a very talented lad, but I cant figure out what his position is. While we were researching him in the transfer thread, he had played as a forward, right winger, left winger, and the his last position at left back, ideally we would want him as a winger but going of his matches for us, he doesn't track back, and I cant work out if that's because he doesn't have the engine to do it, or he doesn't want to do it, but which ever 1 it is, he cant play like that for us as a winger. Or is it because Dyche has seen something in him and wants him to play up top, in which case we need another winger. and stop laying Dwight on the right, his best position is on the left. 2 good goals today but every time we lost the ball he went missing which is frustrating as he has so much promise.