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Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:53 pm
by Johma
I hope hes working today AND tomorrow at home
He must kno he needs to bring new faces in after today

Id be right on the fone to Pace

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:54 pm
by taio
We have no money

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:54 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
Two or three signings are a must.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:56 pm
by texasbrit
we have squandered all the PL money and the new owners don't have two pennies to rub together

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:56 pm
by warksclaret
Probably Huddersfield's easiest game of the season today. It was the same for Leeds last week and Man Utd the game before

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:59 pm
by Cubanforever
It's difficult to see anyone of quality wanting to sign at the moment...Sean's got a massive task to spark some life into us and build some momentum now it seems

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:00 pm
by Vino blanco
At least Stephens could be like a new signing.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 3:01 pm
by Johma
There must be plenty of back up players biting for 1st team games with a view to potentially keeping a team in a league as a challenge

Hundreds of em

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:31 pm
by alwaysaclaret
John Swift ooc, Jed Wallace ooc, Ben Davies at Liverpool miles away from the starting line up. Jack Cork ooc = John Swift, Aaron lennon ooc payp = Jed Wallace, Ben Davies loan, what's the problem. Drop tarkowski he's clearly not interested, collins in, clear the air talks with the captain, mcneil in the no 10, and cornet in the position he was bought for. Priority in the summer when Premier league status is secured, new striker new left sided cb, sorted. Only problem is I'm not sure dyche has the capacity to think like that anymore.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:03 pm
by warksclaret
He is in a very sticky position and if this run continues will see his worth as a manager damaged badly each defeat. The pundits are already starting to doubt we can stay up. The fans of other clubs will not want him.

Re: Mr Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:14 pm
by IanMcL
He will sort it.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:16 pm
by RVclaret
taio wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:54 pm
We have no money
You Burnley’s accountant now?

Re: Mr Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:17 pm
by warksclaret
IanMcL wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:14 pm
He will sort it.
HOW ??

Re: Mr Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:19 pm
by BurnleyFC
warksclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:17 pm
HOW ??
Because BenWickes said we’ll break our transfer record more than once in this window.

(We won’t, by the way)

Re: Mr Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:35 pm
by Cubanforever
warksclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:17 pm
HOW ??
To be fair I don't know how he's got us up and kept us up with the backing he's had

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:45 pm
by mill hill claret
taio wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:54 pm
We have no money
How do you know ?

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:48 pm
by joey13
mill hill claret wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:45 pm
How do you know ?
You do know what a leveraged buyout is don’t you ?

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:50 pm
by CryerBFC
alwaysaclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:31 pm
John Swift ooc, Jed Wallace ooc, Ben Davies at Liverpool miles away from the starting line up. Jack Cork ooc = John Swift, Aaron lennon ooc payp = Jed Wallace, Ben Davies loan, what's the problem. Drop tarkowski he's clearly not interested, collins in, clear the air talks with the captain, mcneil in the no 10, and cornet in the position he was bought for. Priority in the summer when Premier league status is secured, new striker new left sided cb, sorted. Only problem is I'm not sure dyche has the capacity to think like that anymore.
I agree with the most, apart from playing cornet on the left. He’s the only one who looks like scoring this season, taking him from an upfront role, into a left sided role, where he will more than likely not be allowed the freedom to roam down the wing, is only bad news for us.

Keep him up front and build around him.

Re: Mr Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:53 pm
by Shaggy
Cubanforever wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:35 pm
To be fair I don't know how he's got us up and kept us up with the backing he's had
Because he got us organised, plays a system and was able to motivate and keep his players hungry. the way he operates is the reason he prefers older pros and too carry a smaller squad. Its worked for us in the past but was never going to last and he hasnt evolved in any shape or form.

Problem is now though that small squad has been allowed to get old and the hunger has gone, the same organisation, system and motivation dont work any more.. Dyhce is a busted flush.

Re: Mr Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:58 pm
by Cubanforever
Shaggy wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:53 pm
Because he got us organised, plays a system and was able to motivate and keep his players hungry. the way he operates is the reason he prefers older pros and too carry a smaller squad. Its worked for us in the past but was never going to last and he hasnt evolved in any shape or form.

Problem is now though that small squad has been allowed to get old and the hunger has gone, the same organisation, system and motivation dont work any more.. Dyhce is a busted flush.
Respect your points but my underlying argument is that he's not been backed well enough to be able to evolve....he's HAD to be pragmatic

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:00 pm
by elwaclaret
People need to stop thinking of the takeover, it’s done we need to get on with it. We have no idea what money is available, but no one at the club has suggested we are not trying to bring in players; so money MUST be available or why put the onus on the manager by suggesting we’re trying as AP has said in recent interviews?

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:05 pm
by mill hill claret
joey13 wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:48 pm
You do know what a leveraged buyout is don’t you ?
But who knows if we have money to spend on players or not .....you don't...I don't... only alan pace knows.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:12 pm
by ewanrob
What's unbelievable is our 90 million wage bill for this lot...quite staggering

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:14 pm
by beeholeclaret
We dont know what Pace said to Dyche before he signed his contract. However after Dyche constantly complained about lack of transfer funds from the previous owners Pace must have promised something in the way of future transfers otherwise Dyche would not have signed a new contract. We will have to wait and see.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:18 pm
by warksclaret
ewanrob wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:12 pm
What's unbelievable is our 90 million wage bill for this lot...quite staggering
You would expect some pride, hurt , passion. The body language of some of our players, particularly our captain is very worrying

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:39 pm
by Stayingup
texasbrit wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:56 pm
we have squandered all the PL money and the new owners don't have two pennies to rub together
Squandered? Pr is it in someones Bank account?

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:40 pm
by Cubanforever
ewanrob wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:12 pm
What's unbelievable is our 90 million wage bill for this lot...quite staggering
What's really staggering is that must be one of the lowest in the division

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:41 pm
by Safron
warksclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:18 pm
You would expect some pride, hurt , passion. The body language of some of our players, particularly our captain is very worrying
It's that body language that speaks volumes

Re: Mr Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:47 pm
by Taffy on the wing
Cubanforever wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:58 pm
Respect your points but my underlying argument is that he's not been backed well enough to be able to evolve....he's HAD to be pragmatic
Exactly..........Most on here prefer to moan and complain instead of putting themselves in Dyche's shoes.

Re: Mr Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:58 pm
by joey13
Taffy on the wing wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:47 pm
Exactly..........Most on here prefer to moan and complain instead of putting themselves in Dyche's shoes.
Who’d have thought that on football messageboard :roll:

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:02 pm
by claretgimmer
He may not have had as much backing as he would like/require but continually just bringing in aged workhorses without any creativity is coming home to roost, he needed to be a bit more speculative with young players from lower league clubs and I`m sure they wouldn`t have commanded the wages his selected journeymen have but I believe if he stays and we clear out it will just be more of the same type of football with a low entertainment value.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:02 pm
by Spijed
warksclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:18 pm
You would expect some pride, hurt , passion. The body language of some of our players, particularly our captain is very worrying
I never expected that Ben Mee would be anything other than totally committed. Quite worrying.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:02 pm
by bfcjg
I genuinely think the players are sick and tired of the same old tactics,that said they should at least try.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:04 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
Spijed wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:02 pm
I never expected that Ben Mee would be anything other than totally committed. Quite worrying.
Very worrying. A few weeks ago I was saying no way we could let both Tarkowski and Mee go this window however after their last few performances I’m starting to think differently. Only one who showed any real commitment today was Bardsley rest of them just going through the motions.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:05 pm
by Andreshotboots
claretgimmer wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:02 pm
He may not have had as much backing as he would like/require but continually just bringing in aged workhorses without any creativity is coming home to roost, he needed to be a bit more speculative with young players from lower league clubs and I`m sure they wouldn`t have commanded the wages his selected journeymen have but I believe if he stays and we clear out it will just be more of the same type of football with a low entertainment value.
He came to the wrong club if he wanted big backing. He knew that 10 years ago and nothing has really changed..

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:06 pm
by claretgimmer
Never said big backing, but maybe more backing than he has had, however my point is the way he has invested what backing he has had

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:10 pm
by DCWat
Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:04 pm
Very worrying. A few weeks ago I was saying no way we could let both Tarkowski and Mee go this window however after their last few performances I’m starting to think differently. Only one who showed any real commitment today was Bardsley rest of them just going through the motions.
It’s a sorry state of affairs when we question the professionalism of some of our players. One or two really should be taking a long hard look at themselves.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:12 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
DCWat wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:10 pm
It’s a sorry state of affairs when we question the professionalism of some of our players. One or two really should be taking a long hard look at themselves.
Especially when the commitment and fight have been such a big part of our success under Dyche.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:15 pm
by Andreshotboots
DCWat wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:10 pm
It’s a sorry state of affairs when we question the professionalism of some of our players. One or two really should be taking a long hard look at themselves.
DCWat wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:10 pm
It’s a sorry state of affairs when we question the professionalism of some of our players. One or two really should be taking a long hard look at themselves.
Are they really bothered though? Millionaires already, most of them at the end of their careers on that field today..There was no "eye of the Tiger" on show today..

More like pussycats arseholes.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:54 pm
by Leisure
Andreshotboots wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:15 pm
Are they really bothered though? Millionaires already, most of them at the end of their careers on that field today..There was no "eye of the Tiger" on show today..

More like pussycats arseholes.
Even millionaires want/need to continue to earn or they very soon won't be millionaires!

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:57 pm
by Andreshotboots
Leisure wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:54 pm
Even millionaires want/need to continue to earn or they very soon won't be millionaires!
Well the out of contract players haven't been showing too much desire to either put themselves in the shop window or win another contract from what I've been watching recently.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:58 pm
by Leisure
Andreshotboots wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:57 pm
Well the out of contract players haven't been showing too much desire to either put themselves in the shop window or win another contract from what I've been watching recently.
Maybe they're just trying too hard. ;)

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:01 pm
by Andreshotboots
Leisure wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:58 pm
Maybe they're just trying too hard. ;)
That must be it 😂

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:05 pm
by boatshed bill
Leisure wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:58 pm
Maybe they're just trying too hard. ;)
Yes, perhaps they should take it easy.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:08 pm
by tiger76
ewanrob wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:12 pm
What's unbelievable is our 90 million wage bill for this lot...quite staggering
Indeed! time a few of them took a good long look in the mirror, and started earning their big salaries. Far too many of this squad now stealing a wage from BFC.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:12 pm
by boatshed bill
tiger76 wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:08 pm
Indeed! time a few of them took a good long look in the mirror, and started earning their big salaries. Far too many of this squad now stealing a wage from BFC.
Too many multimillionaires with no reason to improve.

Re: Mr Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:16 pm
by Taffy on the wing
joey13 wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:58 pm
Who’d have thought that on football messageboard :roll:
Childish post....... as usual from you!
Fair weather fan.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:19 pm
by arise_sir_charge
I think Dyche is partly to blame for our lack of transfer activity.

Never bothers with loans, seems to have a very rigid approach to who he will bring in and even when he does it’s rare they get a chance until one of his favourites is injured.

Look at Roberts, Dyche even referenced there being a pecking order and how Bardsley had been a good pro for us when asked about Roberts getting a chance. I mean Jesus wept, Bardsley is 36.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:28 pm
by tiger76
boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:12 pm
Too many multimillionaires with no reason to improve.
But that applies to most if not all PL players doesn't it, yet they all seem to have the inner motivation to continue competing at the top level.

Re: Dyche

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:33 pm
by Darnhill Claret
If every player at every club in the premier league tried the maximum possible in every game played, at the end of the season 3 clubs would still be relegated. Being in the bottom 3 after 17 games is not proof that players are not trying.