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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:11 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:07 pm
An upgraded position I would say. But yes, I do think we need more than that in reality.
Difficult to say if it’s an upgraded position or not.

Wood was proven in this league, to date Weghorst isn’t. I would say at best we are in the exact same spot.

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Post by Papabendi » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:16 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:11 pm
Difficult to say if it’s an upgraded position or not.

Wood was proven in this league, to date Weghorst isn’t. I would say at best we are in the exact same spot.
it's a punt - albeit on paper a promising one.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:17 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:07 pm
An upgraded position I would say. But yes, I do think we need more than that in reality.
Hopefully it will be but it is easier to score goals in the Bundesliga than it is in the Premier League, just ask Timo Werner.

There is a lot of positivity around Weghorst and hopefully he will become a really good signing for us. 🤞

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:17 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:11 pm
Difficult to say if it’s an upgraded position or not.

Wood was proven in this league, to date Weghorst isn’t. I would say at best we are in the exact same spot.
Isn’t that much difference in terms of age about 8 mths as well.

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Post by Andreshotboots » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:17 pm

Let's see what's happened by Monday night but this news is very disappointing. It just felt like the two probables, and then one maybe would give us a real shot in the arm for Watford and beyond.

Now it feels like being 1 -0 up with 2 minutes left and losing 2-1 😭

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Post by Indecisive » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:18 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:09 pm
There is still the possibility that the club wanted him for Sunday and this is a smokescreen, until after the game, but it’s unlikely.

The team over there must be pulling theit hair out with frustration, but if it’s dead, there is no time to morn; we still need another to fill the same gap.

I’ve been quiet on this but really expected this one to happen after getting so close. Next.

Think we are clutching at straws if we think there’s any chance he’ll be pulling on a Burnley shirt at some stage.

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Post by quoonbeatz » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:19 pm

Weghorst looks like he might take the sort of chances that Wood spurned with increasing regularity. And with Cornet back, this squad has enough about it to stay up.

It will be difficult, no doubt, but it's in our hands. Writing the season off at this stage does nobody any favours.
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Post by JohnDearyMe » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:19 pm

The club missed a trick in not bringing back Clive Holt on retainer to get this deal over the line. I'm led to believe he's fluent in Croatian which would have helped no end

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:20 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:01 pm
By all accounts he would have received higher wages at Burnley, so what this is down to I don't think it's purely about money.

And it appears AP did everything he could to get this one over the line, these things happen time to move onto other targets.
We don’t know that for sure 100%, none of it seems to make any logical sense it seems to be a pattern of us not getting deals completed but strangely the board never seem to be at
fault despite that same pattern continuing.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:20 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:19 pm
The club missed a trick in not bringing back Clive Holt on retainer to get this deal over the line. I'm led to believe he's fluent in Croatian which would have helped no end
He definitely isn’t part of the team in Croatia. I saw him last night at the U23 game.
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Post by minnieclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:20 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:58 pm
the player had a change of heart
You keep repeating this but I’d think it far more likely that his club, owners of his contract, have had a change of heart. He could well be as peeved as we are.
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Post by Indecisive » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:21 pm

Andreshotboots wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:17 pm
Let's see what's happened by Monday night but this news is very disappointing. It just felt like the two probables, and then one maybe would give us a real shot in the arm for Watford and beyond.

Now it feels like being 1 -0 up with 2 minutes left and losing 2-1 😭
100% it feels like this as a fan.

However for the players they hopefully will feel they’ve got the opportunity to prove that they can still cut it at this level.

I want to see the commitment we saw at the emirates. If we replicate that for the next few months, we would stay up without any new additions… and have a summer to strengthen properly.

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Post by ClaretAL » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:21 pm

Beat Watford next week and game on

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Post by RVclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:21 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:19 pm
Weghorst looks like he might take the sort of chances that Wood spurned with increasing regularity. And with Cornet back, this squad has enough about it to stay up.

It will be difficult, no doubt, but it's in our hands. Writing the season off at this stage does nobody any favours.
You think? Newcastle have strengthened whereas we haven’t. Who are we finishing above? What happens if Cornet gets injured again (quite likely given the sheer amount of games we have). I think it will be very very very difficult for us to stay up if we don’t add more quality.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:22 pm

minnieclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:20 pm
You keep repeating this but I’d think it far more likely that his club, owners of his contract, have had a change of heart. He could well be as peeved as we are.
I’m still far from convinced it was a change of heart from the player
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Post by ClaretPete001 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:26 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:10 pm
Pretty much what we already know but more on Ramsey

https://insidefutbol.com/2022/01/29/bur ... on/546672/
Again it doesn't seem like a credible story. Why would one of the highest earners at a Seria A club move to a relegation dog fight when he could sit out his contract and move for free at some point. According to reports he's on £400,000 a week.

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Post by Papabendi » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:27 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:22 pm
I’m still far from convinced it was a change of heart from the player
then the negotiating team have been naive and misread the situation based on the time it was taking to complete.

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Post by HahaYeah » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:29 pm

Fabrizio Romano has some credibility and he has linked us to AR on his twitter account.

Although granted he might not want to take a wage cut :mrgreen:

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Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:30 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:21 pm
Beat Watford next week and game on
That now has become a must, if it wasn't before.

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Post by RVclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:30 pm

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:26 pm
Again it doesn't seem like a credible story. Why would one of the highest earners at a Seria A club move to a relegation dog fight when he could sit out his contract and move for free at some point. According to reports he's on £400,000 a week.
It’s a loan. We’d cover a fraction of his wages. Juventus just want him out as he won’t be playing at all. They get 50k a week they wouldn’t have had from us. Player gets regular football with his international qualifiers coming in march and World Cup later in the year. Puts himself in the shop window for a bigger move in the summer. I think it’s unlikely but if he’s zero other offers by late tomorrow, he has to decide if he wants to play football in the PL or sit in the stands at Juve.
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Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:30 pm

I’m heartened by the fact we’ve been linked with loads of payers this window, which makes me think that it’s more probable we have a plan B this time unlike the other instances.

I don’t expect us to sign Ramsey but simply saying “he’s on £400k per week” takes no account of the multiple ways such deals are structured. It’s highly likely, wherever he goes he will still pull £400k per week until his contract expires.

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Post by RVclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:31 pm

HahaYeah wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:29 pm
Fabrizio Romano has some credibility and he has linked us to AR on his twitter account.

Although granted he might not want to take a wage cut :mrgreen:
See my post above, there is no wage cut. He still gets his full wages from Juve, we contribute an amount to it.

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Post by Spijed » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:31 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:11 pm
Difficult to say if it’s an upgraded position or not.

Wood was proven in this league, to date Weghorst isn’t. I would say at best we are in the exact same spot.
For whatever reason Wood wasn't happy as he said as much being in a comfort zone. At least a new striker should have something to prove at the very least.
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Post by duncandisorderly » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:31 pm

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:26 pm
Again it doesn't seem like a credible story. Why would one of the highest earners at a Seria A club move to a relegation dog fight when he could sit out his contract and move for free at some point. According to reports he's on £400,000 a week.
One way or another, Ramsey will still get his £400k a week. It's whether he wants to collect it by playing for six months or sitting in the italian sun for six months.

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Post by kentonclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:33 pm

100 pages approaching without a confirmed signing but one major outgoing. :x

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Post by NewClaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:33 pm

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:26 pm
Again it doesn't seem like a credible story. Why would one of the highest earners at a Seria A club move to a relegation dog fight when he could sit out his contract and move for free at some point. According to reports he's on £400,000 a week.
The more I read that he’s reluctant to join, wants a move to Palace, etc. the less I want him anyway.

I’d rather we go with players who want to be here. It could be toxic to introduce some who don’t.
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Post by minnieclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:34 pm

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:26 pm
Again it doesn't seem like a credible story. Why would one of the highest earners at a Seria A club move to a relegation dog fight when he could sit out his contract and move for free at some point. According to reports he's on £400,000 a week.
As said earlier we would not be picking up the £400k/week contract. Juve, I suspect, would be happy to get him off their books to save half of that. For the quality of the player and the possibility of staying in the PL I would snatch their hands off for him.
£200k x 17 weeks = £3.4m. He gets to play and in Summer we say thank you very much.

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Post by Dark Cloud » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:36 pm

Went to bed extremely hopeful and almost buoyant for the first time in ages last night and then this. We've no idea who is to blame right now, but my gut feelings are it's not AP as he has done everything possible and it's probably not the player as he apparently fancied giving it a go. It's smacks so much of Lansbury all over again and stupid, deceitful, two faced owners not doing "gentlemanly" business. Gutted and angry right now tbh.

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Post by elwaclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:36 pm

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:26 pm
Again it doesn't seem like a credible story. Why would one of the highest earners at a Seria A club move to a relegation dog fight when he could sit out his contract and move for free at some point. According to reports he's on £400,000 a week.
Because he’s desperate to return, but no one will take a punt on a player who has be en out in the cold for much of his astronomic contract. A few months saving Burnley would, one would assume mitigate against other clubs attitude to signing him and make the next deal far more attractive to buying clubs in the summer.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:36 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:30 pm
It’s a loan. We’d cover a fraction of his wages. Juventus just want him out as he won’t be playing at all. They get 50k a week they wouldn’t have had from us. Player gets regular football with his international qualifiers coming in march and World Cup later in the year. Puts himself in the shop window for a bigger move in the summer. I think it’s unlikely but if he’s zero other offers by late tomorrow, he has to decide if he wants to play football in the PL or sit in the stands at Juve.
Do you not think other more attractive clubs have offered that same proposition, other clubs with more clout than us have backed out because he’s on too much & if there’s any reduction before February he’ll go somewhere else that’s a closer match to his current deal.

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Post by kendalianclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:38 pm

I just hope Weghorst isn't already reading some of the comments on here about is possible inclusion in the Burnley squad, ie not an improvement on Wood, not good enough, (maybe you mean the clubs business isn't) but remember he isn't English and might not understand the meaning exactly, or we may discourage him from signing then we will really be back at square one minus Wood.
I think the negativity towards the club by some posters is terrible, but in fairness if we signed Ronaldo the same posters would be complaining that we hadn't signed Sane and Mane as well.
I am sure if the moaners want to invest there own money in these signings i'm sure the club would be happy to accept, lets let them get on with their business and understand that these disappointments do happen onwards and upwards with the Clarets.
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Post by jojomk1 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:40 pm

If any foreign players get linked to BFC they will likely never have even heard much of us
In which case their first move will be to look at the current table where they will see us bottom of the league with just one win
Not exactly a ringing endorsement for anyone to move here
More money may be an incentive but not when relegation reductions of the same come into the transfer negotiations
As for the English market it gets even harder as all players clearly know the problems we have
Would be delighted/amazed if we get any deals done over this weekend
Pace may be trying his best but, at this minute in time, we are a hard sell to anyone
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Post by Top Claret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:40 pm

Any update on the Dutch lad, is it or isn't it a goer?. The longer this drags on the more I think that we are all going to be disappointed

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Post by Top Claret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:42 pm

Nearly 5000 posts, 100 pages and not one signing, amazing

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Post by RVclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:42 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:40 pm
Any update on the Dutch lad, is it or isn't it a goer?. The longer this drags on the more I think that we are all going to be disappointed
CT highlighted before he is very confident we will get him. But as we have just seen, until we see the player holding up a scarf on the Turf there will always be doubt.
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Post by SalisburyClaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:43 pm

Isn’t Ramsey a long way from being fit and hasn’t he already said no to us.

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Post by elwaclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:45 pm

kendalianclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:38 pm
I just hope Weghorst isn't already reading some of the comments on here about is possible inclusion in the Burnley squad, ie not an improvement on Wood, not good enough, (maybe you mean the clubs business isn't) but remember he isn't English and might not understand the meaning exactly, or we may discourage him from signing then we will really be back at square one minus Wood.
I think the negativity towards the club by some posters is terrible, but in fairness if we signed Ronaldo the same posters would be complaining that we hadn't signed Sane and Mane as well.
I am sure if the moaners want to invest there own money in these signings i'm sure the club would be happy to accept, lets let them get on with their business and understand that these disappointments do happen onwards and upwards with the Clarets.
I think Twitter is a far more likely candidate for causing any changes of heart, rather than him being aware of ‘Up the Clarets’, popular as it is, we are unofficial and generally off the radar for most Burnley fans, let alone non-Burnley fans.

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Post by Top Claret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:45 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:43 pm
Isn’t Ramsey a long way from being fit and hasn’t he already said no to us.
It would be ridiculous signing a player who isn't fit and paying him 400k a week with our finances

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:47 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:31 pm
For whatever reason Wood wasn't happy as he said as much being in a comfort zone. At least a new striker should have something to prove at the very least.
Don’t read too much into an interview a player has done internally for his new club

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:47 pm

The level of delusion is astounding if we can’t broker a deal with Andy Carroll’s wage demands how the hell are any terms going to be acceptable to whatever Ramsey wants.

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Post by RVclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:47 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:45 pm
It would be ridiculous signing a player who isn't fit and paying him 400k a week with our finances
For the millionth time we wouldn’t be paying him anywhere near 400k a week. Probably a 10th of that.
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Post by Firthy » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:47 pm

We could do a lot worse than getting Knight and Lawrence from Derby. They wouldn't cost the earth and at least give us some options.

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Post by elwaclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:48 pm

This reminds me of the noise around Cornet, and then it was suddenly sorted out and he was on his way…
Well, it’s still a possibility and those over there will have a clearer idea, and hopefully the return flight can be delayed/diverted to sort out “a player” before they return.

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Post by Top Claret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:49 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:47 pm
For the millionth time we wouldn’t be paying him anywhere near 400k a week. Probably a 10th of that.
I know that.. I am just trying to get to 100 pages 😂
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Post by kendalianclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:49 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:45 pm
I think Twitter is a far more likely candidate for causing any changes of heart, rather than him being aware of ‘Up the Clarets’, popular as it is, we are unofficial and generally off the radar for most Burnley fans, let alone non-Burnley fans.
I agree regarding Twitter, and yes this isn't the club's site, but this is still a Burnley fans/supporters site, and don't be fooled into thinking players don't read it, because they do.

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Re: January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by quoonbeatz » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:50 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:21 pm
You think? Newcastle have strengthened whereas we haven’t. Who are we finishing above? What happens if Cornet gets injured again (quite likely given the sheer amount of games we have). I think it will be very very very difficult for us to stay up if we don’t add more quality.
Yep, we've got half a season to play yet. Not bothered about what anyone else has done or is doing, it's in our hands. If we can play most games at full strength, the points are there to be won.

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Re: January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by Papabendi » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:50 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:42 pm
CT highlighted before he is very confident we will get him. But as we have just seen, until we see the player holding up a scarf on the Turf there will always be doubt.
Holding up a scarf at Turf Moor isn't a rubber stamp either...

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Re: January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by ClaretPete001 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:51 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:43 pm
Isn’t Ramsey a long way from being fit and hasn’t he already said no to us.
Well any proportion of £400k is a lot for a player who would have to come into a relegation dog fight after not playing and be better than what we have.

In terms of Weghorst he is valued at £18 million on some sites, which is also a lot and Wolfsburg are in a relegation battle themselves.

I think at this point I'm just going to wait until Monday because I can't see the Wood for the Weghorsts at the moment.....!

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Re: January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by Mala591 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:53 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:30 pm
It’s a loan. We’d cover a fraction of his wages. Juventus just want him out as he won’t be playing at all. They get 50k a week they wouldn’t have had from us. Player gets regular football with his international qualifiers coming in march and World Cup later in the year. Puts himself in the shop window for a bigger move in the summer. I think it’s unlikely but if he’s zero other offers by late tomorrow, he has to decide if he wants to play football in the PL or sit in the stands at Juve.
Dear ClaretTony, Could you please forward this message to Aaron Ramsey’s e-mail address. Thank you.
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Re: January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

Post by Rombald » Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:53 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:11 pm
And with our games piling up from here on its a guarantee we pick up a few knocks from being unable to rotate. We also know another injury to Cornet makes us look like a league one team. It’s now desperate that we bring in at least 1, ideally 2 as well as Wood’s replacement.
League one team? Really?

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