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Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:54 pm
by basil6345789
Just had a mailshot from "brsk", offering to install fibre cabling for the last few yards, directly into the house.
Anybody know what's happening - surely BT themselves, as infrastructure owners, would be doing this?
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:55 pm
by HahaYeah
Presumably they are independent - like Virgin Media.
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:57 pm
by ClaretDiver
Lot of independent companies popping up now...
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:12 pm
by Bosscat
Well it will help to keep you Regular
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:26 pm
by ClaretTony
Had the same mail shot this morning
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:35 pm
by claretandy
They've already installed in Blackburn, have a look at the feedback, not good.
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:47 pm
by Billy Balfour
Ask yourself this, do you really need 100 or 500Mbps downloads at a cost of £33.00/£39.00 per month? At home, we get 75Mbps for £24/pm, and it's more than adequate from me, the missus and two kids. Different if you're running a business and downloading/uploading large files all day long.
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:26 pm
by beddie
Am I missing out here? This is what BT says we currently get.
“ Normal available speeds”
Your normal available download speed will be between 17-19 Mbps
Your normal available upload speed will be between 3-4 Mbps
“Minimum guaranteed download speed”
Your minimum guaranteed download speed will be 16 Mbps”
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:32 pm
by Ptgclaret
Really all depends on your personal needs.
If you only use the Internet for Facebook and browsing Web pages, like online shopping, this site etc you don't need high speeds at all. What you have their is plenty.
If you have a house that has someone streaming Netflix all day and kids on their consoles playing online, you'll need faster.
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:47 pm
by Bosscat
beddie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:26 pm
Am I missing out here? This is what BT says we currently get.
“ Normal available speeds”
Your normal available download speed will be between 17-19 Mbps
Your normal available upload speed will be between 3-4 Mbps
“Minimum guaranteed download speed”
Your minimum guaranteed download speed will be 16 Mbps”
Thats all we get Beddie ... I stream using my BT-TV OK @ those speeds
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:48 pm
by ClaretDiver
beddie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:26 pm
Am I missing out here? This is what BT says we currently get.
“ Normal available speeds”
Your normal available download speed will be between 17-19 Mbps
Your normal available upload speed will be between 3-4 Mbps
“Minimum guaranteed download speed”
Your minimum guaranteed download speed will be 16 Mbps”
Sounds like you may be on copper still with those speeds...not even FttC
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:49 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
If more people work from home, they'll need the better option
Fibre broadband is only from the green box to the house, but the newer housing estates are being built with the older style broadband cabling if I remember rightly, which is a bit of a con, but that's what happens when one company controls that part of the cabling installation.
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:50 pm
by Untinted Glasses
ClaretDiver wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:48 pm
Sounds like you may be on copper still with those speeds...not even FttC
Or just a long way from the main box. My Speeds are 14 DL and 0.7 UL and im on FttC
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:52 pm
by Untinted Glasses
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:49 pm
If more people work from home, they'll need the better option
Fibre broadband is only from the green box to the house, but the newer housing estates are being built with the older style broadband cabling if I remember rightly, which is a bit of a con, but that's what happens when one company controls that part of the cabling installation.
Thats wrong tbh. The fibre runs to the cabinet then its over to the copper wires to the house.
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:55 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Untinted Glasses wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:52 pm
Thats wrong tbh. The fibre runs to the cabinet then its over to the copper wires to the house.
I was told it's the opposite way round.
They boost the signal from the box down fibre cabling to the house to ensure they can get as close as possible to their promised speeds.
It's easier to install fibre from the boxes because it's less work required.
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:59 pm
by Untinted Glasses
Just googled it
FTTC (Fibre to the Cabinet) Is a mix of traditional copper wire and fibre optic cable. The fibre optic cable runs from an exchange or distribution point to roadside cabinets that you probably walk past every day. Once the fibre cable reaches the cabinet, it meets the copper wire that connects to your home or business.
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:00 pm
by Untinted Glasses
The other way round it would lose all its speed before it got to the box. Its fibre to the home thats the next step and that takes fibre cables from the box on the street to your home.
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:52 pm
by gandhisflipflop
Just out of interest. We may be moving to a new build soon. I want to know if they will be fitted with good broadband facilities. Who would I ask and how would I word the question?
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:00 pm
by clarethomer
The builder
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:05 pm
by dougcollins
Makes you regular.
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:14 pm
by Bosscat
dougcollins wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:05 pm
Makes you regular.
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Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:23 pm
by Claret3495
basil6345789 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:54 pm
Just had a mailshot from "brsk", offering to install fibre cabling for the last few yards, directly into the house.
Anybody know what's happening - surely BT themselves, as infrastructure owners, would be doing this?
BT own the infrastructure but now have to duct share to encourage the roll out of FTTP, amongst other things. Openreach are providing FTTP on the BT network but that work is usually in places they have labelled fibre cities, or going to the far end places that currently have the worst connection.
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:26 pm
by Claret3495
gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:52 pm
Just out of interest. We may be moving to a new build soon. I want to know if they will be fitted with good broadband facilities. Who would I ask and how would I word the question?
If it's over 30 new homes it should be there already, (see link:
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2 ... sites.html ). Check with the developer as well.
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:35 pm
by Untinted Glasses
gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:52 pm
Just out of interest. We may be moving to a new build soon. I want to know if they will be fitted with good broadband facilities. Who would I ask and how would I word the question?
Most new houses nowadays have fibre to the premises. I'd be surprised if you don't ( unless yoir out in the sticks)
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:15 am
by Goody1975
claretandy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:35 pm
They've already installed in Blackburn, have a look at the feedback, not good.
Are you sure you are not getting them mixed up with another provider?
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:54 am
by Backofthenet
Goody1975 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:15 am
Are you sure you are not getting them mixed up with another provider?
It's 6G in Blackburn, via the telegraph poles
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:24 am
by Billy Balfour
I think their entry-levels prices are too high once you're out of the discount period. To take on the big ISPs, they need to be price-matching while offering higher speeds.
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:28 am
by Bosscat
Backofthenet wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:54 am
It's 6G in Blackburn, via the telegraph poles
I thought it was 6 GG's in Blackburn
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:03 am
by Goody1975
Backofthenet wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:54 am
It's 6G in Blackburn, via the telegraph poles
Exactly
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:09 am
by Mala591
Those ugly giant telegraph poles are spreading around Burnley like wildfire.
If, like me, you don’t like them then refuse to consider the company who put them there - 6Ginternet - as a broadband supplier.
Re: Full Fibre Broadband
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:40 pm
by gandhisflipflop
Untinted Glasses wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:35 pm
Most new houses nowadays have fibre to the premises. I'd be surprised if you don't ( unless yoir out in the sticks)
Fair enough thanks
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