What is his reaction going to be. I think that he won’t be happy about it especially as he’s under the weather at the moment. If Alan Pace is making the decisions and he doesn’t agree, he will be gone. Not exciting times.

Dyche was at the club when Wood extended his contract with a release clause. He would be well aware of it. If Newcastle met the release clause Pace and Dyche had no say, if Newcastle made an offer then I see no feasible way that Pace didn't get Dyche's blessing for the sale.

On the remotest of possibilities Pace decided to sell without consultation then just remember that Dyche says they work in a 'No excuse environment'...... shut the **** up and get on with your highly paid job

His next press conference will be very interesting

dermotdermot wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:39 am

What is his reaction going to be. I think that he won’t be happy about it especially as he’s under the weather at the moment. If Alan Pace is making the decisions and he doesn’t agree, he will be gone. Not exciting times.

Let’s hope so.

I think he'll be pragmatic as usual. Every player has a price and Newcastle made a silly offer.
A club like ours just can't refuse those kind of offers.
Not really something the chairman could have done other than putting his release clause higher. Of course Wood and his agent wouldn't agree to that.

I think the club deserves big praise for making sure we had a release clause this big for him as he could have left for less otherwise.

He's an employee of the club

He's also the bloke in charge of a team that has won once all season and sits in 18th place

If he decides to moan about in public, rather than either accepting it and moaning in private to the board, then I think he's bang out of order and I'd expect Pace to do something about that

I would be sure that Pace and Dyche discussed the transfer by the way, and it really is up to Pace and Dyche to replace him, and for Dyche to get the team motivated for a couple of crucial home games

superdimitri wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:39 am

I think he'll be pragmatic as usual. Every player has a price and Newcastle made a silly offer.
A club like ours just can't refuse those kind of offers.
Not really something the chairman could have done other than putting his release clause higher. Of course Wood and his agent wouldn't agree to that.

I think the club deserves big praise for making sure we had a release clause this big for him as he could have left for less otherwise.

I hope Newcastle come in with a similar offer for Tarkowski now that would be icing on the cake, I would also consider offers for Mee. We have to be realistic we are far to weak to buy ourselves out of this mess and relegation this season is inevitable

I can’t imagine Pace has agreed to sell him for two reasons.

1. In the week we have season defining fixtures. We are now heading into them fixtures with an incredibly weaker team.

2. I just can’t see Dyche agreeing to this, he has stated numerous times over the years that keeping his best players is ciritical.

As another poster said tomorrow press conference will be intriguing

Top Claret wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:43 am

I hope Newcastle come in with a similar offer for Tarkowski now that would be icing on the cake, I would also consider offers for Mee. We have to be realistic we are far to weak to buy ourselves out of this mess and relegation this season is inevitable

I don't agree that relegation is inevitable but I do agree that we need to do better generally as a 'selling' club so if Tarkowski won't sign on and we get a good offer we definitely shouldn't turn it down.

What will matter is our own signings. I'm certain this will mean we make one or two signings at least.

Pretty much sure less than 3 points from the next two games will see us in deep mire
Would still give us chance to make some money out of Newcastle for Tarks/Mee after those two games

Phillips would be a decent replacement for either

Nobody needed to agree anything! It’s a contract. The contract allowed him to go for a set figure. The only thing Burnley could do is to try and convince Wood to stay. So to talk about whether Pace or Dyche agreeing to let him go is irrelevant.

TheOriginalLongsider wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:49 am

Nobody needed to agree anything! It’s a contract. The contract allowed him to go for a set figure. The only thing Burnley could do is to try and convince Wood to stay. So to talk about whether Pace or Dyche agreeing to let him go is irrelevant.

No one knows if it’s a release clause.contradicting stories in the press

Looks like West Ham are waiting for Tarkowski on a free. Maybe his agent has given them an indication that Tarkowski prefers a move there rather than Newcastle or Leicester. Based on that then I hope z Newcastle come in now for him and Collins can play out the season for us.

Clearly there must now be some major morale issues at BFC if Wood, Tarks and Mee all want to leave at the same time

Relegation is certainly at the forefront of their decisions, but there seems to be little desire for a fight from them to help out the club in these difficult times

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:45 am

I can’t imagine Pace has agreed to sell him for two reasons.

1. In the week we have season defining fixtures. We are now heading into them fixtures with an incredibly weaker team.

2. I just can’t see Dyche agreeing to this, he has stated numerous times over the years that keeping his best players is ciritical.

As another poster said tomorrow press conference will be intriguing

Absolute rubbish. You talk like the head of a multimillion pound operation and one of his senior employees don’t communicate. Like where does that happen? This will have been gone over between them, discussed, plan put in place, agents of replacements (previously determined) put on alert.

In my mind this has been on the cards since the mouth off at Wolves, because although Dyche protected him in the media, in reality, both parties were happy to get rid.

Also, just for you Newcy, we could even play Brownhill up front

Said after several abject performances from.the TEAM as well as Wood, I think the major wake up call was Leeds away.
After that, and looking at our next 4 fixtures at the time, it looks as though the writing is on the wall.

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if we are semi preparing for a season in the championship.
So 25m for a none goalscoring would soon be 31 year old championship forward represented an offer too hood to turn down, especially when we can hopefully get 2 players in for thst for the quite obvious and needed rebuild.

If you ask me, Tarky out for 10m ish would be next, and I'd be getting

Think 30m for Tarky and Wood would be good business, and I'd be bringing in

Ben Davies Liverpool, ex PNE captain, 26, left sided CB. They got for 2.5m last Jan, so 7m should do it.

Dan Neil, Sunderland , 20 CM 3m

Start setting us up now to bounce straight back up.
We don't want to be flapping about on August 30th.

Collins can start with Davies learning the ropes ready for next season when he's either Mee's replacement or a much needed good 3rd choice who knows the championship.

Neil can be given 6 months to get settled, learn the framework in time for next season.

Starting the rebuild now is the best thing for Burnley, we can demand decent cash for our players rather than in the summer, and also we still have the attractiveness of being a Premier league club and team, even if its only in name for 5 more months.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:45 am

I can’t imagine Pace has agreed to sell him

Dyche might be happy in a perverse way, if or when which is more on the cards now wecare relegated he can just say to prospective employers well therecwas nothing I could do,the chairman sold my top striker.

Perhaps he is in full agreement.

As a number of people keep pointing out, selling Wood, whether we had a choice or not, isn’t necessarily an issue, it’s how we replace him that matters, so this next few days/weeks is going g to be very interesting.

On this front, the summer window saw 3 players of what I believe to be the right profile arrive, let’s hope we see more of the same.

Let’s put it this way I’m more confident that the money from Wood sale will be spent on a replacement than if a certain ex chairman was still in place.

We will sign a replacement won’t we?

CharlieinNewMexico wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:59 am

Absolute rubbish. You talk like the head of a multimillion pound operation and one of his senior employees don’t communicate. Like where does that happen? This will have been gone over between them, discussed, plan put in place, agents of replacements (previously determined) put on alert.

In my mind this has been on the cards since the mouth off at Wolves, because although Dyche protected him in the media, in reality, both parties were happy to get rid.

Also, just for you Newcy, we could even play Brownhill up front

That’s why I am saying I don’t think pace will have agreed to it and that is must be a release clause. There’s just no way Dyche agrees to this.

I know the reports are so varied at the moment but the genuine theme seems to suggest Burnley are fuming that this has happened, which would indicate it’s a release clause.

No way Pace would sell Wood (or anybody) without Dyche's Ok. Pace gave Dyche a 4 year deal because he sees him as probably the most important factor in our success and in sustaining it. He's not going to then totally p*** him off at the first opportunity.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:21 am

That’s why I am saying I don’t think pace will have agreed to it and that is must be a release clause. There’s just no way Dyche agrees to this.

I know the reports are so varied at the moment but the genuine theme seems to suggest Burnley are fuming that this has happened, which would indicate it’s a release clause.

How can Burnley be fuming at a players release clause being triggered? I mean, it would have been full knowledge to everyone that it could happen, that’s kinda the point of release clauses. As it stands, we’ve just received 25m for a 30 year old who was out of contract next summer. Incredible business.

I won't lose sleep over this. I see it positively.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:28 am

How can Burnley be fuming at a players release clause being triggered? I mean, it would have been full knowledge to everyone that it could happen, that’s kinda the point of release clauses. As it stands, we’ve just received 25m for a 30 year old who was out of contract next summer. Incredible business.

I’m assuming it’s a fact he’s gone to a relegation rival half way through the season. But Im sure as time progresses more info will come out.

Somewhere around 20-25m is good business but only if it’s reinvested. If we don’t sign anyone this window it’s shocking business. Given we already needed 2 first team starters, signing another one now makes this a big task.

But I guess that’s what they get paid the big bucks for.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:30 am

I’m assuming it’s a fact he’s gone to a relegation rival half way through the season. But Im sure as time progresses more info will come out.

Somewhere around 20-25m is good business but only if it’s reinvested. If we don’t sign anyone this window it’s shocking business. Given we already needed 2 first team starters, signing another one now makes this a big task.

But I guess that’s what they get paid the big bucks for.

Yeah, that’s the thing that stings a bit, but with a release clause it runs the risk.

You are right, it needs to be reinvested and I have faith in Pace to deliver. It may allow us to 1. reduce the average age 2. bring in 3-4 first teamers if we are savvy.

Anyone who think Dyche wouldn’t have been aware of Wood’s release clause and the distinct possibility it might be triggered at an inconvenient time is frankly delusional.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:35 am

Yeah, that’s the thing that stings a bit, but with a release clause it runs the risk.

You are right, it needs to be reinvested and I have faith in Pace to deliver. It may allow us to 1. reduce the average age 2. bring in 3-4 first teamers if we are savvy.

If we do that then it’s worth while.

My main concern is that we need at least one big signing in for Watford. That’s such a big game.

People talking about bad timing but what would be bad timing is playing a player against Watford who is determined to leave and if he scores would damage the team he wants to go to.

Once Wood’s (and Trios) agent tapped up Newcastle we had to get him out of the building.

I think there needs to be some clarity because at the moment reports are saying that Woods release clause has been met.

Am I right I’m thinking that if that’s the case, if personal terms have been met (of course they have), then the player HAS to be sold?

If that is the case it doesn’t matter in the slightest what Pace Dyche or anyone thinks. And it means we have 2.5 weeks to find replacement(s) for Dyches favourite targetman when nothing like this was planned for.

According to one paper, which gets things wrong from time to time though, Dyche is livid - at Newcastle!!! Oh to send them down.

Someone remind me…. There was a recent offer where the players release clause was met and the club just said nope!

I think we were happy to say hell yes off you pop.

CharlieinNewMexico wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:17 am

Someone remind me…. There was a recent offer where the players release clause was met and the club just said nope!

I think we were happy to say hell yes off you pop.

I think this discussion is based on that fact there are currently contradicting reports about the release clause.

Has any club ever come in for Ben Mee? Supposedly on silly wages I’d be amazed if he can get a better offer elsewhere. He might not have had his best season but none of them have.
Up or down he has to stay as our leader on the field.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:19 am

I think this discussion is based on that fact there are currently contradicting reports about the release clause.

The 20 in the summer but now if you throw in an extra 5 seems quite realistic?

CharlieinNewMexico wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:30 am

The 20 in the summer but now if you throw in an extra 5 seems quite realistic?

Don’t get me wrong I think it’s very likely it’s a release clause. It’s just strange the varying reports.

I’ve seen Fabrizio say the fee is 20m. Another say 25. Another one say there was no release clause.

A lot of speculation and misinformation being bandied about by the media over the departure and sale of Wood.

One of the presenters questioning on the Sky Transfer Show last night as to how this might impact on Maxwell Cornet since Wood has been the perfect foil for Cornet and that they had struck up a good partnership.

If the presenter had done his homework he would have discovered just 3 goals for Wood and ZERO Assists this season.

Just wait for the sawdust to settle.

If Dyche is livid at Newcastle maybe that will motivate him to squeeze every pound out of Pace in order to fund either a last ditch fight to stay up or a
really strong squad to come back up. He and the club will have identified their targets.

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:12 am

As a number of people keep pointing out, selling Wood, whether we had a choice or not, isn’t necessarily an issue, it’s how we replace him that matters, so this next few days/weeks is going g to be very interesting...

How about we look to retain our EPL place by spending £20M+ along with a big salary for three years on a slightly above average but out of form 30 year old striker who's going to be unavailable to play during March? Some folks think that's a good idea.

Agree the only people who are surprised are the fans .
Dyche last 3 signings are good let’s hope he’s allowed to fill in the gaps or pull another rabbit out of the hat .
If not Newcastle have took us out of the equation .

Top Claret wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:43 am

I hope Newcastle come in with a similar offer for Tarkowski now that would be icing on the cake, I would also consider offers for Mee. We have to be realistic we are far to weak to buy ourselves out of this mess and relegation this season is inevitable

This suggestion that it's inevitable we're going down seems somewhat premature. We're two points off safety with a game in hand, the team above us on a terrible run of form and the team below on a bad run of form too.

We may go down but the suggestion that it's inevitable is pretty premature.

If Wood wanted out then best to move him on ASAP, a bonus that Newcastle are prepared to splash out £20-25m for a guy who on this season's form is past his sell by date.

Wood's gone forget him, and let's focus on who we now bring in.

Young players who we can develop, and then make a good profit on in the coming years would be my preference, and based on the captures of Collins, Cornet & Roberts in the summer this does appear to be the path the club is now rightly exploring.

Hopefully Wood is just the first of our over 30's to exit, and we gradually reduce our average age, just maybe in a couple of seasons we'll have the nickname young guns and not dad's army as we currently have.

Top Claret wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:43 am

I hope Newcastle come in with a similar offer for Tarkowski now that would be icing on the cake, I would also consider offers for Mee. We have to be realistic we are far to weak to buy ourselves out of this mess and relegation this season is inevitable

Its looking very much like 3 from the bottom 4 could well be going down, and Newcastle are trying to buy their way out of it, not to take the money i think would be madness its a lot of money for a 30 year old, providing Alan Pace gives Sean Dyche all the money plus any other money we take in from transfers then we can start to rebuild straight away. If we stay up that's a bonus but we do need to get more pace and youth into the side, if we go down we can then look at the out of contract players who we feel can still do a job in the championship, we also have one or two others who could bring in good funds, Pope, Taylor, McNeil and even Cornet, Dyche then has to find the best young talent here in the championship and also aboard, he knows how strong we have to be to go back up as he's had 2 promotions, its a big gamble but i think it could well be the right move, but only time will time.

superdimitri wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:29 am

I won't lose sleep over this. I see it positively.

Exactly! gets Wood off the books, and at his age his only going downhill, as this season has aptly shown, and brings in fees and frees up wages to invest in young talent, which I thought people were crying out for.

Folks can't have it both ways, they moan that our squad is ageing (which it is) and then when we flog Wood they still moan, some people are never happy on here.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:45 am

I can’t imagine Pace has agreed to sell him for two reasons.

1. In the week we have season defining fixtures. We are now heading into them fixtures with an incredibly weaker team.

2. I just can’t see Dyche agreeing to this, he has stated numerous times over the years that keeping his best players is ciritical.

As another poster said tomorrow press conference will be intriguing

1. There is no such thing as a season defining fixture unless it’s the one that actually gets you relegated or wins you a trophy. A mid season fixture cannot be ‘season defining’.
2. Why are so many people assuming that Dyche was against this sale or that it was somehow done behind his back? It seems odd that many on here seem to know Sean Dyche better than his wife.