Talk sport this morning

CHEWBACCA · Post by **CHEWBACCA** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:16 am

Are going to be discussing BFC ALK this morning .

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:20 am

Again, it's becoming regular thing lately

Boss Hogg · Post by **Boss Hogg** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:38 am

On now.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:52 am

What I like about Simon Jordan is that he is very knowledgeable on running a football club (first hand), and cuts through all the crap. He has a series of questions for the owners and apparently Alan Pace refused to come on air to clarify matters. Sounds like the problems in the club are every much as bad as on the field

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:53 am

If it walks, talks & looks like a Duck
It's probably a Duck

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:53 am

I dont listen to Talk Sport, are they discussing how Mr Pace is cornering the US and world markets with his marketing strategy to send Burnley's revenue streams through the roof? If so I hope they question why its taking so long as from reading this board last year it sounded like it would be a piece of p*ss

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:01 am

Silence is deafening, has Pace even addressed anything about Wood leaving?

I'm not sure why fans like Sidney were so happy with the way this takeover was structured, incredibly detrimental to our finances, sucking finance out of the club to finance ALK debts, was an incredible risk.

Using the clubs TV money income and finance from selling players (who were here before ALK arrived) is a disgusting filthy way to takeover a club.

Simon Jordan just ripped them apart, ALK refused to show up and be interviewed.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:03 am

Those who were arguing for the takeover structure were arguing for the sake of arguing or incredibly delusional how we were gonna commercially take over the world and sell millions of shirts in Uganda and become billionaires off Twitter likes and followers.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:03 am

Who in their right mind would submit to be interviewed by Talksport

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:05 am

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:03 am
Who in their right mind would submit to be interviewed by Talksport

Anyone with nothing to hide, or anyone with good news. Thats who

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:05 am

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:52 am
What I like about Simon Jordan is that he is very knowledgeable on running a football club (first hand), and cuts through all the crap. He has a series of questions for the owners and apparently Alan Pace refused to come on air to clarify matters. Sounds like the problems in the club are every much as bad as on the field

It's extremely rare for club owners to make an appearance on talksport, so this isn't a shock that Pace, or anyone else from the club, has declined to appear.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:06 am

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:03 am
Who in their right mind would submit to be interviewed by Talksport

People who don’t like answering tricky questions & have got things to hide I think.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:06 am

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:03 am
Who in their right mind would submit to be interviewed by Talksport

Just gives the whole subject more air time.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:07 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:05 am
It's extremely rare for club owners to make an appearance on talksport, so this isn't a shock that Pace, or anyone else from the club, has declined to appear.

Pretty sure Talksport had the West Ham owner on last week and the Brighton one discussing how well there season has gone. If it wasn’t the owner then it was a rep

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:09 am

Agreeing to giving talksport airtime is fairly high up on the list of pointless things

Agreeing to giving Jim White the time of day is right at the top

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:10 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:07 am
Pretty sure Talksport had the West Ham owner on last week and the Brighton one discussing how well there season has gone. If it wasn’t the owner then it was a rep

Big difference between “come and tell us how well you’re doing”

And

“Come and let us try to rip into you loads and argue with you”

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:11 am

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:06 am
People who don’t like answering tricky questions & have got things to hide I think.

What happened to taking people at face value?

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:13 am

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:11 am
What happened to taking people at face value?

Given his weird stance that he isn't sure that Boris tells lies because he hasn't lied directly to him can only presume ALK bought jakubs business and then he didn't get paid but lost his business.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:14 am

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:05 am
Anyone with nothing to hide, or anyone with good news. Thats who

Yes I’m sure Talksport is precisely where Pace thinks he should be sharing any good news.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:25 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:07 am
Pretty sure Talksport had the West Ham owner on last week and the Brighton one discussing how well there season has gone. If it wasn’t the owner then it was a rep

Were they asked for a detailed business plan, including why they continue to load their clubs with unsustainable debts in the case of Brighton (£300 million at last count)?

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:26 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:09 am
Agreeing to giving talksport airtime is fairly high up on the list of pointless things

Agreeing to giving Jim White the time of day is right at the top

Sean Dyche has been on several times

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:27 am

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:26 am
Sean Dyche has been on several times

That doesn't change my opinion of either the station or person

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:28 am

You’ve more chance getting lord lucan on the show than pace.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:28 am

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:14 am
Yes I’m sure Talksport is precisely where Pace thinks he should be sharing any good news.

What good news ? Do tell

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:29 am

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:03 am
Who in their right mind would submit to be interviewed by Talksport

While it’s a fair point , as by far and away the biggest radio sports broadcaster and is owned by News Corp ( ALK’s ultimate paymasters ) they could have at least left a decent statement perhaps ?

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:32 am

Who in their right mind listens to TalkShite and expects to gain any useful insights from it?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:45 am

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:03 am
Who in their right mind would submit to be interviewed by Talksport

I’ve been on several times including this occasion when I demanded to go on rather than be invited.

viewtopic.php?style=2&f=2&t=38543

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:47 am

I really enjoy Jordan and White on Talksport, I'll often catch on Youtube at night. Some of the other presenters are clowns though

Stockbrokerbelt · Post by **Stockbrokerbelt** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:47 am

So much rubbish spouted on here & is getting worse, the issue with Pace not talking about the deal is 99% likely to be part of the deal, lenders & buyers insert these demands into agreements for future business dealings, i can speak from experience & have been part of a team on 2 large business deals. As for Talksport spouting hot air to fill airtime & the legend in his own brew time Jordan i refer you again to Kieran McGuire & his view on the deal, he has commented more than once that the deal is one of the better ones in Football & how savvy ALK are in dealing with finance.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:47 am

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:32 am
Who in their right mind listens to TalkShite and expects to gain any useful insights from it?

Just shows how much you don't listen to it.

Stockbrokerbelt · Post by **Stockbrokerbelt** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:49 am

So much rubbish spouted on here & is getting worse, the issue with Pace not talking about the deal is 99% likely to be part of the deal, lenders & buyers insert these demands into agreements for future business dealings, i can speak from experience & have been part of a team on 2 large business deals. As for Talksport spouting hot air to fill airtime & the legend in his own brew time Jordan i refer you again to Kieran McGuire & his view on the deal, he has commented more than once that the deal is one of the better ones in Football & how savvy ALK are in dealing with finance.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:49 am

Stockbrokerbelt wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:47 am
So much rubbish spouted on here & is getting worse, the issue with Pace not talking about the deal is 99% likely to be part of the deal, lenders & buyers insert these demands into agreements for future business dealings, i can speak from experience & have been part of a team on 2 large business deals. As for Talksport spouting hot air to fill airtime & the legend in his own brew time Jordan i refer you again to Kieran McGuire & his view on the deal, he has commented more than once that the deal is one of the better ones in Football & how savvy ALK are in dealing with finance.

Jordan probably wishes he is as clued up as he thinks he is, that way he wouldn't have blown all on money at Palace in a time when football was much more in control of finance

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:52 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:49 am
Jordan probably wishes he is as clued up as he thinks he is, that way he wouldn't have blown all on money at Palace in a time when football was much more in control of finance

That’s even more reason to listen to him though he’s made the mistake others haven’t made or are in the process of making. Jordan is telling us how it is with ALK & the takeover but some of the fans want to pretend different.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:53 am

Stockbrokerbelt wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:47 am
So much rubbish spouted on here & is getting worse, the issue with Pace not talking about the deal is 99% likely to be part of the deal, lenders & buyers insert these demands into agreements for future business dealings, i can speak from experience & have been part of a team on 2 large business deals. As for Talksport spouting hot air to fill airtime & the legend in his own brew time Jordan i refer you again to Kieran McGuire & his view on the deal, he has commented more than once that the deal is one of the better ones in Football & how savvy ALK are in dealing with finance.

Sorry I think Simon Jordan knows more about owning a football club than you. I highly doubt Kieran Mcguire would claim a leveraged takeover with the amount of risk associated with it was one of the better deals in football.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:02 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:45 am
I’ve been on several times including this occasion when I demanded to go on rather than be invited.

viewtopic.php?style=2&f=2&t=38543

Yes but you were outraged by the rubbish they were coming out with!

No business owner is going to discuss their business in any depth with these clowns. I’m amazed anyone would take them seriously.
Actually I’m amazed anyone listens

mill hill claret · Post by **mill hill claret** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:13 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:02 pm
Yes but you were outraged by the rubbish they were coming out with!

No business owner is going to discuss their business in any depth with these clowns. I’m amazed anyone would take them seriously.
Actually I’m amazed anyone listens

I'd rather walk to town with a nail in my shoe than listen to talk sport

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:15 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:02 pm
Yes but you were outraged by the rubbish they were coming out with!

No business owner is going to discuss their business in any depth with these clowns. I’m amazed anyone would take them seriously.
Actually I’m amazed anyone listens

Do you listen ?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:15 pm

I take it that all this has come from the latest Daily Mail piece

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:19 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:15 pm
I take it that all this has come from the latest Daily Mail piece

You would imagine so , hardly makes good reading .

Andreshotboots · Post by **Andreshotboots** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:29 pm

Worrying times and nothing that I read, or hear helps reduce these worries in the slightest..

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:30 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:15 pm
I take it that all this has come from the latest Daily Mail piece

Probably CT. One of those stories that might gather momentum now, and with less than 12 days to the end of the window not great timing

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:31 pm

Let’s just see what happens in the window before getting the pitchforks out

rob63 · Post by **rob63** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:40 pm

Two things come to mind;

1) I hope Pace has better things to occupy himself with in a critical transfer window for the club than getting a panning by appearing on Talksport

2) This subject isn't going to go away, so if Talksport waited till next month, they might also be able to give the owners a grilling about where the money is going -if we don't spend the Wood windfall on new players

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:41 pm

I’d accept no lectures on running a football club from Simon Jordan if I were Alan Pace.

Jordan’s been the Chairman of one football club and he took that club to the brink of extinction.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:42 pm

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:41 pm
I’d accept no lectures on running a football club from Simon Jordan if I were Alan Pace.

Jordan’s been the Chairman of one football club and he took that club to the brink of extinction.

Exactly this. The guy drove his club to the brink of administration. Muppet.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:42 pm

AlargeClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:31 pm
Let’s just see what happens in the window before getting the pitchforks out

That's not how it works on here, pitchforks first, waiting to see what happens a distant second

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:42 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:42 pm
Exactly this. The guy drove his club to the brink of administration. Muppet.

Brink? He took them into administration.

JR1882 · Post by **JR1882** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:43 pm

It’s a failure by everyone really.

Mike Garlic didn’t care what he sold us into, as long as he got to take all the clubs money with him, he will have known the many risks attached, but he chose to underinvest so he could take the money as part of a leveraged deal, thus leaving us in this position.

FA agree for someone with no money to purchase and operate a Premier League Club. Bizarre.

Can’t really blame Pace, if you’re buying something you get it for the least amount of money that you can, in any walk of life, which is all he has done, but now he has to deliver a sustainable business model which seems increasingly unlikely given our likely league next season, and the fact many fans are becoming more disengaged by the week, in a season where interest and attendances are well down on previous years.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:50 pm

I find it incredible that Burnley fans would want Pace to appear on talk sport with less than two weeks of the transfer window open.

There are questions other than finance; a badgering about who you after? How much is there to spend etc etc.
I am hoping 1- Pace is far too busy trying to get signings in. 2- Pace has more sense than to voluntarily put himself into a position where he may be manoeuvred into disclosing information that would be useful to our rivals.

This is just another opportunity to destabilise the work being done, it serves absolutely no interest for Burnley fans for Pace to be discussing our business to a national broadcaster. I think he has once again showed that he did not come down in the last shower as a businessman. “We’ll let you know when we are ready”, is a far better system. Just hope we hear a little something from him today and Pace will have played it dead right.

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:52 pm

If Simon Jordan knows so much about running a football club why doesn’t he run one, instead of pontificating whilst on the fourth best slot of a commercial radio station?