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McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:37 pm
by NewClaret
One of our best players, no doubt, but absolutely no use to us with his back to goal. So often he picks the ball up facing Pope.
We need to get him hugging the touch line again if we want to start creating more chances this season, albeit the balls he did play today were very poor by his usual standards.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:40 pm
by Burnley1989
Hes our best player, and I’d not criticise him but he’d certainly excel playing at a side that suited him.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:41 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
Burnley1989 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:40 pm
Hes our best player, and I’d not criticise him but he’d certainly excel playing at a side that suited him.
100%, he will go onto bigger things and be excellent. We are hindering him so much.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:42 pm
by minnieclaret
Wonderful first touch, always has the ball under his spell, works his socks off for the team but he’s not the player he was when he came into the side. Personally I’d rather have that guy back.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:45 pm
by TheFamilyCat
I get the feeling he wants to play like that himself and chooses to drop deep, play more centrally and pick up the ball from the back four.
I would never criticise him for wanting the ball but there is very little impact he can make in those positions.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:45 pm
by bobinho
The worry was when he broke into the team that his attacking instinct would be coached out of him. Is that where we are now with Dwight?
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:47 pm
by NewClaret
Dyche just needs to tell him to hug the touchline & get crosses in!
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:50 pm
by PadihamThickNeck
Take the claret tinted specs off, he wouldn’t get in any other side in the league.
Offers nothing and very lightweight.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:51 pm
by Sheedyclaret
Hes looks broken playing with no confidence
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:51 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
McNeil is by far a country mile our best player. We just desperately need some quality around him
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:54 pm
by Elizabeth
bobinho wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:45 pm
The worry was when he broke into the team that his attacking instinct would be coached out of him. Is that where we are now with Dwight?
I don’t think it’s been coached out of him , I just think with early season goals coming down Taylor’s side he’s been asked to play in a certain way.
We have certainly looked back to our best defensively in recent games and it’s a shame that we don’t have central midfield players that can create. It’s always seems to be McNeil who gets the criticism from a certain section when we don’t create anything , as was the case today
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:56 pm
by taio
Today McNeil had the highest pass completion rate, the most key passes, the second highest number of touches and the most crosses
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:01 pm
by nil_desperandum
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:51 pm
McNeil is by far a country mile our best player.
Better than Pope "BY A COUNTRY MILE" - really??
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:02 pm
by warksclaret
Thought he played well today. Becoming one of our best passers , finding men with space. However the best chance today was at the end when Charlie Taylor managed to work the ball to the byline and flash it across goal, where Rodriguez was inches from scoring. This is what we need to see Dwight doing.Taylor proved to be our best attacker
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:03 pm
by ksrclaret
There was a point in the first half when McNeil span away from a couple of West Ham players and was running down the left side, looking to release a pass into Wood who should have made the run into the open left channel, but instead Wood decided to hide behind a defender and mark himself out of the game and shirk responsibility for receiving and dealing with the ball. McNeil then gave the ball away and the crowd moaned at him.
Unfortunately McNeil realises he's playing within a shite system with players who are terrified of having ball possession, so he's having to try and do it all himself and losing confidence when it inevitably doesn't come off.
Some of our senior players and management staff need to look at themselves in the mirror and decide what they're offering us at the moment.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:04 pm
by Longsidelenny1882
Why would anybody try to coach him out off playing good football don’t understand theese silly threads he will come good again sorry to say lacking confidence at the moment utc
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:06 pm
by Vegas Claret
All our players need to remember nothing moves quicker than the ball
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:06 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
nil_desperandum wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:01 pm
Better than Pope "BY A COUNTRY MILE" - really??
Yes comfortably
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:17 pm
by ClaretAL
ksrclaret wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:03 pm
There was a point in the first half when McNeil span away from a couple of West Ham players and was running down the left side, looking to release a pass into Wood who should have made the run into the open left channel, but instead Wood decided to hide behind a defender and mark himself out of the game and shirk responsibility for receiving and dealing with the ball. McNeil then gave the ball away and the crowd moaned at him.
Unfortunately McNeil realises he's playing within a shite system with players who are terrified of having ball possession, so he's having to try and do it all himself and losing confidence when it inevitably doesn't come off.
Some of our senior players and management staff need to look at themselves in the mirror and decide what they're offering us at the moment.
All down to opinions mate, but cant agree with that. Dwight has been missing all season and I really do feel for Charlie covering the whole left hand side while Dwight wanders midfield, or when Dwight is on the left he just does a a 10 touch 360 degrees turn and inevitably passes it to Charlie or back to Mee. I dont know whether he has been instructed to go central, but he has dropped a lot of his creativity, although all those passes back to our CB will count as a pass completion.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:21 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
ClaretAL wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:17 pm
All down to opinions mate, but cant agree with that. Dwight has been missing all season and I really do feel for Charlie covering the whole left hand side while Dwight wanders midfield, or when Dwight is on the left he just does a a 10 touch 360 degrees turn and inevitably passes it to Charlie or back to Mee. I dont know whether he has been instructed to go central, but he has dropped a lot of his creativity, although all those passes back to our CB will count as a pass completion.
Ok, let’s break this down. What do you expect McNeil to do?
Watch back todays game and pay special attention to where he receives the ball and the opposition players.
You will note that because our passing is so rank bad he is suffocated almost instantly.
If we want the best of McNeil he has to be given the space to do something.
It’s not a coincidence the decline in Wood and Mcneils output and our rapid decline in ability in CM. Once that area is resolved McNeil and wood will make a turn in form because they will have space and time.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:21 pm
by MACCA
nil_desperandum wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:01 pm
Better than Pope "BY A COUNTRY MILE" - really??
Surely he doesn't mean England international Pope?
Then again Cornet is also in this team, and Wood and... ah forget it, best to ignore these people.
clearly a throw away comment with nothing much to back it up.
Some people don't know their onions from their elbow
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:24 pm
by Vegas Claret
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:25 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
MACCA wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:21 pm
Surely he doesn't mean England international Pope?
Then again Cornet is also in this team, and Wood and... ah forget it, best to ignore these people.
clearly a throw away comment with nothing much to back it up.
Some people don't know their onions from their elbow
Ok, at the same age Pope was on the bench in league 2. He’s a good player but he has found his level (lower end premier league player).
McNeil has over 100 premier league appearances and will inevitably move onto greater things.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:26 pm
by Sheedyclaret
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:51 pm
McNeil is by far a country mile our best player. We just desperately need some quality around him
Our best player is currently injured
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:27 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
Sheedyclaret wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:26 pm
Our best player is currently injured
Difficult to judge on such a short Burnley career.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:31 pm
by MACCA
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:27 pm
Difficult to judge on such a short Burnley career.
Judge him on international caps, CL experience and goals.
He could not play again this season and out stat McNeil.
Stop digging the hole.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:32 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
MACCA wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:31 pm
Judge him on international caps, CL experience and goals.
He could not play again this season and out stat McNeil.
Stop digging the hole.
We will see, he is a lot older and his career has stalled the last couple of seasons.
IMO he was poor In his last two games. Let’s just hope it was a blip. Certainly too early to say he is our best player.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:38 pm
by Burnley Ace
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:41 pm
100%, he will go onto bigger things and be excellent. We are hindering him so much.
He will end up like Tom Ince. It might help if he could kick the ball with his right foot.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:42 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
Burnley Ace wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:38 pm
He will end up like Tom Ince. It might help if he could kick the ball with his right foot.
He has already done and achieved more than Ince. Nonsensical
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:44 pm
by bobinho
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:27 pm
Difficult to judge on such a short Burnley career.
No it isn’t.
It’s blatantly obvious to anyone with at least one eye that Cornet is our best player. No arguments, no discussion, no “yeah but, no but” it’s just a true
story. McNeil is a very good player, trying his hardest to make a difference in his position, but Cornet is better and so is Pope.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:46 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
Well we've certainly had confirmation over the last few days, that Newcastleclaret93 is an absolute balloon.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:47 pm
by taio
And McNeil is not a better than Tarkowski and Mee by a country mile either.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:51 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:46 pm
Well we've certainly had confirmation over the last few days, that Newcastleclaret93 is an absolute balloon.
Haha we will see in the long run. I was called the same for calling out Brownhill 18 months ago as well. Look who was proved right.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:52 pm
by SalisburyClaret
Difficult to know what people want from McNeil, he has excellent control and balance, beats a man easily, crosses the ball well, good passer and hard working - and he’s not even our best player.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:52 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:46 pm
Well we've certainly had confirmation over the last few days, that Newcastleclaret93 is an absolute balloon.
Another poster that can’t have a discussion without being offensive. I imagine this post will soon be locked now.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:53 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
taio wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:47 pm
And McNeil is not a better than Tarkowski and Mee by a country mile either.
Again we will see who goes on to have the better career
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:56 pm
by taio
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:53 pm
Again we will see who goes on to have the better career
You said he is already our best player by a country mile. That's simply not the case.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:59 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
taio wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:56 pm
You said he is already our best player by a country mile. That's simply not the case.
IMO he is.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:00 pm
by taio
Your opinion is emphatically wrong.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:04 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
taio wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:00 pm
Your opinion is emphatically wrong.
I think yours is
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:07 pm
by RalphCoatesComb
Just enjoy watching him play whilst he's with us
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:09 pm
by Lancasterclaret
He's a good player no doubt
He needs some help though
If Maxwell is fit on Wednesday, I'd probably play him on the wing, just so that Watford have more than one threat to deal with
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:12 pm
by 1914tyrone
He's annoyingly half hearted off the ball and tracking back.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:14 pm
by Sheedyclaret
Feel sorry for Charlie taylor has to cover the whole left side of the pitch at the moment..
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:19 pm
by Burnley1989
Tin hat, I actually agree with Newcastle…
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:29 pm
by Jimmymaccer
PadihamThickNeck wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:50 pm
Take the claret tinted specs off, he wouldn’t get in any other side in the league.
Offers nothing and very lightweight.
Pardon?
Can’t do it on his own.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:37 pm
by Stayingup
taio wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:47 pm
And McNeil is not a better than Tarkowski and Mee by a country mile either.
Or Charlie Taylor.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:45 pm
by jrgbfc
Shows what years of Dycheball has done when some of our fans judge our most creative player on how much he tracks back. No wonder the lad looks like he's had the life sucked out of him.
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:45 pm
by Spike
Dwight has disappointed me this season. When was the last time he had you on the edge of your seat or out of it
Amongst others he needs to hold onto the ball more and have a positive impact on games more often
It’s criminal that none of our players can hit the target from a free kick
Re: McNeil
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:49 pm
by joey13
jrgbfc wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:45 pm
Shows what years of Dycheball has done when some of our fans judge our most creative player on how much he tracks back. No wonder the lad looks like he's had the life sucked out of him.
Had the life sucked out of him
he’s playing football for a living
