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Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:09 pm
by ClaretTony
Apparently the women’s manager Matt Bee has gone

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:09 pm
by Bosscat
Seem to be going through a lot of staff throughout the club 🤔

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:13 pm
by ClaretTony
Bosscat wrote:
Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:09 pm
Seem to be going through a lot of staff throughout the club 🤔
Incredible number.


This is what they’ve reported on Bee.


As Burnley FC Women continue transitioning to a more professional level, Matt Bee will be leaving his post as first team manager.

We are grateful for Matt’s time and achievements at Burnley and wish him the best for the future.

The Club will not be commenting further at this time but will communicate additional details in due course.

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:13 pm
by BurnleyPaul
Jump or push I wonder…?

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:14 pm
by ClaretTony
BurnleyPaul wrote:
Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:13 pm
Jump or push I wonder…?
It reads as if it’s a club decision

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:15 pm
by BurnleyFC
What odds on an American manager taking the reins?

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:15 pm
by randomclaret2
Id rather they concentrated 100% on staying in the Premier League above everything else. Maybe they are, who knows.

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:16 pm
by BurnleyPaul
ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:14 pm
It reads as if it’s a club decision
Certainly does.

I’d imagine then that a replacement has already been identified, sounded out etc and that it’s just a case of signing a contract…

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:19 pm
by burnleymik
Pitch fork away. I thought they were going after Bertie...

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:19 pm
by Devils_Advocate
Had to go after the cup defeat

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:22 pm
by Peter Loo
Well well I wonder who “she” will be.

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:23 pm
by Wuggawumphwumph
Had me worried for a minute then thought it were Bertie

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:23 pm
by tiger76
burnleymik wrote:
Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:19 pm
Pitch fork away. I thought they were going after Bertie...
Yes that was my first instinct when I read the thread title, damn these peeps that post clickbait. :lol:

I must confess I don't know much about the women's team beyond their results, which seem to have been somewhat mixed this season, however clearly those in charge feel it's the right time to make a change.

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:38 pm
by ClaretTony
tiger76 wrote:
Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:23 pm
Yes that was my first instinct when I read the thread title, damn these peeps that post clickbait. :lol:

I must confess I don't know much about the women's team beyond their results, which seem to have been somewhat mixed this season, however clearly those in charge feel it's the right time to make a change.
You’ve more interest than me if you know the results.

But as for clickbait - I could have posted ‘Burnley part company with manager’.

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:40 pm
by Bosscat
ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:38 pm
You’ve more interest than me if you know the results.

But as for clickbait - I could have posted ‘Burnley part company with manager’.
😂

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:45 pm
by Wokingclaret
Crystal ball moment

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:48 pm
by BurnleyPaul
Peter Loo wrote:
Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:22 pm
Well well I wonder who “she” will be.
Rachel Brown-Finnis?

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 11:48 pm
by Funkydrummer
Peter Loo wrote:
Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:22 pm
Well well I wonder who “she” will be.
Mrs Pace ?

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:03 am
by RalphCoatesComb
Wuggawumphwumph wrote:
Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:23 pm
Had me worried for a minute then thought it were Bertie
There are some staff that are irreplaceable :o

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:12 am
by Quickenthetempo
RalphCoatesComb wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:03 am
There are some staff that are irreplaceable :o
Must be at least 10 people played the role of Bertie Bee over time.

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:23 am
by elwaclaret
Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:12 am
Must be at least 10 people played the role of Bertie Bee over time.
Yes but there is only one real one.

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:03 am
by CharlieinNewMexico
BurnleyFC wrote:
Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:15 pm
What odds on an American manager taking the reins?
Wouldn’t get a permit at our women’s level 🤷

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:24 am
by mkmel
Phil Neville?

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:46 am
by Peter Loo
mkmel wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:24 am
Phil Neville?
You mean the failed Phil Neville .. that one :?: ;)

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:53 am
by mkmel
Yes that Phil Neville 😏

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:01 am
by Peter Loo
There is one name that might turn a few heads but very very unlikely to be appointed because the person has been associated with London clubs in her illustrious career.

That person is now retired and certainly no longer involved with the top mainstream of womens football management that I can see.

.. Any guesses as to whom I am alluding to?

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:13 am
by gawthorpe_view
Peter Loo wrote:
Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:22 pm
Well well I wonder who “she” will be.
Well they said 'transitioning' so I guess all options are open.

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:29 am
by The Enclosure
Hope Powell or perhaps Mark Sampson ?

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:40 am
by Peter Loo
The Enclosure wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:29 am
Hope Powell or perhaps Mark Sampson ?
Hope Powell is correct, well played Enclosure :)

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:42 am
by claptrappers_union
Sky Sports would announce it as “Burnley sacking the manager”. They hardly differentiate the two sports now

The amount of times I’ve switched on Sky Sports News and they have some woman with headphones on describing a match and is taken me a while to cotton on that they are reporting on a WSL game.

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:16 am
by MrTopTier
Peter Loo wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:01 am
There is one name that might turn a few heads but very very unlikely to be appointed because the person has been associated with London clubs in her illustrious career.

That person is now retired and certainly no longer involved with the top mainstream of womens football management that I can see.

.. Any guesses as to whom I am alluding to?
Hope Powell is first team manager at Brighton

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:31 am
by NewClaret
Feel sorry for Matt Bee.

Don’t know much about his background but seemed a good bloke, achieved promotion, understood the ethos and fabric of the club and seemed to be building something slowly with the woman's team. Also see him in the alongside on match days so I assume he’s a fan. In that sense, a new role in the Academy structure might’ve been fair.

Can’t really see how we’ll beat that unless we’re willing to pay some big money for a manager. That said, does feel like a statement of intent from the new ownership. I just hope they replace him with someone materially more experienced vs their own man/woman. Some of the appointments on the business-side don’t immediately present as upgrades on their successors.

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:37 am
by CharlieinNewMexico
NewClaret wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:31 am
Feel sorry for Matt Bee.

Don’t know much about his background but seemed a good bloke, achieved promotion, understood the ethos and fabric of the club and seemed to be building something slowly with the woman's team. Also see him in the alongside on match days so I assume he’s a fan. In that sense, a new role in the Academy structure might’ve been fair.

Can’t really see how we’ll beat that unless we’re willing to pay some big money for a manager. That said, does feel like a statement of intent from the new ownership. I just hope they replace him with someone materially more experienced vs their own man/woman. Some of the appointments on the business-side don’t immediately present as upgrades on their successors.
Do you have to immediately present as an upgrade on the business side or can you take your time to evaluate and finally go “Jesus. Can’t believe this has been happening “

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:49 am
by RalphCoatesComb
Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:12 am
Must be at least 10 people played the role of Bertie Bee over time.
:o :o :o You'll be telling us next that Father Christmas is a woman! :o :o :o

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:52 am
by Peter Loo
MrTopTier wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:16 am
Hope Powell is first team manager at Brighton
So she is I completely missed that so thanks for that info.

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:52 am
by NewClaret
RalphCoatesComb wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:49 am
:o :o :o You'll be telling us next that Father Christmas is a woman! :o :o :o
Non binary, most likely.

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:55 am
by ClaretTony
Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:12 am
Must be at least 10 people played the role of Bertie Bee over time.
Last season's Bertie Bee is now at Blackburn

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:58 am
by claretonthecoast1882
ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:55 am
Last season's Bertie Bee is now at Blackburn

He's not the one scoring all the goals for them this season is he ? :D

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:59 am
by RalphCoatesComb
NewClaret wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:52 am
Non binary, most likely.
Unfortunately, I was asked "How do you identify yourself?" last week. :?

"I look in the mirror!" WTF?!

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:01 am
by boatshed bill
Ah, the cut-throat world of women's football.

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:10 am
by claptrappers_union
Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 12:12 am
Must be at least 10 people played the role of Bertie Bee over time.
Since the main ‘Bertie’ left, Its been many different people, just community staff mainly on a game by game basis.

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:15 am
by Billy Balfour
Let's hope he keeps busy.

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:02 am
by Hipper
Are we going to start reporting on women's football on here now? If you are could you set up a separate forum as I'm not interested in women's football and a headline like the one here offers no clue that it is on that subject.

This mixing up of the male and female sections of sport as if they are one seems to be happening in all media and it is confusing.

I'm not against female sport, just not interested.

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:42 am
by BLH_Claret
Not surprised really. The club are looking to push the woman’s team forward and with all due respect and admittedly knowing nothing about this chap or his coaching qualifications, he came across as an enthusiastic amateur. I’m sure the club will be looking for someone with experience at a higher level who can attract better players and push the team forward.

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:57 am
by NewClaret
CharlieinNewMexico wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:37 am
Do you have to immediately present as an upgrade on the business side or can you take your time to evaluate and finally go “Jesus. Can’t believe this has been happening “
My comment wasn’t really intended as a negative against those hires, just an observation that they’ve not “gone big” in their appointments to date so it’ll be interesting to see if this is a statement replacement or just “their own man/woman”.

As a general rule, PE houses bring in their own people eventually, which is fair enough. I partly expected some big appointments, particularly in the recruitment/scouting space, which haven’t happened (yet). My main hope is that all the new guys are driven, energised and ambitious enough to move us forward, otherwise it’s a risk to replace the experience. Certainly one where AP will need to tread very carefully.

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:00 am
by NewClaret
BLH_Claret wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:42 am
Not surprised really. The club are looking to push the woman’s team forward and with all due respect and admittedly knowing nothing about this chap or his coaching qualifications, he came across as an enthusiastic amateur. I’m sure the club will be looking for someone with experience at a higher level who can attract better players and push the team forward.
Tbf, I don’t either, although I’d wager an “enthusiastic amateur” was all we could hope for when he was appointed and he’s earned the right through promotion to be given some time to build on his experience and establish himself.

Although if they are planning investment in the womens team, maybe it’s right to do that with someone they feel can take it to the next level.

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:18 am
by Superjohnnyfrancis
Whos he been shagging :)

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:49 am
by Billy Balfour
Your mum.

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:53 am
by NewClaret
Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:18 am
Whos he been shagging :)
Always got to suspect the poorest player in the startling line up? :lol:

Although in all seriousness, nobody ever knows the full story behind these decisions.

Re: Burnley part company with Bee

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:59 am
by IanMcL
This one seems logical to me.

Mr Bee has done very well to get this far, however, if the club are serious, then an upgrade is essential. This will attract a wider group of professionals.

Thank you Matt Bee.