• Crystal Palace's Banner

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:00 am**

free speech...nothing to debate.

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:26 am**

As far as banners go that's class. Richard Masters clutching the pride flag in one hand and doing a thumbs up with another is just **chef's kiss**

Well done Palace fans.

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:38 am**

fantastic and spot on

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:48 am**

Of course the police are now involved.

Croydon Metropolitan Police have released a statement on Twitter, which says: "On Saturday 23 October police received a report of an offensive banner displayed by Crystal Palace fans.

"Officers are assessing the information and carrying out enquiries. Any allegations of racist abuse will be taken very seriously."

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59025887

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:08 am**

Has this guy actually been proven to do these things? Or is it the perception of the guy?

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:26 am**

Unfortunately we have a dubious relationship with SA as we supply them with arms and they supply us with oil, so Governments in this Country don't want to "rock the boat" so to speak.. never the less a very relevant banner.

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:49 am**

Fair play.

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:39 am**

Well done to Palace fans for having the cajones to express their opinion /free speech. It's a valid opinion IMO given the death of Jamal Khashoggi in the Saudi consulate in Turkey.
Wonderful that the Met has time to investigate this given the rising violence rates in London and the huge number of unsolved crimes (and all the ongoing investigations into its own officers).

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:47 am**

Great banner. Love it!

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:50 am**

The magpie looks more like a penguin.

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:50 am**

Great work

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:58 am**

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:12 am**

All factual and I for one will donate to a “go fund me” for any legal fees should anyone be charged by the Police

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:17 am**

To be fair, there have been plenty of examples of people “passing” the test only for it to become apparent that they shouldn’t have.

This however seems to be the extreme. As stated by keadbelly, you’d think the met would have other priorities….

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:19 am**

As said above free speech ( whether you agree with it or not) and against a regime. It’s difficult to see where the racism element is from the banner alone that the police are investigating.

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:19 am**

The police won't get too involved in this..quite rightly.

Football at the top really is a cess pit now.

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:24 am**

The police will investigate because it has been reported. But it would have been best for them to issue a very swift and brief statement upon receiving the complaint saying they won't be considering it any further.

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:33 am**

Perhaps players who are keen to support the Anti Racist anti hobophobic alleged agenda of the Premier league will think twice about signing for this clearly tainted club

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:36 am**

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:33 am
Perhaps players who are keen to support the Anti Racist anti hobophobic alleged agenda of the Premier league will think twice about signing for this clearly tainted club

Won’t happen as they are all quite happy to play a World Cup in a country where it is actually illegal to be homosexual

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:37 am**

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:33 am
Perhaps players who are keen to support the Anti Racist anti hobophobic alleged agenda of the Premier league will think twice about signing for this clearly tainted club

I love the idea of hobophobia.

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:20 am**

No time for the Palace ultras normally (clearly bored stockbrokers and middle managers) but this is great, and I hope more opposition fans do this

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:39 am**

Perhaps the makers of the banner should put in on tee shirts they would make serious money
Our laws re free speech have been curtailed somewhat but telling the truth is not an offence

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:41 am**

Can’t imagine a criminal act has been committed. Guessing that displaying the banner will have broken stadium rules though but doubt the CPFC fans will care about that.

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:45 am**

I'll get the popcorn out if this ends up with a bunch of fans in court.

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:55 am**

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:37 am
I love the idea of hobophobia.

Gypsies Tramps & Thieves

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:15 am**

Bosscat wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:55 am
Gypsies Tramps & Thieves

All tramps are not thieves. There's your hobophobia right there. Homeless Lives Matter

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:31 am**

No comment.

Far too political for me and the dog

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:34 am**

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:37 am
I love the idea of hobophobia.

I've got a mate who was commonly called a Hobo-sexual, as in only dated so he had somewhere to live and he did that for years.

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:43 am**

Fog on the Tyne, eh?

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:52 am**

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:15 am
All tramps are not thieves. There's your hobophobia right there. Homeless Lives Matter

Tut tut tut Familycat twas a joke dear ... did you not get the reference ... perhaps this may help

https://youtu.be/TOSZwEwl_1Q

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:52 pm**

Bosscat wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:52 am
Tut tut tut Familycat twas a joke dear ... did you not get the reference ... perhaps this may help

https://youtu.be/TOSZwEwl_1Q

Recognising jokes clearly isn't one of your strong points either.

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:54 pm**

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:52 pm
Recognising jokes clearly isn't one of your strong points either.

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:58 pm**

Does this count as a cat fight?

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:20 pm**

LeadBelly wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:39 am
Well done to Palace fans for having the cajones to express their opinion /free speech. It's a valid opinion IMO given the death of Jamal Khashoggi in the Saudi consulate in Turkey.
Wonderful that the Met has time to investigate this given the rising violence rates in London and the huge number of unsolved crimes (and all the ongoing investigations into its own officers).

I do love how suddenly everyone values the life of Jamal Khashoggi

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:21 pm**

andyh wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:58 pm
Does this count as a cat fight?

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:21 pm**

Where’s the racist bit?

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:07 pm**

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:21 pm
Where’s the racist bit?

Presumably the depiction of the Arab

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:15 pm**

Money talks, David Beckham has allegedly been paid 10m to promote the Qatar world cup.

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:33 pm**

I don’t think this is racist or that a criminal act has been committed. However, there could be a civil action against those who put it up unless they are able to link the new owners to terrorism.

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:37 pm**

Holmeclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:33 pm
However, there could be a civil action against those who put it up.

If they do, I imagine there will be a crowdfund campaign to pay for any defence, and it won't be short of donations.

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:38 pm**

Stalbansclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:07 pm
Presumably the depiction of the Arab

I thought it was the depiction of a Magpie as a Penguin ... can't get more Racist than that ...

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:46 pm**

I think the law says something like - if someone thinks it is racist then it is racist.

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:55 pm**

Billy Balfour wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:37 pm
If they do, I imagine there will be a crowdfund campaign to pay for any defence, and it won't be short of donations.

I’m sure if I sued someone for calling me a terrorist, the same would happen. No surprises there.

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:01 pm**

HahaYeah wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:46 pm
I think the law says something like - if someone thinks it is racist then it is racist.

HaHaNo

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:03 pm**

You need evidence you can't go around slandering people even if you are pretty sure it's right, we all think that & the other about certain things but unless you can back up what you are saying it's wise to keep your gob shut. If the police prosecute them no sympathy from me.

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:04 pm**

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:03 pm
You need evidence you can't go around slandering people even if you are pretty sure it's right, we all think that & the other about certain things but unless you can back up what you are saying it's wise to keep your gob shut. If the police prosecute them no sympathy from me.

What's the difference then if someone turns up at a football match proclaiming ISIS or the Taliban are terrorists?

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:08 pm**

Spijed wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:04 pm
What's the difference then if someone turns up at a football match proclaiming ISIS or the Taliban are terrorists?

That's proved beyond reasonable doubt but you still need to back up what you are saying, some of us thought jimmy saville was a sex pest preying on kids all them years ago but you can't just say things without proof to back up what you are saying.

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:10 pm**

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:08 pm
That's proved beyond reasonable doubt but you still need to back up what you are saying, some of us thought jimmy saville was a sex pest preying on kids all them years ago but you can't just say things without proof to back up what you are saying.

For a start it's beyond reasonable doubt isn't it that the Saudi's behead people?

Posted: **Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:10 pm**

I was expecting this thread to have been blocked some time back, over sensitivity towards political correctness....that said, I'm good with free speech and additionally Panorama and other tv programme makers came up with some pretty solid evidence some time back. Unfortunately some people are pretty much untouchable.
Well done Palace fans.

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