Doing the rounds on Twitter this game is now postponed

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:27 pm

Doing the rounds on Twitter this game is now postponed

No idea but given Sours played in the EFL Cup only a few days ago they should be able to play, so unless there's a problem at Palace's end I don't see any reason why it shouldn't go ahead.

However given how quickly fixtures are falling by the wayside nothing would surprise me anymore.

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 25, 2021 10:06 pm

No idea but given Sours played in the EFL Cup only a few days ago they should be able to play, so unless there's a problem at Palace's end I don't see any reason why it shouldn't go ahead.

However given how quickly fixtures are falling by the wayside nothing would surprise me anymore.

Apparently a number of the Palace back room staff have tested positive. I can only assume a large majority of the squad must not be vaccinated for this to be postponed

Daily mail etc… now saying it looks like it is off.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 25, 2021 10:09 pm

Apparently a number of the Palace back room staff have tested positive. I can only assume a large majority of the squad must not be vaccinated for this to be postponed

Daily mail etc… now saying it looks like it is off.

Somewhat ironic if true given that Selhurst Park was given over several times during the summer for use as a Covid vaccination centre.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 25, 2021 10:09 pm

Apparently a number of the Palace back room staff have tested positive. I can only assume a large majority of the squad must not be vaccinated for this to be postponed

Daily mail etc… now saying it looks like it is off.

What has their vaccination status go to do with it? We know you can still catch covid having been vaccinated, so surely this isn’t the issue.

DCWat wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:23 am

What has their vaccination status go to do with it? We know you can still catch covid having been vaccinated, so surely this isn’t the issue.

Different isolation rules for unvaccinated. Vaccinated close contacts don't have to isolate, unvaccinated close contacts do. A number of clubs, like Watford, simply don't care about following covid guidelines because it's easier just to call a game off rather than follow some fairly simple rules.

It goes against the concept that certain clubs are purposely deploying subterfuge with the fixture postponements & brazenly dismissing the plausibility of genuine COVID cases, it’s strange why palace wouldn’t want to play this unlikely to be relegated & no further ambitions elsewhere.

DCWat wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:23 am

What has their vaccination status go to do with it? We know you can still catch covid having been vaccinated, so surely this isn’t the issue.

Because if they are unvaccinated they have to isolate if a close contact

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:50 am

Because if they are unvaccinated they have to isolate if a close contact

What constitutes a 'close contact'?

Sean Dyche's Watch wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:20 am

What constitutes a 'close contact'?

No idea what palaces policy is, however I believe most places have embraced the 2m rule. If you have spent time within 2m of the contact you are classed as close contact.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:24 am

No idea what palaces policy is, however I believe most places have embraced the 2m rule. If you have spent time within 2m of the contact you are classed as close contact.

That many people are getting it do you really think people are following the rules or even give a sh1t I don’t.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:27 am

That many people are getting it do you really think people are following the rules or even give a sh1t I don’t.

I don’t think people are following the rules but I suspect that is why Palace have asked for the game to called off. Too many players now having to isolate

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:46 am

I don’t think people are following the rules but I suspect that is why Palace have asked for the game to called off. Too many players now having to isolate

It’s meant to be less severe than the other variants people are going to get it anyway we need to all crack on with our life’s & act normal & accept the vast majority of the people are going to have the symptoms of a common cold.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 9:04 am

It’s meant to be less severe than the other variants people are going to get it anyway we need to all crack on with our life’s & act normal & accept the vast majority of the people are going to have the symptoms of a common cold.

It’s not me that’s makes the rules haha. Email the government

Looks like the PL are going to force Palace to play. Maybe they've realised they need to start getting a bit tougher or else the season will never get finished.

Zaha been called-up for Africa Cup.

jrgbfc wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 11:03 am

Looks like the PL are going to force Palace to play. Maybe they've realised they need to start getting a bit tougher or else the season will never get finished.

If that's the case then at least we know our games against Man U. & Leeds will go ahead.

jrgbfc wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 11:03 am

Looks like the PL are going to force Palace to play. Maybe they've realised they need to start getting a bit tougher or else the season will never get finished.

Shame they didn’t get tough with Everton then? If it was the other way round and Spurs were in the position Palace are in would the game still be played?

I am still massively ****** off about today by the way!

Spijed wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 11:18 am

If that's the case then at least we know our games against Man U. & Leeds will go ahead.

We don't. There could be a lot of cases at Man U, Leeds or Burnley yet that force a postponement.

Conte not complaining yet?

Spijed wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 11:18 am

If that's the case then at least we know our games against Man U. & Leeds will go ahead.

The PL will be looking at all applications for postponements on a case to case basis & palace haven’t passed the threshold required for the postponement to be granted. Everything will be based on some sort of criterion if we or anybody have insufficient numbers ours will be postponed as others will be, palace probably have enough numbers it’s extremely laughable to think that some sort of a conspiracy agenda is taking place.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:54 pm

The PL will be looking at all applications for postponements on a case to case basis & palace haven’t passed the threshold required for the postponement to be granted. Everything will be based on some sort of criterion if we or anybody have insufficient numbers ours will be postponed as others will be, palace probably have enough numbers it’s extremely laughable to think that some sort of a conspiracy agenda is taking place.

Do you really think Everton suddenly picked up a few more injuries in the space of 24 hours and genuinely couldn't field a team all of a sudden?

Even you must think they were really bending the rules, surely?

Spijed wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:58 pm

Do you really think Everton suddenly picked up a few more injuries in the space of 24 hours and genuinely couldn't field a team all of a sudden?

Even you must think they were really bending the rules, surely?

It’s possible that some could have had or more cases of covid were detected or more cases of isolation, the application had merit to be approved otherwise everybody would be trying it on.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:02 pm

It’s possible that some could have had or more cases of covid were detected or more cases of isolation, the application had merit to be approved otherwise everybody would be trying it on.

But the game got postponed due to additional injuries, not covid cases. There is no way on earth that a calf injury can be disproved, for example, if the player says it's sore.

Ans as Chris Boden tweeted:
Chris Boden
@bodenknights
·
Dec 24
Postponed because of further injuries?! Setting a dangerous precedent this.

Spijed wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:05 pm

But the game got postponed due to additional injuries, not covid cases. There is no way on earth that a calf injury can be disproved, for example, if the player says it's sore.

Ans as Chris Boden tweeted:
Chris Boden
@bodenknights
·
Dec 24
Postponed because of further injuries?! Setting a dangerous precedent this.

That was the reason that got stated yes but like I’ve already stated repeatedly if you’ve got an high number of covid cases it wouldn’t take many injuries in addition to tip the balance, people are mistakenly viewing covid & injuries as separate entities the PL are viewing them as combined, palace have mcarthur & Ferguson injured only & less covid cases than Everton did & less injuries, it’s a combined figure that’s being assessed not covid only or injuries only.

Spijed wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:05 pm

But the game got postponed due to additional injuries, not covid cases. There is no way on earth that a calf injury can be disproved, for example, if the player says it's sore.

Ans as Chris Boden tweeted:
Chris Boden
@bodenknights
·
Dec 24
Postponed because of further injuries?! Setting a dangerous precedent this.

It was both.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:11 pm

That was the reason that got stated yes but like I’ve already stated repeatedly if you’ve got an high number of covid cases it wouldn’t take many injuries in addition to tip the balance, people are mistakenly viewing covid & injuries as separate entities the PL are viewing them as combined, palace have mcarthur & Ferguson injured only & less covid cases than Everton did & less injuries, it’s a combined figure that’s being assessed not covid only or injuries only.

Everton had 15 fit outfield players (6 of whom Benitez didn't consider worth a place in the team, hence his claim of 9) when the first appeal for postponement was made. 5 had covid, 6 were injured, they have used 26 outfield players this season in the league. With their further "injuries", they are down to 13 or less.

We have used 18 outfield players. Currently Barnes, Cornet and Stephens are injured that we know about, and possibly Roberts isn't fit yet. So we have 15 or 14. If we get one more outfield injury, so our total squad excluding covid plus injuries is the same size as Everton's, can we get matches postponed?

dsr wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:22 pm

Everton had 15 fit outfield players (6 of whom Benitez didn't consider worth a place in the team, hence his claim of 9) when the first appeal for postponement was made. 5 had covid, 6 were injured, they have used 26 outfield players this season in the league. With their further "injuries", they are down to 13 or less.

We have used 18 outfield players. Currently Barnes, Cornet and Stephens are injured that we know about, and possibly Roberts isn't fit yet. So we have 15 or 14. If we get one more outfield injury, so our total squad excluding covid plus injuries is the same size as Everton's, can we get matches postponed?

If our application is approved based on merit then yes we can, I don’t know the criteria which would need to meet that though, lots of variables are in place & like for like probably would be unusual. Everton & Watford satisfied the PL with the application palace haven’t assuming palace submitted an application.

Leeds' game against Aston Villa, scheduled for Tuesday, has been postponed.

Maybe it's time for the doctors to have to sign the players off.

If they come under scrutinty and risk losing their jobs for lying or falsifying (aka Bloodgate), there'll be less injuries.


Whats going on is a joke

Sean Dyche's Watch wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:33 pm

Leeds' game against Aston Villa, scheduled for Tuesday, has been postponed.

Leeds have had it called off. Looking more and more likely next Sundays game will be off. No surprise.

thelaughingclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:44 pm

Leeds have had it called off. Looking more and more likely next Sundays game will be off. No surprise.

Providing there are no more cases then isn't the isolation period seven days (reduced from ten), so should be ok?

Spijed wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:46 pm

Providing there are no more cases then isn't the isolation period seven days (reduced from ten), so should be ok?

The isolation period depends on vaccination status doesn’t it?
I am not optimistic. If Leeds don’t want to play the game they will make sure they get the required number of injuries.

thelaughingclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:48 pm

The isolation period depends on vaccination status doesn’t it?
I am not optimistic. If Leeds don’t want to play the game they will make sure they get the required number of injuries.

Leeds are 100% vaccinated, both on field and off field staff.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:19 pm

We don't. There could be a lot of cases at Man U, Leeds or Burnley yet that force a postponement.

Every chance the Leeds game will be off alas, given they've just had their game against Villa called off.

Leeds United's Premier League game against Aston Villa on Tuesday has been postponed because of Covid-19 cases at the Yorkshire club.

Leeds' game at Liverpool on 26 December had already been called off.

A club statement said there had been no new Covid cases but the majority of those who had already tested positive were still isolating so there were not enough "recognised first-team players".

In total, 14 games in England's top flight have been postponed in December.

What caught my eye was no new covid cases, but they were still unable to field a squad apparently.

It does feel like the perfect storm at the moment in the we seem to be unlucky in getting teams that are catching the virus at the optimum time.

We are going to have a lot of games to catch up on many teams.

Sean Dyche's Watch wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:33 pm

Leeds' game against Aston Villa, scheduled for Tuesday, has been postponed.

Not surprised, Leeds against Arsenal were down to the bare bones without a single first teamer on the subs bench.

Not sure how many times the science needs banging into people’s heads. Unvaccinated means transmission is more prolific than if someone is vaccinated. The more unvaccinated people in a group OBVIOUSLY means that transmission to others is a MUCH greater risk!

Only one change to Palace’s first 11 from their last match…

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:11 pm

Only one change to Palace’s first 11 from their last match…

So why on earth did they want it postponing?

Spijed wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:12 pm

So why on earth did they want it postponing?

Because people on twitter said so & that’s what’s true & that’s we need to believe

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:44 pm

Because people on twitter said so & that’s what’s true & that’s we need to believe

Palace officially asked for it to be postponed, nothing to do with twitter

Spijed wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:49 pm

Palace officially asked for it to be postponed, nothing to do with twitter

If you look at the OP that’s where the news first broke! People on twitter were jumping the gun & prematurely claiming the match was off before the PL had even made any decision.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:52 pm

If you look at the OP that’s where the news first broke! People on twitter were jumping the gun & prematurely claiming the match was off before the PL had even made any decision.

But all I asked was why did they want it called off if they've just had to make one change.

Seems odd. Few players on the the bench missing that I can see plus the manager.

Spijed wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:54 pm

But all I asked was why did they want it called off if they've just had to make one change.

Because that’s what some people do, vieras got it so everybody associated with CPFC must have it, with some people you can have a bowl of cereal for breakfast & before you know it you’ve had a 4 course meal. Did palace even officially ask for the game to be called off I’m not sure if you can post something contrary to that fair dos.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:58 pm

Because that’s what some people do, vieras got it so everybody associated with CPFC must have it, with some people you can have a bowl of cereal for breakfast & before you know it you’ve had a 4 course meal. Did palace even officially ask for the game to be called off I’m not sure if you can post something contrary to that fair dos.

From the Guardian:

"Palace were in discussions with the Premier League on Christmas Day about postponing their trip across the capital following a number of new positive cases, but it is understood the league were dissatisfied with the late application."

Some think the world of prem football is run by saints and whose member teams (the desired ones) are as honest as the day is long.

Everything is stacked against teams like Burnley and our survival and success is nothing short of a miracle.

Spijed wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 26, 2021 3:02 pm

From the Guardian:

"Palace were in discussions with the Premier League on Christmas Day about postponing their trip across the capital following a number of new positive cases, but it is understood the league were dissatisfied with the late application."

So if I read this right, CP applied for their trip to Spurs to be cancelled the day before, and the PL though their application was too late, yet Burnley's games with Villa and Watford were pulled about 2 hours before KO, nice to see consistency is alive and well in the PL isn't it.