I'm sure I am not the only one on this board who is not enjoying this style of play!!
Athough it's been reasonably successful in previous seasons it's time for a change.
Have we the right type of Players ?
Is it time for a Management change?
Thoughts please
What needs to change?

Not another poorly disguised Dyche Out thread!

We need to buy Kieran Trippier and talk Steven Defour and Robbie Blake out of retirement

Not a disguised Dyche out thread!
just a change of style of footbal required.
Do you really enjoy what we are watching at the moment?

Not a disguised Dyche out thread!
just a change of style of footbal required.
Do you really enjoy what we are watching at the moment?

Bazer1882 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:43 am

Not a disguised Dyche out thread!
just a change of style of footbal required.
Do you really enjoy what we are watching at the moment?

Football (if you call it that) is painful to watch, hence I do something else now lol

A lot of it is driven by team selection and coaching. The lack of movement in particular from Rodriguez and Barnes, and now an increasing amount from Wood, makes the team think that we aim it hopefully up to our front two and lets hope for the knockdown. Sadly I cannot remember the last time we scored from this type of move. For Brentford I have suggested we start with Vydra and Cornet playing just behind him, with McNeil and Roberts wide with the instructions of getting it to the byline then drive it across the penalty area .If only s the lottery was as easy predicting as what Barnes & Rodriguez do in a game

A bit depressing, but with the addition of the Roberts long throw, we are now essentially Stoke

Its not great and I hope we can return to the more exciting but pragmatic football we are capable of as soon as possible

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:37 am

A bit depressing, but with the addition of the Roberts long throw, we are now essentially Stoke

Its not great and I hope we can return to the more exciting but pragmatic football we are capable of as soon as possible

You’re right we are capable of that. Brave decisions are needed by Sean now before it’s too late. I do suspect the OP never saw us in Division 4, nor has probably never heard of Division 4. He’d be having a moan then

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:37 am

A bit depressing, but with the addition of the Roberts long throw, we are now essentially Stoke

Its not great and I hope we can return to the more exciting but pragmatic football we are capable of as soon as possible

Long throw ins are seen as a viable tool, hence why a number of clubs have employed a specialist throw in coach to ensure they can get the maximum range.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:21 am

Long throw ins are seen as a viable tool, hence why a number of clubs have employed a specialist throw in coach to ensure they can get the maximum range.

True, but they tend to play a brand of football that is better than ours

We have morphed into Stoke under Pulis, and its not a good watch at all

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:21 am

Long throw ins are seen as a viable tool, hence why a number of clubs have employed a specialist throw in coach to ensure they can get the maximum range.

Which clubs employ a specialist throw in coach ?

joey13 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:27 am

Which clubs employ a specialist throw in coach ?

I've mentioned it before, but here's the link again.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/liverpool-e ... gronnemark

Utilising long throws is fine, but it can't become our main attacking plan, like it was in the second half last night.

warksclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:31 am

A lot of it is driven by team selection and coaching. The lack of movement in particular from Rodriguez and Barnes, and now an increasing amount from Wood, makes the team think that we aim it hopefully up to our front two and lets hope for the knockdown. Sadly I cannot remember the last time we scored from this type of move.

Cornet’s second at Southampton last weekend. Ball up to Wood, who laid it off to Westwood, who then knocked it to Cornet. The last goal we scored.

That said, I agree. It’s been desperate to watch at times for the last year.

I think as we became more desperate with time running out we were more inclined to use long balls. I doubt anybody would be keen to see us tip tapping it around the back four or trying to craft our way through midfield at that stage of the game.

I don’t believe our DNA is to be a long ball side as Stoke was. But there is no getting away from the fact that our strikers are lacking in confidence, we really need a win to give us more belief.

All that being said, Spurs had a very strong team and they handled us well albeit not exactly battering us.

If there is one thing we can take from last night it was that Pope seems to be getting back to his pre injury form. I thought he was outstanding last night.

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:25 am

True, but they tend to play a brand of football that is better than ours

We have morphed into Stoke under Pulis, and its not a good watch at all

We made an effort to get different players in this last summer to improve our style, AMN and Christie being the two we missed out on.

I suspect next couple of windows will see further efforts to do this again

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:48 am

We made an effort to get different players in this last summer to improve our style, AMN and Christie being the two we missed out on.

I suspect next couple of windows will see further efforts to do this again

I think we have to be in touch with safety to invest in Jan

Its not looking likely if we do not turn in the sort of performances that we've become used to

We pay a lot of money in wages for players and coaching staff to just launch it forward.

A 200 quid a week budget can play that sort of football.

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:25 am

True, but they tend to play a brand of football that is better than ours

We have morphed into Stoke under Pulis, and its not a good watch at all

Difference being pulis turned the britannia into a fortress teams didn't like going there because it was a difficult place to go & get a result in our case that's not the same.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:21 am

Long throw ins are seen as a viable tool, hence why a number of clubs have employed a specialist throw in coach to ensure they can get the maximum range.

Brentford were using it a lot against Leicester at the weekend

Long throws would seem to be the best chance of getting quality balls into the box at this stage.

The crossing this season from wingers and especially full backs has been rank.

Darthlaw wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:22 pm

Long throws would seem to be the best chance of getting quality balls into the box at this stage.

The crossing this season from wingers and especially full backs has been rank.

Roberts’ one was excellent, the same can’t be said about brownhills.

longsidetrumpet wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:15 am

You’re right we are capable of that. Brave decisions are needed by Sean now before it’s too late. I do suspect the OP never saw us in Division 4, nor has probably never heard of Division 4. He’d be having a moan then

I remember those days all too well. They were excruciating at times but I am long since done apologising for them. We don’t operate at that level anymore, and the football at the moment albeit turgid is light years ahead of what we witnessed then.

But accepting what we have now because it’s been a damn site worse is a recipe for disaster if you ask me…(I’m aware you didn’t) so I think changes are required. Not sure what they are though unlike most on here. What I do know tho, we need those that CAN make the changes to recognise that they are needed.

I realise the cup isn’t a priority, and I’m happy that we don’t have to worry about it anymore….we are never going to get near Wembley anyway, but the lack of almost everything last nite is a worry in itself. The team Spurs started with were there for the taking, but we didn’t want it. If these squad players are playing for a starting place, they are obviously not capable of the level of ability that is required to survive at this level.

longsidetrumpet wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:15 am

You’re right we are capable of that. Brave decisions are needed by Sean now before it’s too late. I do suspect the OP never saw us in Division 4, nor has probably never heard of Division 4. He’d be having a moan then

What the hell is Division 4??? I though after League Two you went into the National League and then it was all regional based

Agreed. Last night defenders and midfielders were hoofing it forward, seemingly without anyone in mind they were hitting it to, or for.
Actually Ben Mee was the only one I saw look up before playing a long pass.

Perhaps the fact we can't play 10 yard passes is the reason we have started concentrating on throws.
We looked unfit last night, the reaction time from Cork was painful and Brownhill doesn't seem to know what to do 'with' the ball so lumped it forward.

I was looking forward to Saturday before last night, I can't say I am now. Dyche will be totally reliant on Cornet and I can't see how anything else can change for the better. I'm very worried. We appear to have decided to play to the concept that we dont, or can't play football.

Didn't Alan Pace say he wanted Burnley to be everyone's favourite underdog when he first arrived?

How is he expecting neutrals to tune in and root for us when a good portion of our own fan base is finding that challenging at the moment?

longsidetrumpet wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:15 am

You’re right we are capable of that. Brave decisions are needed by Sean now before it’s too late. I do suspect the OP never saw us in Division 4, nor has probably never heard of Division 4. He’d be having a moan then

Wow! It was 30 years ago Burnley were in division 4! 30 years before that we were Champions (okay 31), why not compare us to that team, it's just as relevant. At the moment we are a Premier League team that is playing like a League 1/2 team in a cup game against a higher level team.

Hoofball highlights the lack of creativity in midfield so the sooner we fix the problem the better sadly Stephen’s not the answer

We need another like-


Steven Arnold Defour.

It's certainly hard to watch when the results aren't going our way. We'll see what Saturday brings.

HOOFBALL is still a million times better than COTTERBALL

Soon as the results dry up, it's completely unwatchable. Comes down to the coaching for me, it's the managers style and finance doesn't change that approach. We could've played all night and not scored yesterday, just hammering it forward non stop.

RingoMcCartney wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:40 pm

We need another like-


Steven Arnold Defour.

He's busy unfortunately

It’s be nice if we were switched on and looking for a quick opportunity when the ball goes out for a throw in. Instead we hang about for 30 seconds with the throw in taker pulling faces at this team mates for not showing.

Same goes for recycling from the goal keeper. Too much reliance on rigid framework and formation all the time.

Cornet may give us this option as he is new and hasn’t had it beaten out of him yet.

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:37 am

A bit depressing, but with the addition of the Roberts long throw, we are now essentially Stoke

Or possibly more like Cardiff.

And it didn't keep them up.

Bazer1882 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:26 am

I'm sure I am not the only one on this board who is not enjoying this style of play!!
Athough it's been reasonably successful in previous seasons it's time for a change.
Have we the right type of Players ?
Is it time for a Management change?
Thoughts please
What needs to change?

whether it's enjoyable or not, to start a thread with the word HOOFBALL is both nonsense and insulting.

ClaretEngineer wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:37 pm

It’s be nice if we were switched on and looking for a quick opportunity when the ball goes out for a throw in. Instead we hang about for 30 seconds with the throw in taker pulling faces at this team mates for not showing.

Same goes for recycling from the goal keeper. Too much reliance on rigid framework and formation all the time.

Cornet may give us this option as he is new and hasn’t had it beaten out of him yet.

I remember us taking a quick throw once - it was in the League Cup game v Arsenal in 2008.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:45 pm

whether it's enjoyable or not, to start a thread with the word HOOFBALL is both nonsense and insulting.

Only if you’re desperate to take offence at it.

Long may it continue!