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Work permits should be a formality. From what I read they’ll both receive an “auto pass”. Weghorst because he’s a regular in the Bundesliga (one of EUs top 5 leagues) and Orsic because he’s a regular for Croatia and competed in Europa League recently.
Doesn’t mean the paperwork won’t take a day or two to go through though.
Doesn’t mean the paperwork won’t take a day or two to go through though.
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Hopefully we can complete the deals either today or tomorrow then so both can join training by Tuesday at the latest.agreenwood wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:34 amWork permits should be a formality. From what I read they’ll both receive an “auto pass”. Weghorst because he’s a regular in the Bundesliga (one of EUs top 5 leagues) and Orsic because he’s a regular for Croatia and competed in Europa League recently.
Doesn’t mean the paperwork won’t take a day or two to go through though.
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Agreenwood I have seen that document as well, however I believe there is a documentation process to go through. Could this cause a problem?agreenwood wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:34 amWork permits should be a formality. From what I read they’ll both receive an “auto pass”. Weghorst because he’s a regular in the Bundesliga (one of EUs top 5 leagues) and Orsic because he’s a regular for Croatia and competed in Europa League recently.
Doesn’t mean the paperwork won’t take a day or two to go through though.
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Footballer work permits will be fast-tracked, because of the nature of the business. They won’t have designed the new system without consulting the industry and appreciating the rapid requirements around transfers.
I can’t see it scuppering the transfers, but might delay them till a bit closer to the wire.
I’m not an expert in this by the way. Just going off what I’ve read.
I can’t see it scuppering the transfers, but might delay them till a bit closer to the wire.
I’m not an expert in this by the way. Just going off what I’ve read.
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First with the big news yet again. How does he do it?
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On paper this looks to be excellent business. Hope they adapt to the Premier league as quickly as Cornet. I’m certainly feeling more hopeful than I was before. UTC.
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If delaying the money ALK owe me for my share means getting players like this in then I for one are more then happy,if they do the business and keep us up they can pay me next year.
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There's a good article in The Athletic which explains this. We were apparently expanding our scouting setup before the takeover. That was Mike Rigg's remit. It grew to cover 48 countries by the time he left. ALK have looked to expand it further and are clearly more willing to look abroad. Apparently, they see particularly good value in the French market (hence the signing of Cornet).ClaretMov wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:29 amI don't know if I've missed something or I'm being a bit slow but how come we are linked with most of our targets from abroad, what's changed, have we new scouts. I know the better bargains are from out of England with fee's and wages compared to players even in the championship and I'm 100 percent not complaining its fantastic, but it's not what we've done In all the year's we've played in the premier league, how are we finding these player's like Cornet now, long may it continue.
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If we can back these two up with a centre mid that’s one of the best windows we have had in a long time. Makes a huge difference on paper.
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Not sure if it’s been suggested before or if you still have the articles but could be an interesting feature to put on the site? “Look at what you could have won”/“sliding doors” vibes!ClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:51 pmI never shred them. Just imagine if I did that and then we signed Andrew Driver or Derek Riordan.
I remember being gutted we didn’t sign Riordan and also Artim Sakiri.
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Whilst not OTL yet we are clearly moving in the right direction and giving ourselves the best chance of beating the drop. Other fans of teams around us will not like seeing what PACE and Co are doing here.
Exciting times.
Exciting times.
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Interesting if it is perhaps the much maligned Mike Rigg who has put us in this position to now effectively recruit overseas (and that it was Garlick who was perhaps unwilling to spend there?).williamjblazkowicz wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:42 amThere's a good article in The Athletic which explains this. We were apparently expanding our scouting setup before the takeover. That was Mike Rigg's remit. It grew to cover 48 countries by the time he left. ALK have looked to expand it further and are clearly more willing to look abroad. Apparently, they see particularly good value in the French market (hence the signing of Cornet).
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Imperative that we get in a new centre midfielder IMHOMilltown1882 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:52 amIf we can back these two up with a centre mid that’s one of the best windows we have had in a long time. Makes a huge difference on paper.
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Carroll to West Brom according to the ever reliable John Percy.
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" and that it was Garlick who was perhaps unwilling to spend ANYWHERE [/i]?).jedi_master wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:00 amInteresting if it is perhaps the much maligned Mike Rigg who has put us in this position to now effectively recruit overseas (and that it was Garlick who was perhaps unwilling to spend there?).
Fixed it for you
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Burnley fans in "continued surprise to find that scouting networks don't just get built by clicking "Assign scout to Central Europe" button, but that they take years to embed and become effective" shocker.....who would have thought somebody like Mike Rigg might just have had an inkling of what was needed, and what he was doing....
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Careful with that kind of comment. There are people on here who have a long history of establishing a network overseas who will tell you that Rigg did nothing. They can produce a list of 20 players, what the fee would be and what the wage would be at the drop of a hat.dandeclaret wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:23 amBurnley fans in "continued surprise to find that scouting networks don't just get built by clicking "Assign scout to Central Europe" button, but that they take years to embed and become effective" shocker.....who would have thought somebody like Mike Rigg might just have had an inkling of what was needed, and what he was doing....
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Everyone knows you assign scout to Scandinavia first to pick up all those Swedish bargains!dandeclaret wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:23 amBurnley fans in "continued surprise to find that scouting networks don't just get built by clicking "Assign scout to Central Europe" button, but that they take years to embed and become effective" shocker.....who would have thought somebody like Mike Rigg might just have had an inkling of what was needed, and what he was doing....
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To be fair, the club rarely (if ever) publicised any element of Mike Rigg’s role once he had been hired. He became an embodiment of the lack of transfer activity as things dried up even further on the recruitment front after his much heralded arrival - whether that was partly his fault or not.dandeclaret wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:23 amBurnley fans in "continued surprise to find that scouting networks don't just get built by clicking "Assign scout to Central Europe" button, but that they take years to embed and become effective" shocker.....who would have thought somebody like Mike Rigg might just have had an inkling of what was needed, and what he was doing....
If Rigg has had a big hand in putting the systems and network in place which has resulted in us finding gems like Cornet, and then the hopefully decent acquisitions of Orsic and Weghorst then that is positive. Our lack of foreign business has held us back immeasurably ever since we first got promoted to this league under Dyche.
I doubt we’ll ever truly know or understand the reasons behind the transfer activity black hole over the two years preceding last summers window.
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For me the recruitment of quality players strengthened after Riggs departure (I am excluding the Jan 2021 window as ALK had just come on board). WE saw very little during Rigg's reign. Part of me wonders how established and strong we might be in the PL now had ALK come on board 2-3 years earlier, rather than playing catch up today. Part of this might be due to a better relationship and understanding between SD and the new owners-however long may this continue. The news of imminent key signings has given me hope about potential survival this season, which had been diminishing between early December and recently
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Do any clubs publish details of their scouting networks being built? Valuable scouting networks can also be "purchased" by other clubs if they start to yield hidden gems, therefore, it's probably for the best that it's just left to do it's business in the background.jedi_master wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:35 amTo be fair, the club rarely (if ever) publicised any element of Mike Rigg’s role once he had been hired. He became an embodiment of the lack of transfer activity as things dried up even further on the recruitment front after his much heralded arrival - whether that was partly his fault or not.
If Rigg has had a big hand in putting the systems and network in place which has resulted in us finding gems like Cornet, and then the hopefully decent acquisitions of Orsic and Weghorst then that is positive. Our lack of foreign business has held us back immeasurably ever since we first got promoted to this league under Dyche.
I doubt we’ll ever truly know or understand the reasons behind the transfer activity black hole over the two years preceding last summers window.
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https://twitter.com/fpl_banger/status/1 ... 81508?s=21
Orsic’s goal (first up) away at West Ham in the Europa this season. I think him and Maxwel will battle it out for goal of the season…
Orsic’s goal (first up) away at West Ham in the Europa this season. I think him and Maxwel will battle it out for goal of the season…
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Go on, I give up. What does OTL stand for?
One True Love?
Out To Lunch?
OverTime Limit?
Mind everyone else seems to understand, it must be me.
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I disagree, Brazil and Argentina are the leagues to scout for young talent.FeedTheArf wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:29 amEveryone knows you assign scout to Scandinavia first to pick up all those Swedish bargains!
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Over the line2 Bee Holed wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:58 amGo on, I give up. What does OTL stand for?
One True Love?
Out To Lunch?
OverTime Limit?
Mind everyone else seems to understand, it must be me.
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I think someone with some clout at the club has watched “moneyball”.ClaretMov wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:29 amI don't know if I've missed something or I'm being a bit slow but how come we are linked with most of our targets from abroad, what's changed, have we new scouts. I know the better bargains are from out of England with fee's and wages compared to players even in the championship and I'm 100 percent not complaining its fantastic, but it's not what we've done In all the year's we've played in the premier league, how are we finding these player's like Cornet now, long may it continue.
But yeah, been a long time coming, other clubs have been exploiting this market for years, whilst we have stood idly by complaining that the market we CHOSE to operate in has spectacularly inflated values on players.
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Go on, I give up. What does OTL stand for?
Orsic to lineup
Orsic to lineup
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On the lash2 Bee Holed wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:58 amGo on, I give up. What does OTL stand for?
One True Love?
Out To Lunch?
OverTime Limit?
Mind everyone else seems to understand, it must be me.
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In fact one actually has on the previous pageclaretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:26 amCareful with that kind of comment. There are people on here who have a long history of establishing a network overseas who will tell you that Rigg did nothing. They can produce a list of 20 players, what the fee would be and what the wage would be at the drop of a hat.
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Minutes applause for Mike Rigg in the next game is the least we can do.
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When they announced Mike Rigg is no longer with us I had no idea…Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:11 amMinutes applause for Mike Rigg in the next game is the least we can do.
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Whilst I do like One True Love and On The Lash....2 Bee Holed wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:58 amGo on, I give up. What does OTL stand for?
One True Love?
Out To Lunch?
OverTime Limit?
Mind everyone else seems to understand, it must be me.
Over
The
Line
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It was hard to know what was going on with all the rumours of Rigg/Garlick trying to sign players Dyche didn’t want. But I always felt Dyche spoke very highly of Rigg & the work he was doing behind the scenes, so took the rumours with a pinch of salt.Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:11 amMinutes applause for Mike Rigg in the next game is the least we can do.
Good people leave a legacy and if that’s what Rigg has done here, thank you very much!!
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Well.
If these 2 come off, I'd have to say that someone at the club has played a blinder.
The big fella is as clear and obvious a significant upgrade on Wood as you're going to find.. Other fella looks like a version of Vydra who knows where the onion bag is. What's not to like?
If we get to Monday without any further outgoings then we've strengthened and kept the bank manager happy at the same time.
Anybody carping at this needs to grow up.
If these 2 come off, I'd have to say that someone at the club has played a blinder.
The big fella is as clear and obvious a significant upgrade on Wood as you're going to find.. Other fella looks like a version of Vydra who knows where the onion bag is. What's not to like?
If we get to Monday without any further outgoings then we've strengthened and kept the bank manager happy at the same time.
Anybody carping at this needs to grow up.
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If we are at the work permit stage, the deal will done and the contract signed, subject to work permit. Just a case of that being processed now and there shouldn’t be any issues there
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He’s becoming like one of the numerous players over the years who’ve got better each passing game sat on the subs bench!Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:11 amMinutes applause for Mike Rigg in the next game is the least we can do.
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Two on paper very exciting signings to complement the business done in the summer. Shame Pace and co weren’t here three seasons ago!fatboy47 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:19 amWell.
If these 2 come off, I'd have to say that someone at the club has played a blinder.
The big fella is as clear and obvious a significant upgrade on Wood as you're going to find.. Other fella looks like a version of Vydra who knows where the onion bag is. What's not to like?
If we get to Monday without any further outgoings then we've strengthened and kept the bank manager happy at the same time.
Anybody carping at this needs to grow up.
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The club will have done very well with the Wood's transfer money if they can get these two across the line. I hope we get some good news before the weekend, then we will have something to celebrate.
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I imagine most fans would take Orsic and Weghorst (with money to spare from the sound of it?) over Chris Wood. Fantastic business by the club if we get these two over the line -- does sound like we will.
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On paper McNeil, Cornet and Orsic all seem to be naturally left sided mid fielders. It will be interesting to see how they are utilised, assuming they all play at the same time, which surely they must. Im’m definitely not being negative at all by the way.
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If AP pulls these 2 deals off ( and with a “ free” 25m) he should do , I’ll be very pleased indeed . Could be a case of Wood keeping us us without playing for over half the season !
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I'll be applauding Newcastle for potentially funding our survival bid, and still leaving us with some cash for a 3rd signing!!Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:11 amMinutes applause for Mike Rigg in the next game is the least we can do.
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Slight words of caution here, on paper they look good signings, and I'm glad we've got them in at sensible prices, but they won't be the first to struggle when they first arrive
I hope they hit the ground running like! (and we really need them to)
I hope they hit the ground running like! (and we really need them to)
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They should be thrown straight in against Watford - neither will have a better opportunity for hitting the ground running than playing the (in my opinion) worst team in the league at home.Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:05 amSlight words of caution here, on paper they look good signings, and I'm glad we've got them in at sensible prices, but they won't be the first to struggle when they first arrive
I hope they hit the ground running like! (and we really need them to)
Good opportunity for Weghorst to break his duck early doors.
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