Continuing the trend of recent weeks.

Yes it 100% is.

Nope, 3 points will be massive but a loss in December wont end our season by a long shot

I'd say it's a mustn't lose .

Can't afford to lose against Watford and we need to
keep within distance of those above us and hope that we can
turn things around soon, very soon.
Lose to Watford and I think we're gonners.

I'd say yes. It's obviously not going to seal our fate should we lose, but we really have to start winning football matches and get some momentum going..

Yes

Yes, you need to beat the teams near the bottom if you want to stay up.

Every game is must win until we are out of this mess.

7-8 wins required from 23 games. They have got to start coming from somewhere

No must win games for weeks and weeks and weeks

Yeah course it is.

Must not lose and preferably not another bloody draw

Nope not at all , but would be happy if we won

jurek wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:57 pm

Lose to Watford and I think we're gonners.

Leicester 4 Newcastle 0 and Eddie Howe (not to defend) out by christmas

Absolutely must win. No doubt about it.

Yes must win game we have to beat the teams around us.

Can somebody add it to the list….. thanks in advance.

Yes it is a must win.
A win takes us above them and onto 14 points.
A defeat leaves us languishing in the relegation zone.
We need to win ten games and Watford should be one of them.

It’s one we have to win

I think so need to start winning and soon

It is.

No.

taio wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:21 pm

No.

I’m interested to know at what point games become must win for you?

I said Newcastle was a "mustn't lose" and we did. If we lose to Watford it will surely be terminal. Not NECESSARILY a must win, but DEFINITELY a mustn't lose!

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:24 pm

I’m interested to know at what point games become must win for you?

Not yet. Wednesday is a big game but if we draw on Wednesday i don't believe that means we will be relegated. You are obviously surprised at me saying this but I was perplexed at you saying Wolves away was a must win.

taio wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:28 pm

Not yet. Wednesday is a big game but if we draw on Wednesday i don't believe that means we will be relegated. You are obviously surprised at me saying this but I was perplexed at you saying Wolves away was a must win.

I think every game at the moment is a must win.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:29 pm

I think every game at the moment is a must win.

I don't. Wolves away was a decent result and point for example with so many games still to go.

taio wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:32 pm

I don't. Wolves away was a decent result and point for example with so many games still to go.

You are aware we’ve won one football match out of 15 this season?

it's more than 3 points, the damage done to the losing side will be massive.

Milltown1882 wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:33 pm

You are aware we’ve won one football match out of 15 this season?

Yes.

taio wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:28 pm

Not yet. Wednesday is a big game but if we draw on Wednesday i don't believe that means we will be relegated. You are obviously surprised at me saying this but I was perplexed at you saying Wolves away was a must win.

How about.... when you must win, or something bad will happen?

There can be important to win games, 6 pointers, etc..... but MUST win is in the name,

To be honest, I’m getting to the stage where I don’t really care.

I'd take a much better attacking performance to be honest

We've certainly successfully shored up at the back, but at the cost of nearly all our creative and goal scoring spark that was there

I think a defeat wouldn't be terminal, but a defeat and a terrible performance possibly could be

dandeclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:35 pm

How about.... when you must win, or something bad will happen?

There can be important to win games, 6 pointers, etc..... but MUST win is in the name,

Exactly. Wednesday is a very important game. But if we say draw it doesn't mean it will or is very likely to be terminal or catastrophic which is what I regard as 'must win'. Must win games rarely occur in December with 23 games still to play.

The "must win" games generally occur in, say, the last eight or ten games of the season when you are lnot winning enough points and games are running out.

We could beat Watford handsomely and then lose the next two or three. A win would be a massive boost short -term, a defeat a massive blow short-term but that's all - nothing, absolutely nothing will be determined one way or another.

Level of performance and our approach will be of vital importance.

evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:46 pm

The "must win" games generally occur in, say, the last eight or ten games of the season when you are lnot winning enough points and games are running out.

We could beat Watford handsomely and then lose the next two or three. A win would be a massive boost short -term, a defeat a massive blow short-term but that's all - nothing, absolutely nothing will be determined one way or another.

Level of performance and our approach will be of vital importance.

I disagree, we need short term wins to put us in a position to be able to attract players in January.

If we are 6-8 points adrift no decent player would want to come

A draw wouldn’t be an unmitigated disaster but I’d lump on us getting relegated if we fail to pick up all three points.

BurnleyFC wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:01 pm

A draw wouldn’t be an unmitigated disaster but I’d lump on us getting relegated if we fail to pick up all three points.

If Burnley were to lose, what price would you want in order to "Lump On"?

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:01 pm

Every game is must win until we are out of this mess.

7-8 wins required from 23 games. They have got to start coming from somewhere

So every game isn't must win then?

dandeclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:03 pm

If Burnley were to lose, what price would you want in order to "Lump On"?

It’s just a saying, Dan, but if I was a betting man (and I’m not) then whatever they’re offering.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:58 pm

I disagree, we need short term wins to put us in a position to be able to attract players in January.

If we are 6-8 points adrift no decent player would want to come

What happens if we don't win a must win game?

Both games were must win 2 points dropped today. We now need 3 points against a very average Watford team
Attack from the off no excuses

taio wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:09 pm

What happens if we don't win a must win game?

I think you can class these games as must win because if we don’t we won’t attract the players in Jan to keep us up

We really need a win, not particularly because it's Watford but because we need to reach 40ish points and we won't do it with draws alone

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:11 pm

I think you can class these games as must win because if we don’t we won’t attract the players in Jan to keep us up

It's an odd way of defining a must win game

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:10 pm

Both games were must win 2 points dropped today. We now need 3 points against a very average Watford team
Attack from the off no excuses

,we started the game on 10 points we ended the game on 11 points, that's 1 point gained not 2 points dropped

I think it is more important for moral going into Christmas, rather than point value. No matter how professional a player is it is easier to play well in mid table than around the bottom. The sooner we get out the better the football and the higher we finish.

A defeat or draw wouldn't finish our season, but we really need to dent our relegation rivals, so yes for me it's a game we have to treat as a must win.

I'd have settled for 4 points against the Hammers and Watford, however if we could only win 1 it would be the latter, simply because it ensures we climb out of the bottom 3, I think for the 1st time this season, and purely for belief that would be a huge boost.

It's strange talking about must win games when we've only lost 2 in 10, but the amount of draws isn't doing us any favours, so although points are welcome against the likes of Chelsea & West Ham, it's the 6 pointers playing those around us that will ultimately determine our fate.

100% must win.

Last 31 Premier home games we have beaten only 6 teams WAT, PAL, WOL, SHEFF, VILLA, BRENT, and only Watford and Sheff Unt went down ,Since Covid we have been rubbish at home WHY