Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:05 am

No

Whether we like it or not, we've been underinvesting in the squad for at least two seasons, and as a result we've got some pretty glaring issues if we get anymore than one injury in certain areas

Pace and Co will lose more than that if we go down and they know as well as we all do that we need both reinforcements and to move some players on

Totally agree but the doom monger in me says if we spend millions in January, then we still go down we really could be in the poop financially. I think Maxwell has been the exeption rather than the rule how he's basically hit the ground running with his performances.

In my own humble opinion, and that's all it is as I'm tight , I'd have prefered 2/3 loans maybe just to try and get us over the line then re build again in the summer..

Andreshotboots wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:12 am

Totally agree but the doom monger in me says if we spend millions in January, then we still go down we really could be in the poop financially. I think Maxwell has been the exeption rather than the rule how he's basically hit the ground running with his performances.

In my own humble opinion, and that's all it is as I'm tight , I'd have prefered 2/3 loans maybe just to try and get us over the line then re build again in the summer..

Oh, if we go down, then we'll have to do some pretty drastic squad changes

All you have to do is look at Swansea to see how they effectively have to rebuild the squad every season as the parachute money drops off, and that of course makes it almost impossible to build a squad that can get promoted back

We could risk going straight back up, but if it doesn't work, the financial consequences could be even worse

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:05 am

No

Whether we like it or not, we've been underinvesting in the squad for at least two seasons, and as a result we've got some pretty glaring issues if we get anymore than one injury in certain areas

Pace and Co will lose more than that if we go down and they know as well as we all do that we need both reinforcements and to move some players on

I agree with this. Another big issue is whether we're able to bring in reinforcements at the start of January this time or if we'll have to wait until the end of the month

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:16 am

Oh, if we go down, then we'll have to do some pretty drastic squad changes

All you have to do is look at Swansea to see how they effectively have to rebuild the squad every season as the parachute money drops off, and that of course makes it almost impossible to build a squad that can get promoted back

We could risk going straight back up, but if it doesn't work, the financial consequences could be even worse

There's an argument to say if we are going to get relegated then this season would be the one to do it, as this fan-led review / independent regulator thing looks set to really tear into parachute payments.

Mattster wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:24 am

There's an argument to say if we are going to get relegated then this season would be the one to do it, as this fan-led review / independent regulator thing looks set to really tear into parachute payments.

Thing is, you just have to look at Derby to see the potential issues if that tactic doesn't work, and there are lots more examples as well

JohnDearyMe wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:18 am

I agree with this. Another big issue is whether we're able to bring in reinforcements at the start of January this time or if we'll have to wait until the end of the month

Ideally, the 1st of Jan

Realistically, the last week of Jan

I can sense this developing into a long thread along the lines of a Shakespeare play 'Much Ado about nothing'. I will be most surprised if we sign anyone in January.

ashtonlongsider wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:43 am

I can sense this developing into a long thread along the lines of a Shakespeare play 'Much Ado about nothing'. I will be most surprised if we sign anyone in January.

Remember this line being posted numerous times over the summer and guess what we signed players!

If the reports on Fulgini and Hill are accurate it suggests a fair amount of work has gone into those deals already - which would hopefully mean early rather than late January - as one of the most common reasons for delay as far as we are concerned would appear to be players/agents weighing up alternative offers

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:41 pm

You can reiterate all you like Ben , my guess is you haven’t a clue

What a ray of sunshine you are

EarbyClaret wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:55 am

If the reports on Fulgini and Hill are accurate it suggests a fair amount of work has gone into those deals already - which would hopefully mean early rather than late January - as one of the most common reasons for delay as far as we are concerned would appear to be players/agents weighing up alternative offers

It seems a fairly reasonable assumption. I would be shocked now if we don’t see at least two more arrivals in January.

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:08 am

Brereton Diaz

It has been discussed

I see some posters are still confusing the new owners with the old ones. Different kettle of fish now and I’m certain we will make signings in January.

In respect of “what if we go down”, we will still have players with significant sell on value especially if the new additions are anything like Cornet.

The financial question is certainly an interesting one.

However at this point we desperately require reinforcements, it’s up to Pace to balance the risk

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:08 am

Brereton Diaz

For one reason only, I hope so

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/n ... oes-viral/

ashtonlongsider wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:43 am

I can sense this developing into a long thread along the lines of a Shakespeare play 'Much Ado about nothing'. I will be most surprised if we sign anyone in January.

The most apt post in this whole thread.

Jamesy wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:29 pm

The most apt post in this whole thread.

Not really given it’s a transfer rumours thread.

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 03, 2021 1:38 pm

Not really given it’s a transfer rumours thread.

Ok then, I will start a rumour. We won’t be signing anyone in January. There you go.

Jamesy wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:56 pm

Ok then, I will start a rumour. We won’t be signing anyone in January. There you go.

Thanks. No need to open this thread again then for you!

Of course, it's quite likely that someone like Fulgini, if he came in, would in effect be seen as a replacement for McNeil, who is realistically likely to be sold next summer for significantly more than the outlay on Fulgini.

It makes complete sense to try and bring in that replacement in January so as to assist in the transition, same logic as signing Collins last summer. So it's not a given that the club see this as unfunded outlay that stretches our financial position.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:03 pm

Thanks. No need to open this thread again then for you!

Spot on pal! You won’t see any further input on this thread from me. Promise

BenWickes wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:24 pm

I don't know Fulgini but as per my past posts on ALK, we will be active and if the rumour is true; we will go all out for him as per Cornet. I'm told we're after three players but not necessarily all in the same window and one is a back up option.
I questioned regards Barkley and I got a kind of reaction that he was the 'back up'/'last option'.
A surprise, but very welcome name our fans would be pleased with popped up as an option to loan/buy but he asked me not to mention it. Suffice to say he is a holding, defensive midfielder. I can't say any more.

Gareth Barry....

claretspice wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:27 pm

Of course, it's quite likely that someone like Fulgini, if he came in, would in effect be seen as a replacement for McNeil, who is realistically likely to be sold next summer for significantly more than the outlay on Fulgini.

It makes complete sense to try and bring in that replacement in January so as to assist in the transition, same logic as signing Collins last summer. So it's not a given that the club see this as unfunded outlay that stretches our financial position.

What makes you think McNeil will be sold ?

Claretspice makes an excellent point - the last window actually looked and felt like considered succession planning. For all the criticism of failing to bring in a CM the owners were trying to make up a vast amount of lost ground

If the players allegedly linked in January are anywhere near accurate that's a huge step in the right direction. The aim has to be to bring in sufficient quality to ensure we are a PL club going into 2022/23 which will hopefully give us enough room for manoeuvre to address the under-investment in previous windows and properly refresh the squad

claretspice wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:27 pm

Of course, it's quite likely that someone like Fulgini, if he came in, would in effect be seen as a replacement for McNeil, who is realistically likely to be sold next summer for significantly more than the outlay on Fulgini.

It makes complete sense to try and bring in that replacement in January so as to assist in the transition, same logic as signing Collins last summer. So it's not a given that the club see this as unfunded outlay that stretches our financial position.

Surely (if McNeil is to be sold) his replacement would be Cornet.
Adding a CM (Fulgini?) would only bring the numbers back to what they are at present.
In addition we lose Tarkowski.

That doesn't sound like rebuilding or improving very much to me.
We would still need a, cover at CM and LW and a CB.

Just seen that Fulgini scored Angers' winner today

This isn't a link or a rumour - I assume it's valid under the 'discussion' section of this thread - but Christian Eriksen is due to have his contract cancelled at Inter since you can't play in Italy with a pacemaker.

I'm sure there'll be bigger clubs in for him, but you never know...

A little on Tom Lawrence...

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/sourc ... unty-star/

Jamesy wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:56 pm

Ok then, I will start a rumour. We won’t be signing anyone in January. There you go.

Source?

Heard a rumour today we are targetting these two to bulster our flagging midfield could be be worth a punt and well within our budget.

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:06 pm

Heard a rumour today we are targetting these two to bulster our flagging midfield could be be worth a punt and well within our budget.

FB_IMG_1638810197983.jpg

Great picture

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:17 pm

Great picture

Pity I can't unsee it.
Jeez.

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:17 pm

Great picture

Depends where your focus is

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:06 pm

Heard a rumour today we are targetting these two to bulster our flagging midfield could be be worth a punt and well within our budget.

FB_IMG_1638810197983.jpg

Big Ron looks like he's lining up an unwelcome approach.

Jim's bandy legs made him particularly easy to nutmeg

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:59 pm

Big Ron looks like he's lining up an unwelcome approach.

With the way Jim is stood he looks like he's already had one.

Big Ron,

wore his weight in gold

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:34 pm

With the way Jim is stood he looks like he's already had one.

In this case it wouldn’t be the famous Big Ron saying “back stick”, it would be more like “back doors”.

Fretters wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:36 am

This isn't a link or a rumour - I assume it's valid under the 'discussion' section of this thread - but Christian Eriksen is due to have his contract cancelled at Inter since you can't play in Italy with a pacemaker.

I'm sure there'll be bigger clubs in for him, but you never know...

Must admit I did give it a “mmm…” when I saw this yesterday

I can see us having a few head to heads with Norwich in the next window, now that Dean Smith will be fishing in the same pond.

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:06 pm

Heard a rumour today we are targetting these two to bulster our flagging midfield could be be worth a punt and well within our budget.

FB_IMG_1638810197983.jpg

The bold eagle has just landed, big Ron’s in the middle of saying “Is he allowed to do that, ref?” (and nothing off Mike, whatsoever)

elwaclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:32 pm

Must admit I did give it a “mmm…” when I saw this yesterday

Could Dyche apply his omelette making skills to Danish pastries?

Lancashire torpedoes, lad needs building up a bit

Fretters wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:24 pm

Could Dyche apply his omelette making skills to Danish pastries?

Sorry missed quote

claretspice wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:27 pm

Of course, it's quite likely that someone like Fulgini, if he came in, would in effect be seen as a replacement for McNeil, who is realistically likely to be sold next summer for significantly more than the outlay on Fulgini.

It makes complete sense to try and bring in that replacement in January so as to assist in the transition, same logic as signing Collins last summer. So it's not a given that the club see this as unfunded outlay that stretches our financial position.

I think McNeil is finding his level with us, still fairly young but I don’t think he is technically good enough to play for anyone above a Palace/Southampton. Also very one dimensional, we are about right for him IMO

I cannot see anyone being too keen to sign McNeil on current form, no matter of the perceived potential. Burnley will want serious money and managers and clubs have to maximise their PR to keep fans happy with ‘the latest thing’

Didn’t Mancini come from Angers seconds for a small fee?

Can see a deal plus makeweight there.

JR1882 wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:34 pm

I think McNeil is finding his level with us, still fairly young but I don’t think he is technically good enough to play for anyone above a Palace/Southampton. Also very one dimensional, we are about right for him IMO

Be VERY careful what you say about McNeil on this board.

Rhys Healey

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2021/12/07/4 ... l-striker/