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Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by KRBFC » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:58 am

Deserves a topic of it's own so it isn't buried in the same comments as the DM article from Yesterday. Nixon is typically spot on, really worrying.



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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by Milltown1882 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:02 am

I’m convinced if we go down we’ll go down again next season.

They said from day one they were going to be looking for additional investors to come in to the club but the noises coming out lately are not good at all.

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by Jamesy » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:03 am

KRBFC wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:58 am
Deserves a topic of it's own so it isn't buried in the same comments as the DM article from Yesterday. Nixon is typically spot on, really worrying.



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It is indeed worrying. However, the usual suspects will be along very soon to rubbish this article and doubt the credibility of the source, and the gutter newspaper which it is published in and the Daily Mail and Talksport and Simon Jordan et.al.
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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:03 am

Only really worrying if you believe every word you read.
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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by Bigvince » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:03 am

Oh Dear!

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by claret2018 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:03 am

I mean our players are always for sale at the right price. So is every other player at every other club.
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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by Jamesy » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:05 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:03 am
Only really worrying if you believe every word you read.
Let’s just believe none of it then and all will be ok?

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:06 am

Clearly the uncertainty of the situation is worrying, but there’s nothing really of any substance there. Seems like Nixon not a piggybacking on yesterdays DM piece whilst adding absolutely nothing, other than using the word ‘Prem’ to refer to the Premier League. Maybe he was over his word count.

I should hope all of our players are for sale at the right price - pretty much every player in world football is.

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by jedi_master » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:06 am

All players for sale, trying to flog the club a year after 'buying' it (good luck with that with £102m of debt on it now, a pending relegation and a squad either out of contract or over 30 - or both) and quite clearly disgruntled current or ex-employees contacting the media to voice their concerns.

This is why I really fear for us splashing any money this window - where is the money coming from if we do? Being absolutely realistic here, would it not be the right thing to do to use the Wood money on some of this debt and to try and only bring in loan players? People can accuse me of 'accepting relegation' but bringing in players for £10m+ etc is just going to exacerbate what awaits us if we go down (and lets be fair here, it's probably edging to around a 70/30 chance that we're dropping).

A right royal pickle.

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:06 am

Maybe as a fan base we should stop ignoring what numerous journalists are reporting about our club and start listening.

Very very concerning times ahead

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by RVclaret » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:08 am

claret2018 wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:03 am
I mean our players are always for sale at the right price. So is every other player at every other club.
This is a fair point. It’s clever sensationalism from Nixon there and will certainly grab peoples attention.

I find it hard to believe ALK could have got the financing side so wrong just a year into the project. I mean, it’s basic finance that a first year analyst could do.

Maybe their model relied on immediate investors but then again how could they pass the PL ownership assessment without showing they can fund the next few years cash flows, let alone year 1!
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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by Tall Paul » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:11 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:06 am
Maybe as a fan base we should stop ignoring what numerous journalists are reporting about our club and start listening.
And then what? Not much we can do about it even if it's true.

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:12 am

jedi_master wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:06 am
All players for sale, trying to flog the club a year after 'buying' it (good luck with that with £102m of debt on it now, a pending relegation and a squad either out of contract or over 30 - or both) and quite clearly disgruntled current or ex-employees contacting the media to voice their concerns.

This is why I really fear for us splashing any money this window - where is the money coming from if we do? Being absolutely realistic here, would it not be the right thing to do to use the Wood money on some of this debt and to try and only bring in loan players? People can accuse me of 'accepting relegation' but bringing in players for £10m+ etc is just going to exacerbate what awaits us if we go down (and lets be fair here, it's probably edging to around a 70/30 chance that we're dropping).

A right royal pickle.
Easy to say now but they shouldn’t have got involved in the first place making a right pigs ear out of it.

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by dandeclaret » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:14 am

A painful lesson for the sizable, vocal group who were ungrateful for what they had when the club was well run.
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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:14 am

I always recommend that people should never look into sun but whilst I hope that this is not true the general theme does not seem to be going away does it. Hard to know where we go without another investor to come in and save the day.
So much for exciting times then.

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by Swizzlestick » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:14 am

dandeclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:14 am
A painful lesson for the sizable, vocal group who were ungrateful for what they had when the club was well run.
Doesn’t this include Dyche?
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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by Shaggy » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:15 am

Heard Mike Ashley’s looking to buy a club.

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:15 am

That’s a dramatised way of saying every player has their price, which is true.

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:15 am

dandeclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:14 am
A painful lesson for the sizable, vocal group who were ungrateful for what they had when the club was well run.
Certainly egg on a lot of faces, especially the ones that were calling posters idiots for suggesting increasing revenue is not simple.

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by jedi_master » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:16 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:12 am
Easy to say now but they shouldn’t have got involved in the first place making a right pigs ear out of it.
Absolutely.

The warning signs were there that evening when we first got wind of the purchase being completed and that massive loan being immediately put on us. As a fan, you always want whats happening at your club to be for the best and we were all frustrated with Garlick and ready for a change. We all had to be optimistic.

Looking back though with hindsight, it always seemed not quite right. Little things like Alan Pace's LinkedIn profile, ALK's substandard website, the AI Scout app having about a thousand downloads yet being talked up to high heaven. Everything had a massive air of 'amateur' about it from the get-go if we are being absolutely honest with ourselves.

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by jedi_master » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:18 am

Shaggy wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:15 am
Heard Mike Ashley’s looking to buy a club.
I'd take Ashley buying us off ALK right now in a heartbeat.
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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:19 am

jedi_master wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:18 am
I'd take Ashley buying us off ALK right now in a heartbeat.
Same

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:20 am

Jamesy wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:05 am
Let’s just believe none of it then and all will be ok?
Are they the only two options?

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by RVclaret » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:20 am

dandeclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:14 am
A painful lesson for the sizable, vocal group who were ungrateful for what they had when the club was well run.
Garlick wanted out for several years. Was it well run in the sense he built up 70m+ in cash reserves for the sale to line his pockets, didn't give Dyche a transfer budget and then sold us to leveraged buy out?
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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by warksclaret » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:21 am

I may be a cynic but I have never seen the Burnley directors move so quickly as the joint statement made by Pace, Garlick and JB, that everything was rosy and payments were on schedule (which we believe were defaulted in December).I suspect there are real truths about the story and the three decided to get their heads together very quickly, in the best interests of the club, and put a statement together-an impersonal one at that. It had the sincerity of a Boris statement about office parties

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:23 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:15 am
Certainly egg on a lot of faces, especially the ones that were calling posters idiots for suggesting increasing revenue is not simple.
I can certainly think of 1 poster that we were going to take America by storm & conquer the world globally with an expertise marketing strategy :?

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by ClaretMov » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:24 am

Strange story in that rag of a newspaper supposedly by Alan Nixon,

This from twitter at 9am this morning when asked about it.

"Regarding your story of Burnley's financial struggles why are we apparently bidding for players ? Like your story on Benteke ?"

His reply was "Ask someone who says they’ve got financial troubles"

The twitter poster "Only asking as it's got your name on it."

Nothing back from Alan Nixon

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by Burnley Ace » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:24 am

The payments for all the “small” shareholders , that was delayed from last month, should be paid within the next couple of weeks- let’s see if that goes ahead.
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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:24 am

Come on now play fair, Paul Waine is already getting dizzy with the amount of threads he has to keep up with to peddle his ludicrous spin. The last thing he needs is another thread to have to manage

Exhausting times

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by RicardoMontalban » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:26 am

Nixon being his normal cryptic and snarky self when asked how this tallies with the club reportedly making efforts to sign players: “ask someone who says they’ve got financial troubles”.

So what is it Alan? Is what is in the article a reality or is it more a case of ‘this is what an insider tells me / just reporting what I’ve been told’.

Maybe it’s true and we’re in the brown stuff, certainly a possibility, or maybe it’s more of the same as yesterday with a few embellishments in which case we’re no further on. The only extra nugget I can see is that they’re ‘possibly’ looking for buyers with nothing to back it up. Certainly his response doesn’t seem overly full of conviction to me.

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:26 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:24 am
Strange story in that rag of a newspaper supposedly by Alan Nixon,

This from twitter at 9am this morning when asked about it.

"Regarding your story of Burnley's financial struggles why are we apparently bidding for players ? Like your story on Benteke ?"

His reply was "Ask someone who says they’ve got financial troubles"

The twitter poster "Only asking as it's got your name on it."

Nothing back from Alan Nixon
Surely that’s Nixon referring to his contact?

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by ClaretMov » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:26 am

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:20 am
Garlick wanted out for several years. Was it well run in the sense he built up 70m+ in cash reserves for the sale to line his pockets, didn't give Dyche a transfer budget and then sold us to leveraged buy out?
50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million NOT 70+

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by RVclaret » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:27 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:26 am
50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million 50 million NOT 70+
Fair enough, I was going off the last accounts which showed 81m in cash.

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by jedi_master » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:27 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:24 am
Strange story in that rag of a newspaper supposedly by Alan Nixon,

This from twitter at 9am this morning when asked about it.

"Regarding your story of Burnley's financial struggles why are we apparently bidding for players ? Like your story on Benteke ?"

His reply was "Ask someone who says they’ve got financial troubles"

The twitter poster "Only asking as it's got your name on it."

Nothing back from Alan Nixon
Nixon is a notorious snarky nobhead.

He will be suggesting that the person asking the question should go to his source and ask rather than asking himself (i.e, he is only putting out what he has been told, and knows no more) without telling us who the source is of course.

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by dandeclaret » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:29 am

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:20 am
Garlick wanted out for several years. Was it well run in the sense he built up 70m+ in cash reserves for the sale to line his pockets, didn't give Dyche a transfer budget and then sold us to leveraged buy out?
It was well run in that the club operated at a profit, improved the infrastructure in a sustainable and progressive way, and achieved results well above what the club resources should realistically allow.

They sold to new investors.... if I sell my house, I am not asking the new owners if they plan to paint it a gaudy pink and put a half arsed swimming pool in the back garden.

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by RVclaret » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:30 am

jedi_master wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:27 am
Nixon is a notorious snarky nobhead.

He will be suggesting that the person asking the question should go to his source and ask rather than asking himself (i.e, he is only putting out what he has been told, and knows no more) without telling us who the source is of course.
He’s now been asked about his article and he’s said ‘My article?’

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by Stevie Morgan » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:30 am

The end result is, he ran the club well - for Mike Garlick.
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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by scouseclaret » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:30 am

jedi_master wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:16 am
Absolutely.

The warning signs were there that evening when we first got wind of the purchase being completed and that massive loan being immediately put on us. As a fan, you always want whats happening at your club to be for the best and we were all frustrated with Garlick and ready for a change. We all had to be optimistic.

Looking back though with hindsight, it always seemed not quite right. Little things like Alan Pace's LinkedIn profile, ALK's substandard website, the AI Scout app having about a thousand downloads yet being talked up to high heaven. Everything had a massive air of 'amateur' about it from the get-go if we are being absolutely honest with ourselves.
Don't know about hindsight - many of us were deeply uneasy about this from the start while others were banging on about "exciting times". The only real surprise, if these reports are true, is that its fallen apart so quickly - its only a couple of months ago they were buying up more shares FFS! Why football clubs go down this route when it invariably ends in disaster, I've no idea.

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by RVclaret » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:32 am

Nixon now confirmed it’s not his article.

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by NewClaret » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:33 am

Has now said he knows feck all about it :lol: :lol:

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:34 am

Just a typo from the sun editors. The article is just by a different journalist

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by Rombald » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:35 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:34 am
Just a typo from the sun editors. The article is just by a different journalist
Just a typo, from the Sun. Snigger

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by KRBFC » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:37 am

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:32 am
Nixon now confirmed it’s not his article.
Makes things considerably different, the day Nixon starts writing those kind of articles is the day we should start to panic given his spot on track record with us.

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by NewClaret » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:37 am

Ken Lawrence.

Never heard of him.

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by RVclaret » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:37 am

So let’s just summarise the article:

1. ALK are looking for investors (this was known from day 1)

2. Players are for sale at the right value (well, durrr)

What else that’s new? Or there’s nothing?

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:39 am

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:37 am
So let’s just summarise the article:

1. ALK are looking for investors (this was known from day 1)

2. Players are for sale at the right value (well, durrr)

What else that’s new? Or there’s nothing?
Pretty sure the line about selling up is new

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:42 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:39 am
Pretty sure the line about selling up is new
But is it true?

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by claretandbluesky » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:42 am

The new bit is relegation, no new investors, no growth potential, out of contract players, a problematic economic climate, falling revenues.
It’s hard to see any positives.
The only hope appears to be to escape relegation and regroup, and the way to do that requires keeping your squad and adding to it, probably with short term loan deals.
That is what I fancy is being explored at present.
Worrying times.

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by jedi_master » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:42 am

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:37 am
So let’s just summarise the article:

1. ALK are looking for investors (this was known from day 1)

2. Players are for sale at the right value (well, durrr)

What else that’s new? Or there’s nothing?
What's new is that there are successive media articles alongside numerous locally heard rumours that things are not right and that if we go down we are in serious trouble.

You can choose to ignore it, believe it or dispute it. There's nothing else anyone can do. I think the facts speak for themselves - we're £102m in debt and likely to be relegated. Without a benefactor the only way that debt is repaid (partially) is by selling Pope, Cornet, McNeil, Taylor and anything else that isn't bolted down along using our parachute payments to pay it. That leaves nothing else to replace the players leaving or address the 10+ players out of contract and ageing squad.

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Re: Alan Nixon on ALK, worrying

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:42 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:42 am
But is it true?
I trust the sun more than ALK. So I believe it is

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