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RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:32 pm
by jdrobbo
John Brooks (Melton Mowbray) v Wolves
How to Score
A. Decision Making (including use of advantage) - out of 25
B. Consistency - out of 25
C. Fitness and Positioning - of 25
D. Control and Authority - out of 25
PLEASE ONLY SUBMIT RATINGS IF YOU ATTENDED THE GAME. THANK YOU!
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:38 pm
by DAVETHEVICAR
Watched on TV
Thought he was excellent
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:52 pm
by jdrobbo
Me too Dave. Very assured performance. Looked to communicate very clearly
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:58 pm
by Local cricketer
I had visions of coming on here saying I’d have preferred Harry Brooks but the lad did well in fairness
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:02 pm
by Cheshireclaret
I also watched on TV but thought he did very well indeed tonight - he wasn’t intimidated, took his time and seemed to communicate his decisions well. There were a couple of potential flashpoints that he dealt with well. Compared to Kevin Friend recently, he showed maturity and experience. I’d wager he’s played the game at a decent level.
If I’d have been told it was his 10th season as a top flight official I wouldn’t have been surprised. Actually I would, compared to a good number who have been officiating for at least that long and are frankly inept!
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:02 pm
by Rowls
Really think he should have sent Hee-Chan off tonight.
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:05 pm
by aclaretinstevenage
His first Premier League game. I thought he did well, there were a lot of experienced players - on both sides - trying to con him throughout the game but he didn't buy any of it!
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:10 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
Disappointed with how easily our players went over tonight. Quite a few times they themselves to the floor.
Ref did well.
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:18 pm
by burnley007
He gave us nothing tonight. Nothing.
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:20 pm
by Claret3495
How on earth did he give a foul against Rodriguez, when Saiss bust Rodriguez's nose?
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:22 pm
by NewClaret
Thought he had a very good game.
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:42 pm
by SalisburyClaret
Well he’s definitely a homer
12 some shockers
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15 just let the players paw him
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:46 pm
by Rileybobs
Certainly not in agreement with the majority. He ‘handled’ the game well, but he seemed to guess at a lot of 50/50 decisions which generally went against us. Rodriguez being a case in point. Let a lot of niggly little fouls go which added to an already frustrating watch.
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:00 pm
by CrosspoolClarets
Played it safe on debut and favoured the home side a bit too much and the defensive side a bit too much. Led to a frustrating game.
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:09 am
by NewClaret
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:46 pm
Certainly not in agreement with the majority. He ‘handled’ the game well, but he seemed to guess at a lot of 50/50 decisions which generally went against us. Rodriguez being a case in point. Let a lot of niggly little fouls go which added to an already frustrating watch.
Honestly thought that was a foul by JRod (albeit a weak one) before he was accidentally hit by an arm. Ref saw the blood after blowing up, so not sure he could change his mind on that basis.
I thought Lowts was lucky to get away with the clash given he forearm smashed him & then seemed to lunge in the aftermath. Yes the Wolves player hit out but I’d say he had every right to, being provoked twice.
Also thought the JRod flying tackle that caught him on the foot, completely missing the ball, could have been more than a yellow if he were so inclined.
Overall I thought he made the correct, balanced decisions on all the big calls.
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:38 am
by elwaclaret
Missed every trick in the book, there again so did VAR. For Collins to react like that suggests an eye gouge. Not sure how closely it was looked at. I thought we got booked for less than they were getting away with. Certainly a homer…. Probably apart from Turf of course.
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:43 am
by BLH_Claret
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Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:00 am
by Taffy on the wing
I thought he was awful!
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:49 am
by IanMcL
My faith in the thread restored.
He was a homer.
All that blood and we got the bookings!
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:55 am
by CaptJohn
Decent enough game but let two blatant fouls go unpunished that would have resulted in Jiminez being sent off in rugby union. The first was the blatant gouging on Collins when he clearly went for his eyes and the 2nd was the body check on Mee that was pre-meditated. He's a nasty piece of work that Jiminez. He may have got the sympathy vote when he broke his skull but he's back to his evil best now.
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:38 am
by Woodleyclaret
Spot on John but we all know South Americans are cheats.Back in the day I remember an Argentinian cheating bxxxxxx actually punching the ball to score in a World Cup game.
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:41 am
by bfcjg
Let play go on when he could but got big decisions wrong IMHO andcwasca homer.
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Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:34 am
by Rileybobs
Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:38 am
Spot on John but we all know South Americans are cheats.Back in the day I remember an Argentinian cheating bxxxxxx actually punching the ball to score in a World Cup game.
Jiminez isn’t South American.
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:11 am
by Silkyskills1
NewClaret wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:09 am
I thought Lowts was lucky to get away with the clash given he forearm smashed him & then seemed to lunge in the aftermath. Yes the Wolves player hit out but I’d say he had every right to, being provoked twice.
The main point there is 'Yes, the Wolves player hit out'. Another word for that is retaliation and as far as I am aware that is totally unacceptable and a red card is the simple outcome.
If a player makes the initial foul then the referee presumably gives a free kick to the other team ; the awarding of a yellow card is subjective. Retaliation is much easier to deal with as it doesn't involve a subjective decision. A yellow for both players is a coward's way out and we saw something very similar with Tarks and Zaha. So, the referee has learned very quickly to 'bottle' key decisions just like many of those more senior to him. He should go far.
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:26 am
by MACCA
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:34 am
Jiminez isn’t South American.
Tomato Tomato, most knew what he meant as he is Mexican
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:00 pm
by ClaretTony
Well done to him on his first Premier League game
A. 20
B. 18
C. 22
D. 22
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:53 pm
by IanMcL
CaptJohn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:55 am
Decent enough game but let two blatant fouls go unpunished that would have resulted in Jiminez being sent off in rugby union. The first was the blatant gouging on Collins when he clearly went for his eyes and the 2nd was the body check on Mee that was pre-meditated. He's a nasty piece of work that Jiminez. He may have got the sympathy vote when he broke his skull but he's back to his evil best now.
He knew the ref was going to bottle a sending off, in his first match, so took full advantage.
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:08 pm
by Rileybobs
MACCA wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:26 am
Tomato Tomato, most knew what he meant as he is Mexican
Well yes, but if you're going to make a lazy stereotype about an entire continent then it's advised to at least get the continent correct.
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:19 pm
by Dark Cloud
I only saw it live and from a distance and haven't seen it since, but did their guy kick Lowton when he was on the ground? That's what it looked like tbh. Otherwise the ref did pretty well tbf.
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:00 pm
by CaptJohn
Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:38 am
Spot on John but we all know South Americans are cheats.Back in the day I remember an Argentinian cheating bxxxxxx actually punching the ball to score in a World Cup game.
Hi Neil, Hope you're OK. You won't remember but the first time I met you was at Molineux. It was a long time ago and must have been an early season match because the sun was shining

Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:14 pm
by ClaretTony
Dark Cloud wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:19 pm
I only saw it live and from a distance and haven't seen it since, but did their guy kick Lowton when he was on the ground? That's what it looked like tbh. Otherwise the ref did pretty well tbf.
I've seen it since and thought he got that spot on with two yellows
Re: RATE THE REF - John Brooks v Wolves
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:08 am
by Taffy on the wing
CaptJohn wrote: ↑Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:55 am
Decent enough game but let two blatant fouls go unpunished that would have resulted in Jiminez being sent off in rugby union. The first was the blatant gouging on Collins when he clearly went for his eyes and the 2nd was the body check on Mee that was pre-meditated. He's a nasty piece of work that Jiminez. He may have got the sympathy vote when he broke his skull but he's back to his evil best now.
The one on Mee hurt his ribs i think