It's time for Dyche to drop this 442 that's not working, with the limited player's we have up front I personally think it's time to go 4231if the game goes ahead

My team with the player's we have

..................Pope
Lowton Collins Mee Taylor
......Roberts ....Tarkowski
Lennon....McNeil....Gudmundsson
..............Rodriguez

Or

..................Pope
Lowton Collins Mee Taylor
......Roberts ....Pieters
Lennon....McNeil....Gudmundsson
..............Rodriguez

Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
Tucker, Helm, Westwood, McNeil
Lennon
Jay Rod

Why not try something new

Play for a point

Pope
Roberts Collins Tarkowski Long Mee Peters Taylor
Westwood Cork Brownhill

Impossible to predict considering we don't know who will be available.

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 6:15 am

It's time for Dyche to drop this 442 that's not working, with the limited player's we have up front I personally think it's time to go 4231if the game goes ahead

My team with the player's we have

..................Pope
Lowton Collins Mee Taylor
......Roberts ....Tarkowski
Lennon....McNeil....Gudmundsson
..............Rodriguez

Or

..................Pope
Lowton Collins Mee Taylor
......Roberts ....Pieters
Lennon....McNeil....Gudmundsson
..............Rodriguez

Square pegs in round holes won’t work. Plus has roberts ever played in cm? Or is this the same as when everyone obsessed about Taylor being a cb because he played there in a friendly once?

I thought Taylor was having a scan? Doubt he’ll be available for this game if that’s the case..

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:56 am

Square pegs in round holes won’t work. Plus has roberts ever played in cm? Or is this the same as when everyone obsessed about Taylor being a cb because he played there in a friendly once?

If you think Roberts in that formation is cm then that goes to show you know nothing about football

On the subject of Square pegs in round holes, have you ever noticed how Dyche plays our wingers

Game will probably be off.

If not we'll be playing a 4 4 0 formation. We've barely any players.

Andreshotboots wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:28 am

I thought Taylor was having a scan? Doubt he’ll be available for this game if that’s the case..

And the scan shows nothing does he still not play ??? No results back yet

Andreshotboots wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:28 am

I thought Taylor was having a scan? Doubt he’ll be available for this game if that’s the case..

I have a sneaking suspicion that the scan will come back clear!

Roberts holding mid? Have I honestly read that correctly?

I agree with 4-2-3-1. Assuming all fit, I’d go for:

Pope
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
Brownhill Westwood
JBG Lennon McNeil
JRod

Try and keep it tight. Work on fitness. Robert’s on last 20 for some crosses/throws to snatch it.

nyclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:55 am

Roberts holding mid? Have I honestly read that correctly?

I know let's stick to the tried and tested 442 with Tarkowski who doesn't look interested and a midfield that can't protect the defence and wingers on the wrong sides because that's worked in the last 21 game's.......oh hang on, sir Dyche has kept us up for a few season's let him still dine out on that reputation because it clearly works still

Assuming everyone fit then definitely time for a new approach. Always like the Aussies cricket team approach, pick your best 11 players.
Now of course that doesn’t necessarily translate well to soccer but I’d certainly be looking to get Collins and Roberts playing. So something a little more dynamic with the opportunity for a more fluid formation with the ability to counter

Pope


Lawton. Collins. Mee. Taylor

Tarkowski

Roberts. Westwood
Brownhill

McNeil
Rodriguez

Feel we need to get Brownhill into scoring situations, his record at City was pretty good.
It might be argued it’s an over defensive system 6 defenders but I think it might offer us some fluidity giving the full backs more chance to overlap and more importantly give us a real presence at set pieces. Obviously the danger is players not adapting and taking each other’s space but for me other than Vydra that’s our best 11. Would like to see Helm and Mancini on the bench.

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:57 am

I agree with 4-2-3-1. Assuming all fit, I’d go for:

Pope
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
Brownhill Westwood
JBG Lennon McNeil
JRod

Try and keep it tight. Work on fitness. Robert’s on last 20 for some crosses/throws to snatch it.

Swap Tarkowski for Collins and McNeil for one of the wingers and it's worth trying instead of 442 that's clearly not

Sorry Lowton didn’t check, could do with Lawton now though.

Pope
Tarks Mee
Westwood Brownhill Cork
JBG Lennon Jay McNeil Pieters

nyclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:55 am

Roberts holding mid? Have I honestly read that correctly?

Roberts in the past with other clubs has played

Right back
Central Defensive midfield (the role I picked)
Right wing
Left back

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:01 am

I know let's stick to the tried and tested 442 with Tarkowski who doesn't look interested and a midfield that can't protect the defence and wingers on the wrong sides because that's worked in the last 21 game's.......oh hang on, sir Dyche has kept us up for a few season's let him still dine out on that reputation because it clearly works still

I think you’re missing my point. Does Roberts even playing holding mid? Why would you try to squeeze him in? Surely you’d go for someone who actually plays in that position?

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:12 am

Roberts in the past with other clubs has played

Right back
Central Defensive midfield (the role I picked)
Right wing
Left back

How many games has he played in CDM?

nyclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:13 am

I think you’re missing my point. Does Roberts even playing holding mid? Why would you try to squeeze him in? Surely you’d go for someone who actually plays in that position?

I'd squeeze him in to cover Lowton if Lowton down the wing, I'd squeeze him him for the massive long throws he can put into the box and I'd squeeze him in to link up with Lennon and we've not seen what he can do, it can be no worse that what is happening on the pitch at the moment

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:19 am

I'd squeeze him in to cover Lowton if Lowton down the wing, I'd squeeze him him for the massive long throws he can put into the box and I'd squeeze him in to link up with Lennon and we've not seen what he can do, it can be no worse that what is happening on the pitch at the moment

Why not just stick him up front then?

nyclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:15 am

How many games has he played in CDM?

How many games did Cornet play up front before he come to Burnley, Cornet was a left back when we signed him

nyclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:21 am

Why not just stick him up front then?

We might have to if our only fit striker gets injured

Roberts and Pieters as holding midfielders might be the worst suggestion i’ve ever seen on this message board.

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:12 am

Roberts in the past with other clubs has played

Right back
Central Defensive midfield (the role I picked)
Right wing
Left back

Kevin Long played up front for us but I doubt any other club would give him that gig

Dyche will play if fit 442
Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
JBG Brownhill Westwood McNeil
Lennon Jay Rod

With the available players likely fit I’d play 442

Pope

Lowton. Tarks…… Mee… .Pieters

Roberts Collins Brownhill Taylor

Jay Rod McNeil

I’d like to play 433
Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Pieters
Roberts Collins Taylor
Vydra Jay Rod Cornet

Pope
Lowton, Tarks, Mee, Taylor
Cork
Westwood, McNeil
JBG, Lennon
JayRod
4-3-3

CFS wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:38 pm

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That’s an interesting choice playing fofana up front when he’s a CM

Ben and Charlie = brothers from another mother ?

3 goalies and 8 others

Given that we are almost certainly going into that game with one striker I’d like to see something like this depending on who’s available obviously : -

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:39 pm

That’s an interesting choice playing fofana up front when he’s a CM

Might aswell play cornet in his favoured LB position too.

Given the form I’d probably change JBG for Lennon too, pretty sure I read somewhere that he’s injured too , might be wrong though

Whoever is picked will give everything for Burnley FC!

Pope
Roberts Tarky Mee Taylor
Brownhill Stephens Westwood McNeil
Lennon Jay

Harsh on Lowton but I feel we need a refresh. Stephens has looked a better option than Cork and JBG has been awful.

Lennon and Jay Rod. Are we supposed to be trying to score some goals?

LS7 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:07 pm

Lennon and Jay Rod. Are we supposed to be trying to score some goals?

They’re our last 2 scorers aren’t they? Who else do you suggest?

Pearcey wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:11 pm

They’re our last 2 scorers aren’t they? Who else do you suggest?

Yeah. How has it come to this. Dad's Army.

I was thinking an inverted Christmas tree but then I thought Christmas is gone, maybe a flat pancake at the back with hot x buns in front then I realised why I am not in charge of formations so 4 4 2 it is

We need to know who is available before picking a formation.
1-10 might not be a bad idea.

Im guessing it'll be 4-4-2

Would prefer 4-5-1 though we are probably going to get pasted otherwise

Pope
Bardsley Long Mee Pieters
JGB Cork Stephens Lennon
J Rod Carroll

Dyches ( dad's) army.

Assuming everyone accept Barnes and Vyds can start.

Pope
Collins Tarks Mee
Lowton Westwood Brownhill Taylor
Lennon Jay Dwight

Got to get some sort of control in cm and probably get our goals via set piece headers.

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:47 am

If you think Roberts in that formation is cm then that goes to show you know nothing about football

On the subject of Square pegs in round holes, have you ever noticed how Dyche plays our wingers

I’m not the one advocating for a right back to play in cm/cdm (whichever way you want to interpret it) and a centre back in cm/cdm. You clearly didn’t see how tarks did in that position when Keane was here in his cameos in that role, or going further back how we put square pegs in round holes in the 2010 season which didn’t work....again.

On the subject of how Dyche plays our wingers, have we had any choice? He usually plays McNeil on the left - his position and JBG on the right, again his position. Occasionally he has swapped McNeil to the right which didn’t work because again, it’s a square peg in a round hole.

Yet I know nothing about football

According to dyche's press conference, transfers - : Nothing to report, injuries/covid - : couple back from each, 16 training, Taylor touch and go.

Taylor out for the season then ???

Formation for Arsenal...Employ Mick & Paddy at the back with a ton of sand, 10 bags of cement and oh around 200 block to brick up the goal

Then repeat for the second half.

Nobody who has ever been "touch and go" in Dyche's terms has actually played! So no Taylor.
Without knowing who is available and who isn't and it all being so fluid right now, this thread is completely impossible. I would however like to see Roberts given a go if he's fit and if Jay is our only fit striker then get Mellon or McGlynn on the bench.

Well Arsenal are missing two midfielders so we might see a 4-5-1 or we could really fox them and play, like City, with no striker in a flexible 4-6