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7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:04 am
by Socrates
Is that right? I’ve gone through the fixtures and that’s how I get it.
Fairly stark stats those. Shows how tough a year it’s been.
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:19 am
by jedi_master
It is correct.
I have personally not seen Burnley win at Turf Moor in 2021 (was ill when we played Villa, was at a wedding when we beat Brentford).
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:45 am
by claptrappers_union
Yeah, stay away please
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:53 am
by duncandisorderly
Robert Lewandoski has scored more goals than we have this year.
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:03 am
by randomclaret2
Not many managers wouldnt be under severe pressure with that record
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:16 am
by Buxtonclaret
We have had a lot of snow though....
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:27 am
by tiger76
It makes grim reading doesn't it, thankfully we are still in touch, and have time left to rectify our situation.
However if we are to survive our form at TM will need to improve, that said it is slowly getting better, last 4 at home we've won 1 and drawn 3, so it's just a case of turning the draws into wins that's been a persistent problem.
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:38 am
by FCBurnley
Only 2 wins at home in a calendar year is A shocking stat. Fortress Turf Moor Sean ?
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:45 am
by beddie
FCBurnley wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:38 am
Only 2 wins at home in a calendar year is A shocking stat. Fortress Turf Moor Sean ?
Im not making this an excuse but for some really bad officiating decisions and I really mean that the home wins would be much greater.
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:56 am
by ElectroClaret
beddie wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:45 am
Im not making this an excuse but for some really bad officiating decisions and I really mean that the home wins would be much greater.
True.
And, it has to be said, better finishing.
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:29 pm
by Shaggy
ElectroClaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:56 am
True.
And, it has to be said, better finishing.
Whilst your not wrong in a sense but the view is with claret tinted specs. How many times has Pope pulled off a save, or the opposing team missed the target or the likes of Taylor put in a last ditch tackle/ block?
We aren’t playing much differently from usual it’s just that we are on the wrong side of the important moments. We aren’t set up to play any other way and don’t have the quality to change anything when it’s going against us.
We could quite easily steal a few wins and scrape survival but we are way beyond a squad rebuild now.
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:34 pm
by MACCA
jedi_master wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:19 am
It is correct.
I have personally not seen Burnley win at Turf Moor in 2021 (was ill when we played Villa, was at a wedding when we beat Brentford).
Without sounding rude, can you miss a few more...
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:45 pm
by Vegas Claret
fortunately 2022 is nearly here
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:45 pm
by claret2018
Shocking results over 12 months. It’s not a dip in form, we’ve been a bad side for ages now. If we don’t win the next 2 or 3 then serious questions need to be asked
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:50 pm
by Zom Zom
I don’t think it’s fair to lay much blame at the feet of SD. He has had his hands tied financially as we know, while those around us added to their ranks over the last few windows.
Signs of signings to improve us are promising if we are looking at the quality of the likes Cornet.
Keep the faith folks. UTC
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:51 pm
by jedi_master
MACCA wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:34 pm
Without sounding rude, can you miss a few more...
I sadly think it’s a certainty I’ll be missing a few more, but we all will be!
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:51 pm
by Johma
City had 34 wins this year in comparison?
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:51 pm
by Hibsclaret
As shocking a stat as it is and for all the bed wetting and doom mongering on here you would think we were marooned at the bottom of the league with that record. In fact we have a great chance and will most likely stay up yet again.
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:52 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
Zom Zom wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:50 pm
I don’t think it’s fair to lay much blame at the feet of SD. He has had his hands tied financially as we know, while those around us added to their ranks over the last few windows.
Signs of signings to improve us are promising if we are looking at the quality of the likes Cornet.
Keep the faith folks. UTC
I think a proportion of the blame has to be aimed at Dyche. He’s the one that has kept so many ageing players (publicly demanding the old owners offered them contracts). Similarly he’s also wasted a wage on resigning Lennon.
Let’s see what happens, he’s got half a season to turn it all around
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:00 pm
by claret2018
He’s been manager for 9 years of course it’s down to him.
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:06 pm
by taio
claret2018 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:00 pm
He’s been manager for 9 years of course it’s down to him.
Not exclusively it isn't and in any case he has significantly overachieved
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:52 pm
by boatshed bill
taio wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:06 pm
Not exclusively it isn't and in any case he has significantly overachieved
Overachieved? Perhaps, but at the cost of not rejuvenating the squad, the choices of who we've signed and handed extended contracts to have been his.
However, the buck stops with the board.
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:55 pm
by minnieclaret
2022 will be much better.
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:55 pm
by taio
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:52 pm
Overachieved? Perhaps, but at the cost of not rejuvenating the squad, the choices of who we've signed and handed extended contracts to have been his.
However, the buck stops with the board.
Yes - overachieved...no perhaps about it. Of course he's responsible for the squads he has assembled within the constraints set by the Board. That's why that is not exclusively down to Dyche.
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:11 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Newcastle have conceded 79 league goals in this calendar year. The joint most ever.
We just felt sorry for them and didn't want to make it worse
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:21 pm
by dandeclaret
Not just overachieved, but continues to do so.....
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:33 pm
by Spijed
dandeclaret wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:21 pm
Not just overachieved, but continues to do so.....
Our 7th place finish with our resources to qualify for Europe must go down as one of the best achievements in modern football.
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:46 pm
by boatshed bill
dandeclaret wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:21 pm
Not just overachieved, but continues to do so.....
7 wins in a year is overachieving?
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:50 pm
by taio
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:46 pm
7 wins in a year is overachieving?
Is six seasons and counting in the PL not, without doubt, overachieving?
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:54 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
I would say our two top ten finishes were over achieving.
Staying in the prem is just achieving.
Relegation is under achieving
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:55 pm
by boatshed bill
taio wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:50 pm
Is six seasons and counting in the PL not, without doubt, overachieving?
I wasn't commenting on the 6 seasons, merely the last 12 months. I don't think SD has done very well during this period because 7 wins a year (excluding easy cup games won) is not what I would call overachievement.
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:08 pm
by Boss Hogg
Our run of form is dreadful and it’s not been good for 12 months. Dyche hasn’t been helped by repeated poor windows though. We had such a weak squad at the beginning of last season ( down to Garlick) that I don’t think another manager could have done better with it. This window we signed Lennon and Roberts who hasn’t played. Cornet of course looks good but it’s one player only to have impacted the team. Dyche should be questioned but for me the games are tight and we are not been thrashed. Think a couple of decent players ( midfield /striker) could sort us out until Summer.
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:11 pm
by Milltown1882
Boss Hogg wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:08 pm
Our run of form is dreadful and it’s not been good for 12 months. Dyche hasn’t been helped by repeated poor windows though. We had such a weak squad at the beginning of last season ( down to Garlick) that I don’t think another manager could have done better with it. This window we signed Lennon and Roberts who hasn’t played. Cornet of course looks good but it’s one player only to have impacted the team. Dyche should be questioned but for me the games are tight and we are not been thrashed. Think a couple of decent players ( midfield /striker) could sort us out until Summer.
Those last two sentences are exactly what 14/15 was like, we’re heading down the same path.
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:14 pm
by dandeclaret
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:46 pm
7 wins in a year is overachieving?
Remaining in this league continues to be overachieving. If that's with 38 draws, 12 wins, or a mix of them, it remains the same in my mind.
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:15 pm
by boatshed bill
Spijed wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:33 pm
Our 7th place finish with our resources to qualify for Europe must go down as one of the best achievements in modern football.
or at least in the history of Burnley Football Club
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:19 pm
by Spijed
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:15 pm
or at least in the history of Burnley Football Club
I can't see any other club of a similar size getting into Europe in the foreseeable future.
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:23 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
Spijed wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:19 pm
I can't see any other club of a similar size getting into Europe in the foreseeable future.
Haven’t
Wolves, Fulham, Hull, Leeds, Ipswich etc… all played in Europe relatively recently?
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:24 pm
by boatshed bill
Spijed wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:19 pm
I can't see any other club of a similar size getting into Europe in the foreseeable future.
It was indeed a fine achievement, but wouldn't be seen by many outside BurnleyFC and its supporters as "one of the greatest achievements in modern football"
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:46 pm
by Spijed
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:23 pm
Haven’t
Wolves, Fulham, Hull, Leeds, Ipswich etc… all played in Europe relatively recently?
Both Wolves & Fulham have riches beyond our wildest dreams, Hull got in via finishing runners-up in the FA Cup. and both Leeds & Ipswich competed at a time when there was little money in football in comparison to today.
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:47 pm
by Spijed
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:24 pm
It was indeed a fine achievement, but wouldn't be seen by many outside BurnleyFC and its supporters as "one of the greatest achievements in modern football"
Aside from Leicester winning the League I can't think of any better ones, can you?
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:50 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
Spijed wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:47 pm
Aside from Leicester winning the League I can't think of any better ones, can you?
Wigan Fa cup?
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:53 pm
by Spijed
Weren't they bank rolled by Dave Whelan with far more money than we've ever had?
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:54 pm
by boatshed bill
Spijed wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:47 pm
Aside from Leicester winning the League I can't think of any better ones, can you?
Well, I think most people would say winning the Champions League slightly edges it
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:57 pm
by taio
Spijed wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:53 pm
Weren't they bank rolled by Dave Whelan with far more money than we've ever had?
Wigan winning the FA Cup immediately springs to mind too. Along with Porto winning the Champions League.
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:57 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
Spijed wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:53 pm
Weren't they bank rolled by Dave Whelan with far more money than we've ever had?
I’m just not sure how anything can be deemed the best achievement when we didn’t win anything.
It was fantastic but we didn’t win anything
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:27 pm
by tarkys_ears
Spijed wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:53 pm
Weren't they bank rolled by Dave Whelan with far more money than we've ever had?
You think they saw a billion quid over 7 or 8 years?
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:20 pm
by Quickenthetempo
I don't think if we finished 7th in the champions league it would class as the greatest achievement in modern football.
Certainly not by anyone from outside Burnley.
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:51 pm
by tiger76
dandeclaret wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 6:14 pm
Remaining in this league continues to be overachieving. If that's with 38 draws, 12 wins, or a mix of them, it remains the same in my mind.
Precisely! and it seems some posters can't see the cracking job SD has done and continues to do, yes we'd all like to improve our home form, but we're 1 win away from climbing out of the relegation zone, and our recent form is much more encouraging, and suggests that we will yet again defy the odds and remain in the PL.
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:23 pm
by boatshed bill
tiger76 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:51 pm
Precisely! and it seems some posters can't see the cracking job SD has done and continues to do, yes we'd all like to improve our home form, but we're 1 win away from climbing out of the relegation zone, and our recent form is much more encouraging, and suggests that we will yet again defy the odds and remain in the PL.
I'm not sure that's a fair analysis of opinions on this thread.
I think most of us agree SD has done a good job, the problem is some believe he is better than good, and they will go to any lengths to try to prove it.
Re: 7 League wins in 2021. Only 2 at home.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:27 pm
by Rombald
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:23 pm
I'm not sure that's a fair analysis of opinions on this thread.
I think most of us agree SD has done a good job, the problem is some believe he is better than good, and they will go to any lengths to try to prove it.
A "good " job. It's far more than that. Overachieving doesn't really come close
