How many times have we been bottom 3 at Xmas?

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How many times have we been bottom 3 at Xmas?

Post by groove » Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:48 pm

Somebody just asked me this. Would anybody on here know? And did relegation usually follow? Thanks in advance

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Re: How many times have we been bottom 3 at Xmas?

Post by alboclaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:03 pm

Must have been in bottom 3 other year when Everton thrashed us over Christmas

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Re: How many times have we been bottom 3 at Xmas?

Post by StuffyClaret » Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:20 pm

Don't worry...we wont be this year :geek:
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Re: How many times have we been bottom 3 at Xmas?

Post by tiger76 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:12 pm

At a guess 14/15, and naturally 17/18, can't think of any others in the PL era.

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Re: How many times have we been bottom 3 at Xmas?

Post by claretburns » Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:29 pm

Burnley seasons in Premier League at Christmas

09/10 14th
14/15 18th
16/17 16th
17/18 7th
18/19 18th
19/20 10th
20/21 16th

Where we finished each season

09/10 18th
14/15 19th
16/17 16th
17/18 7th
18/19 15th
19/20 10th
20/21 17th
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Re: How many times have we been bottom 3 at Xmas?

Post by Rowls » Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:30 pm

We've got our work cut out, haven't we?

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Re: How many times have we been bottom 3 at Xmas?

Post by Peter Loo » Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:16 pm

claretburns wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:29 pm
Burnley seasons in Premier League at Christmas

09/10 14th
14/15 18th
16/17 16th
17/18 7th
18/19 18th
19/20 10th
20/21 16th

Where we finished each season

09/10 18th
14/15 19th
16/17 16th
17/18 7th
18/19 15th
19/20 10th
20/21 17th
Interesting that by and large where we are at Christmas is where we have finished looking at those figures.

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Re: How many times have we been bottom 3 at Xmas?

Post by houseboy » Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:36 pm

I’m taking some comfort in 18/19. 3 points adrift at the moment with a game in hand and better gd. Not pretending it’s easy but it’s one win chaps…one win. The annoying thing is the points that got away; 3 against Brighton, 2 v Leeds, 2 v Leicester and that’s not including the points possibly dropped for the sake of a mad 10 minutes at Everton.
I’m not one for cliches but Dyche is kinda right when he says small margins. But for small margins we could be mid table.

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Re: How many times have we been bottom 3 at Xmas?

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:39 am

We've failed to improve on our Xmas position 7 seasons out of 8 in the Premier League. Dont show this to Spijed his head will explode.

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Re: How many times have we been bottom 3 at Xmas?

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:42 am

houseboy wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 11:36 pm
I’m taking some comfort in 18/19. 3 points adrift at the moment with a game in hand and better gd. Not pretending it’s easy but it’s one win chaps…one win. The annoying thing is the points that got away; 3 against Brighton, 2 v Leeds, 2 v Leicester and that’s not including the points possibly dropped for the sake of a mad 10 minutes at Everton.
I’m not one for cliches but Dyche is kinda right when he says small margins. But for small margins we could be mid table.
True but small margins a couple of other seasons could have meant relegation as we won and drew a lot matches where we were lucky to get anything from the game.

When we were the masters of pinching results it was not luck but down to our mentality, determination, rugged defending and taking the minimal opportunities we had. If thats how it works then by the same token we are not being unlucky now but we have just been poor in some of the key areas that used to get us results

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Re: How many times have we been bottom 3 at Xmas?

Post by Spijed » Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:24 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:39 am
We've failed to improve on our Xmas position 7 seasons out of 8 in the Premier League. Dont show this to Spijed his head will explode.
Primarily because we haven't had to.

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Re: How many times have we been bottom 3 at Xmas?

Post by Dark Cloud » Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:11 pm

I'm taking comfort from the fact that the one season where we improved our position after Christmas was the one season where we HAD to.

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Re: How many times have we been bottom 3 at Xmas?

Post by Elizabeth » Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:55 pm

claretburns wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:29 pm
Burnley seasons in Premier League at Christmas

09/10 14th
14/15 18th
16/17 16th
17/18 7th
18/19 18th
19/20 10th
20/21 16th

Where we finished each season

09/10 18th
14/15 19th
16/17 16th
17/18 7th
18/19 15th
19/20 10th
20/21 17th
If I’m reading that right we’ve only improved our Xmas position once so if that is telling a repeat of 18/19 might be needed

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Re: How many times have we been bottom 3 at Xmas?

Post by tiger76 » Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:00 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:11 pm
I'm taking comfort from the fact that the one season where we improved our position after Christmas was the one season where we HAD to.
Good point and it needs to be remembered we usually go on the beach once we're safe, so the fact our final few games will likely have an edge should ensure the lads remained focussed all season.

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Re: How many times have we been bottom 3 at Xmas?

Post by Conroy92 » Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:15 am

Dark Cloud wrote:
Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:11 pm
I'm taking comfort from the fact that the one season where we improved our position after Christmas was the one season where we HAD to.
I'd also be interested to know how many points in those seasons we collected after being confirmed as safe. We seem to struggle to hold the same mentality when we have reached safety so perhaps this may also help us get a few extra points at the end of this season? I'm clutching at straws but it's all I've got!

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Re: How many times have we been bottom 3 at Xmas?

Post by Dark Cloud » Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:17 am

Conroy92 wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:15 am
I'd also be interested to know how many points in those seasons we collected after being confirmed as safe. We seem to struggle to hold the same mentality when we have reached safety so perhaps this may also help us get a few extra points at the end of this season? I'm clutching at straws but it's all I've got!
Good point tbf. But the trouble is this season we seem to be struggling with our mentality BEFORE we're safe!!

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