Not sure if it's nepotism in the true sense of the word but for the 1st time ever i watched strictly on sat a show i thought was full of so called
celebrities, i asked my wife who a girl was and she replied that it was Gordon Ramsay's daughter, i may be wrong but a little help from daddy's
fame to get on the show perhaps.

The other one is Barney Walsh, comes across as a great lad but if not for his dad having the lead role in the larkins would he have ever got
near to landing a role most up and coming actors would love to have got?

Saturday night TV, eh. It's always been shite. Thank god for streaming services, going to the pub, or enjoying an Indian takeaway with a good bottle of wine while listening to a decent playlist. Makes it all worthwhile.

Maybe they've inhereted their parent's talents and drive. Via genetics, indoctrination or a mix of both.

One things for sure, nepotism is here to stay and it's a decent system. If you employ the son or daughter of somebody you trust you know there's a high chance they'll share the same qualities you admire in the parent.

Take our very own Dwight McNeil for example. OK, so he's in the first team because of his outstanding talent as a footballer. However, that's only part of the story. His commitment and application are part of his success too.

His Dad was an outstanding lower league footballer who picked up a number of 'player of the year' fan awards wherever he played. Obviously, his son has a bit more talent than the journeyman father but they both have the same level of dedication.

Keep it in the family, folks!

BigBreak
Gladiators
Casualty
Match of the Day (when it was good)


They just don’t do Saturday night tv anymore!

I've never watched "Strictly" but (for good or bad) its impossible not to see stories about it.

The lass in question has been in news stories recently because some (LBC) radio personality described her as chubby. She and lots of other people have reacted and the guy has found himself having to apologise.
I believe her chef/TV personality father is well known for swearing at/intimidating and slagging off people (incl fat-shaming). Not her fault of course but I wonder if she's confronted him about these tendencies.

Hate programmes with ‘celebs’ that aren’t celebs. I agree with the poster above that Saturday night TV on terrestrial TV is garbage. If I ever have to sit through any of that then my lifestyle will really have become desperately poor.

Plenty of examples where nepotism is kept in the hands of families with not so great talent, but perhaps some lucky cash in years past. Free market, best person for the job for me.

And I’d pick the best talent if they were superior to a family member any day of the week, which if you cast the net wide enough is usually going to be the case

Just a lot of infantile hooting and shrieking...Americanised pish full of plastic bimbos and out and out morons.... utterly unwatchable for anyone with a double digit IQ.

Couldn't give a shiny one who's on it as long as it's not me. Celebrity is probably now the tackiest word in our language.

Richard Dimbleby sons ... David, Jonathon and Nicholas ...

TV is full of children of older celebs/presenters etc ... Going back to Strictly ... Claudia Winkleman the daughter of journalist and presenter Eve Pollard ...

As for Bradley Walsh he is on everything and over exposure isn't great as people get bored very quickly of them...

It's always gone on, no big deal for me.
I don't watch the trashy TV shows that are filled with this lot though.

A good sprinkling of keyboard warriors here having a go at people for just having a go in life.
Also find it amusing to hear how people love to big themselves up by considering some programmes somehow "beneath them" and of course they never watch them but feel qualified to pour scorn on them and the people in them.

Definitely not good.

I remember Steve Cotterell bemoaning the state of our pitch, after it had been invaded by Nepotisms!

LeadBelly wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:38 pm

I've never watched "Strictly" but (for good or bad) its impossible not to see stories about it.

The lass in question has been in news stories recently because some (LBC) radio personality described her as chubby. She and lots of other people have reacted and the guy has found himself having to apologise.
I believe her chef/TV personality father is well known for swearing at/intimidating and slagging off people (incl fat-shaming). Not her fault of course but I wonder if she's confronted him about these tendencies.

The government sends out all sorts of leaflets and letters to children who are a pound or two overweight telling them they're fat and need to lose weight. There are frequent suggestions that fat people shouldn't get free medical treatment. How can the current society say that fat-shaming is wrong when barely a day goes by without some official policy encouraging it?

Terrier wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:47 pm

The other one is Barney Walsh, comes across as a great lad but if not for his dad having the lead role in the larkins would he have ever got
near to landing a role most up and coming actors would love to have got?

I actually quite like Barney Walsh and find he is incredibly talented in his own right as a musician I believe in the States. The series Breaking Dad, for me was a bit of TV gold....but then I am a saddo lol!

The great British public seem to have an almost endless appetite for even total z listers , hence why these shows like im a celeb , Big brother ( for yrs) , Strictly , Love Island etc etc are such huge hits . Personally I can’t abide any of em ,but as the cat said when it licked the dogs ars@ “ it’s all a matter of taste “

Brucie must be in his 90’s now ?

AlargeClaret wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:48 pm

The great British public seem to have an almost endless appetite for even total z listers , hence why these shows like im a celeb , Big brother ( for yrs) , Strictly , Love Island etc etc are such huge hits . Personally I can’t abide any of em ,but as the cat said when it licked the dogs ars@ “ it’s all a matter of taste “

Brucie must be in his 90’s now ?

Brucie who

The problem isn't watching stuff like this - it's avoiding it. BBC R5 and sometimes R4 will bang on about it, along with most of the press too, and then you get the BBC pushing Strictly before you watch the news or some other programme. Oh, and not to mention those who ask if you watch it, and then get all het-up when you tell them you think it's shite. Anyway, each to their own, but the way it's hyped up is beyond a joke. It's just a bunch of 'never heard of them before' poncing about on primetime TV.

dsr wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:40 pm

The government sends out all sorts of leaflets and letters to children who are a pound or two overweight telling them they're fat and need to lose weight. There are frequent suggestions that fat people shouldn't get free medical treatment. How can the current society say that fat-shaming is wrong when barely a day goes by without some official policy encouraging it?

Hmmmmmm, not sure the government has a policy of "shaming" fat people? See the end of this article for a very recent statement on fat people.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58996499

Of course, how could society stand by and not point out the dangers of being fat or obese when the outcomes are so well documented and clear?

AlargeClaret wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:48 pm

Brucie must be in his 90’s now ?

He would have been if he was still alive.

“Celebs” are absolutely desperate to remain relevant and will do absolutely anything to stay on the telly.

We aren’t far away from leaning which four ex-“celebs” are going to have their own series again next year after humiliating themselves on national telly every nite for a fortnite. Natural selection has already seen them fall by the wayside, and just because they eat worms and drink liquidised squirrel ******** for a few nites we have to put up with them having another crack at it.

Hardly any real talent out there. Not saying it doesn’t exist, it probably does but it’s being strangled by karaoke contests and by the likes of TV chefs suddenly becoming tv presenters.

I barely watch tv these days, I stick to the streaming services that give us so much good viewing with new and interesting box sets. I remember my ma and pa looking forward to Saturday nite tv…. They’d be turning in their graves with the shite served up at the moment.

LeadBelly wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:38 pm

I've never watched "Strictly" but (for good or bad) its impossible not to see stories about it.

The lass in question has been in news stories recently because some (LBC) radio personality described her as chubby. She and lots of other people have reacted and the guy has found himself having to apologise.
I believe her chef/TV personality father is well known for swearing at/intimidating and slagging off people (incl fat-shaming). Not her fault of course but I wonder if she's confronted him about these tendencies.

Absolutely This. It’s all well and good calling out that DJ for calling her chubby, but her dad is the biggest foul mouthed and insulting bully on the telly. If I was watching him on the tv and he called someone chubby I’d assume he was having a nite off from being the biggest two-hat in Britain.

Not saying she hasnt the right to demand an apology, she clearly has, but it’d be interesting to know how many times she’s challenged her old man for considerably worse insults to others.

There are many exceptional young actors but those who have ‘A’ list celebrity parent(s) do have a much easier route to fame. Their surname usually means immediate access to agents, castings and contacts.

Nepotism. From the Italian word nepotismo, meaning nephew. Catholic popes and bishops who had no offspring of their own due to a vow of chastity, would give favourable positions in the church to nephews.

Terrier wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:47 pm

…i may be wrong but a little help from daddy's
fame to get on the show perhaps.

She’s a TV presenter on CBBC. Yes maybe through her dad but so what? I’m sure others have got a job through their parents before.

Tall Paul wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:56 pm

He would have been if he was still alive.

So he is! I thought he’d gone into a “ Betty Hotpot” type role where you do the odd cameo etc . It’s longer than I thought since I’d watched it ! I know Angela Ripon’s still alive though !

Terrier wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:47 pm

Not sure if it's nepotism in the true sense of the word but for the 1st time ever i watched strictly on sat a show i thought was full of so called
celebrities, i asked my wife who a girl was and she replied that it was Gordon Ramsay's daughter, i may be wrong but a little help from daddy's
fame to get on the show perhaps.

The other one is Barney Walsh, comes across as a great lad but if not for his dad having the lead role in the larkins would he have ever got
near to landing a role most up and coming actors would love to have got?

Utterly ridiculous. Be even remotely related to a "celebrity" and you can "cash in". It would make my blood boil if only I could be bothered

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:25 pm

Definitely not good.

I remember Steve Cotterell bemoaning the state of our pitch, after it had been invaded by Nepotisms!

Nematodes. Probably related.

groove wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:06 pm

Nepotism. From the Italian word nepotismo, meaning nephew. Catholic popes and bishops who had no offspring of their own due to a vow of chastity, would give favourable positions in the church to nephews.

And to their secret illegitimate sons too.

fatboy47 wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:54 pm

Just a lot of infantile hooting and shrieking...Americanised pish full of plastic bimbos and out and out morons.... utterly unwatchable for anyone with a double digit IQ.

Couldn't give a shiny one who's on it as long as it's not me. Celebrity is probably now the tackiest word in our language.

I think you need to get off the fence and say what you really mean, if you don't like it says so

ClaretDiver wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:42 pm

I actually quite like Barney Walsh and find he is incredibly talented in his own right as a musician I believe in the States. The series Breaking Dad, for me was a bit of TV gold....but then I am a saddo lol!

Your not a saddo for watching something you enjoyed.

Tall Paul wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:56 pm

He would have been if he was still alive.

He meant Steve Bruce,now his football career over he's off on the reality show circuit

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:11 pm

He meant Steve Bruce,now his football career over he's off on the reality show circuit

Can just see your reaction when Bruce pulls on the sequinned top next Strictly season Steve

As mentioned above, she is a well known on kids tv for various programmes. My 9 yo daughter certainly knows and likes her. As strictly is family entertainment, it makes total sense to have a children's tv star on it

I’m not into the celebrity stuff that goes, especially people who are only famous for being famous, but some programmes are okay for light hearted laughs while I get drunk on Saturday night. I do watch Strictly. I don’t know why as I don’t particularly like ‘celebs’ or dancing but it’s harmless enough. I also watch I’m a Celebrity because it is genuinely funny at times. The others I give a swerve to. But what gets me on here is the ability of people to describe in detail how awful a programme is whilst in the same breath going to great lengths to deny watching it. Me thinks these people are either making judgments based on no experience or they are lying about watching it. I wonder which it is? Mmm!

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:15 pm

Can just see your reaction when Bruce pulls on the sequinned top next Strictly season Steve

And even more so when he takes it off again for Love Island!

I wonder how many on here criticising nepotism are supporters of the Royal Family? Hands up all Royalists who think a famous person’s offspring shouldn’t get a leg up.

Also put on a pair of celebrity shoes…would you deny your kids that help if you were famous. Thought not. It’s real easy to be critical when your on the outside looking in.

fatboy47 wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:54 pm

Just a lot of infantile hooting and shrieking...Americanised pish full of plastic bimbos and out and out morons.... utterly unwatchable for anyone with a double digit IQ.

Couldn't give a shiny one who's on it as long as it's not me. Celebrity is probably now the tackiest word in our language.

My wife, who is a Doctor of Clinical Psychology, amongst many other strings to her bow, loves low IQ programmes like this, as she can switch off from her very busy day job and watch something that she enjoys I think her IQ is slightly above double digits.

Think the problem on this thread is a load of middle aged men not realising that there are a lot of people with huge followings outside the sphere of middle aged men that can legitimately called celebrities.

chipbutty wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:34 pm

My wife, who is a Doctor of Clinical Psychology, amongst many other strings to her bow, loves low IQ programmes like this, as she can switch off from her very busy day job and watch something that she enjoys I think her IQ is slightly above double digits.

Well said. My youngest daughter is a highly intelligent individual who spends her working days as a social worker with seriously under privileged and abused kids. She can’t get enough of things like Love Island, Big brother, TOWIE and the like, all programmes I have never actually watched. When I have questioned the integrity of these programmes she just laughs and says ‘Not everyone is sixty-odd dad’. Touché.

martin_p wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:46 pm

Think the problem on this thread is a load of middle aged men not realising that there are a lot of people with huge followings outside the sphere of middle aged men that can legitimately called celebrities.

People have to move with the times. I still can’t get my head round people just being famous for nothing other than being famous but when you consider it these people have probably worked their backsides off to become famous. They have applied for countless TV shows and worked hard to get on those front pages, you don’t become famous by sitting on your arse hoping for the best. Does anyone genuinely believe Joey Essex is a ridiculously thick human being who thinks Hungary is next to Wales? He didn’t fall over fame by sitting watching football on telly all day, he went out and grabbed life by the b*ll*cks and went for it. I believe he is actually very clever (partly because I don’t think anyone is that thick).
I don’t like the obsession with celebrity but in the end my opinion isn’t worth a fig and better they be celebrities than sitting at home on the social.

Exactly. People have always been famous for nothing in particular, it’s not a modern phenomenon.

But some people like nothing more than to sneer at whatever they don’t like or understand.

fatboy47 wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:54 pm

Just a lot of infantile hooting and shrieking...Americanised pish full of plastic bimbos and out and out morons.... utterly unwatchable for anyone with a double digit IQ.

Not much different from men's football them.

Grown men chasing a ball with lots of infantile screaming and rolling on the floor pretending to be shot, throw in a bit of cheating on the pitch, the behaviour of fans and the behaviour of players off the pitch, and it's becoming unwatchable regardless of IQ size.

I didn’t realize that people still watch live tv other than for news or sport?

Max Bygraves' son, Anthony.

Max Bygraves' son, Anthony.

CaptainKirk wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:11 pm

A good sprinkling of keyboard warriors here having a go at people for just having a go in life.
Also find it amusing to hear how people love to big themselves up by considering some programmes somehow "beneath them" and of course they never watch them but feel qualified to pour scorn on them and the people in them.

This is a message board, "keyboard warriors" is a crass description. Also, how are your comments magically appearing on here to criticise the posters ? One would suspect the use of a keyboard is involved somewhere along the way.

odd posts for me, it almost comes across from many that they wouldn't help their children out in terms of jobs if they had the opportunity, it's not a program I watch, nor love island, actually am struggling to think of a single reality show I watch, but I don't watch all that much TV anyhow. I'd certainly help my children in anything given an opportunity though.

Wile E Coyote wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:35 pm

This is a message board, "keyboard warriors" is a crass description. Also, how are your comments magically appearing on here to criticise the posters ? One would suspect the use of a keyboard is involved somewhere along the way.

I had a well thought out response in mind but I know that is what you want so a simple "arse" will suffice.

houseboy wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:21 pm

I’m not into the celebrity stuff that goes, especially people who are only famous for being famous, but some programmes are okay for light hearted laughs while I get drunk on Saturday night. I do watch Strictly. I don’t know why as I don’t particularly like ‘celebs’ or dancing but it’s harmless enough. I also watch I’m a Celebrity because it is genuinely funny at times. The others I give a swerve to. But what gets me on here is the ability of people to describe in detail how awful a programme is whilst in the same breath going to great lengths to deny watching it. Me thinks these people are either making judgments based on no experience or they are lying about watching it. I wonder which it is? Mmm!

I have watched Strictly in the past, and it's harmless enough if you just want something to chill out to in the dark winter evenings, similar to I'm a Celebrity as long as you don't take them too seriously and just go with the flow, I avoid the rest of the so called reality TV as it's not my bag, but in this day and age with the amount of output available especially with the number of streaming services now, it really shouldn't be that hard to find programmes that whet your appetite whatever that maybe.

And for the old blighters who think telly was better in the 70's and 80's it really wasn't, yes there was plenty of classic programmes which have stood the test of time, however there was also a lot of dross televised in that era as well. and viewers back then didn't have anywhere near the choice that we enjoy now.

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:54 pm

I have watched Strictly in the past, and it's harmless enough if you just want something to chill out to in the dark winter evenings, similar to I'm a Celebrity as long as you don't take them too seriously and just go with the flow, I avoid the rest of the so called reality TV as it's not my bag, but in this day and age with the amount of output available especially with the number of streaming services now, it really shouldn't be that hard to find programmes that whet your appetite whatever that maybe.

And for the old blighters who think telly was better in the 70's and 80's it really wasn't, yes there was plenty of classic programmes which have stood the test of time, however there was also a lot of dross televised in that era as well. and viewers back then didn't have anywhere near the choice that we enjoy now.

Exactly this. As a kid we had two channels that started at about 4.40 in the evening and clocked off around midnight.The bewildering array of choice 24 hours a day now should mean something for everyone. It’s easy to take a swipe at the celebrity obsession, I’ve done it often enough in the past, but it’s only when you think about it that you realise that things could be a lot worse. My attitude is simply this, If you don’t like something don’t watch it, simples, but there’s no need to go to great lengths to attempt to be a TV ‘snob’ by putting stuff down that, in the end, millions of people enjoy. I cant stand Little Mix but it doesn’t stop them from being the biggest girl band in the world.