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Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:07 am
by Inchysince1993
Would he be worth a short term contract and would you take him at this point, seen as we are so short of midfield quality and the window being closed?

It's a yes from me (this is all hypothetical as who knows if he'd even come).

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:46 am
by agreenwood
I’d now be happy enough for us to take a punt for 6 months.

I think there’s likely a number of good reasons why he’s spent the first half of the last two seasons without a club. We’ve failed to get any help for the midfield four windows in a row, so he’s possibly now the next best option.

All of that said, the club will do their homework and may have been warned off him.

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:37 am
by Spijed
He would be no less of a risk than Brentford signing Eriksen.

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:39 am
by jedi_master
Absolutely yes to this - he's apparently fit (well, fit enough for Wilshere). No brainer - what's to lose? Six month deal to provide an option off the bench.

Make it happen.

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:40 am
by Newcastleclaret93
Get him signed and in the starting eleven Saturday

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:42 am
by RVclaret
Yes - more technical ability than our midfield. Needs to prove his fitness but he’ll be desperate to show he can do it.

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:43 am
by evensteadiereddie
Get him in, get him fit, use him.

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:43 am
by Herts Clarets
He could certainly play the Defour role - better than any of our current midfield for 60 minutes then a month sat on the physio table.

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:45 am
by Top Claret
He won't be anywhere near fit enough to play in the Premier league so lets save our money instead of throwing it away on has beens

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:20 am
by claptrappers_union
There’s a reason why other clubs, even at Championship level or in Scotland are not bothering with him. Something must up straight away in the medical.

I doubt he’ll gain the fitness required to get into a matchday squad

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:33 am
by warksclaret
Its a great shout particularly after our shambolic window. After all Joey Barton was a big risk and for me has proved to be one of SD's greatest signings. Even if Wilshere plays 45 minutes a game when fit, its worth it. In the old days an hour with Cotterill or Ternent would be enough to persuade someone to join us-Wright, Gascoigne, Djemba Djemba. I am not certain we have anyone who can "sell the club" to a new target like they could. I am pretty certain if Lampard had not joined Everton yesterday Deli Ali would not know be an Everton player. I am from the old school that people buy off people not organisations

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:35 am
by claretonthecoast1882
warksclaret wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:33 am
Its a great shout particularly after our shambolic window. After all Joey Barton was a big risk and for me has proved to be one of SD's greatest signings. Even if Wilshere plays 45 minutes a game when fit, its worth it. In the old days an hour with Cotterill or Ternent would be enough to persuade someone to join us-Wright, Gascoigne, Djemba Djemba. I am not certain we have anyone who can "sell the club" to a new target like they could. I am pretty certain if Lampard had not joined Everton yesterday Deli Ali would not know be an Everton player. I am from the old school that people buy off people not organisations
Yep, not 1 player turned us down in the Cotterill or Stan era

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:41 am
by Zlatan
I'd consider inviting him to join training if he was interested and assess him for a short term deal. I cant see any negatives apart from the media hype and perhaps disjointing the nose of any of out current players who he may replace if he comes on board.

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:57 am
by scamander
The idea of Wilshire coming here is predicated on Wilshire wanting to and doing so on our terms. It seems that as he hasn't been picked up by any other club the issue might be with what he is demanding.

Scenario 1.
Wilshire is happy to work on a short term deal, knowing that he will take a couple of weeks and reserve games to get anywhere near match fit.

Scenario 2.
Wilshire wants a 1 or 2 year contract on high wages based on his career. This would make sense for him, but isn't as feasible for most clubs.

I suspect the latter is why he hasn't been picked up by anyone.

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:00 am
by Lancasterclaret
No one has picked him up for two years

No one

(I think Cesena in Serie B wanted him, but work permit scuppered that)

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:06 am
by GodIsADeeJay81
I don't know if we need, or have the space, for another youth team coach.
That's what he's been doing at Arsenal, aside from keeping his own fitness levels up.

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:22 am
by IanMcL
Are loans still available?
If so, perhaps Mr Ross B will be better.

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:34 am
by Burnley Ace
warksclaret wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:33 am
Its a great shout particularly after our shambolic window. After all Joey Barton was a big risk and for me has proved to be one of SD's greatest signings. Even if Wilshere plays 45 minutes a game when fit, its worth it. In the old days an hour with Cotterill or Ternent would be enough to persuade someone to join us-Wright, Gascoigne, Djemba Djemba. I am not certain we have anyone who can "sell the club" to a new target like they could. I am pretty certain if Lampard had not joined Everton yesterday Deli Ali would not know be an Everton player. I am from the old school that people buy off people not organisations
We need a celebrity manager like Rooney or even give John Terry a try.

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:37 am
by ClaretTony
If Wilshere was fit and ready to play Premier League football then I'd go and pick him up myself. I'd be amazed if anyone could get him fit to play football now at this level.

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:16 am
by Zlatan
ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:37 am
If Wilshere was fit and ready to play Premier League football then I'd go and pick him up myself. I'd be amazed if anyone could get him fit to play football now at this level.
^^^^ This ^^^^

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:22 am
by Rowls
Spijed wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:37 am
He would be no less of a risk than Brentford signing Eriksen.
There's risk to life vs the risk of wasting your club's money.

The kind of device Eriksen is fitted with is proven to be very effective at reviving people. Doctor's very often advise against people in his situation from playing excessive sport purely out of the cautionary principle. Hopefully it won't be put to the test. The risk to life is there but it is very, very low. There's every reason to suspect he'll be able to play a significant role for Brentford.

Wilshere a different case altogether. His risk to life is virtually nil. But his likelihood of playing football for any sustained period is a similar number.

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:45 am
by willsclarets
There's also the thing that Eriksen is twice the footballer Wilshire is

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:54 am
by willsclarets
To be honest at this point I'd be happy for the club to click on "free agents" on transfermarkt, filter by apparent value, and pick up the phone to any midfielders. I'll take Diego Costa too if he fancies

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:55 pm
by Selby Claret
Robert Snodgrass also available......

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:07 pm
by Sleeping Cat
I think Wilshire would make a sensible, low risk addition and we should give him a chance. 6 months with potential to extend.

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:18 pm
by warksclaret
willsclarets wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:54 am
To be honest at this point I'd be happy for the club to click on "free agents" on transfermarkt, filter by apparent value, and pick up the phone to any midfielders. I'll take Diego Costa too if he fancies
Wills, dont get carried away, that sounds far too sensible

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:59 pm
by Vegas Claret
why would we want a player that can pass to a team mate ? :D ;)

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:06 pm
by Vino blanco
If he were fit enough, I would have him in the team versus Watford.

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:08 pm
by Top Claret
Selby Claret wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:55 pm
Robert Snodgrass also available......
He can't even get a game at West Brom, so why would we want him

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:18 pm
by Milltown1882
Top Claret wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:08 pm
He can't even get a game at West Brom, so why would we want him
They released him yesterday after him and Ismael had a bust up.

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:53 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:54 pm
by ClaretTony
Jack Wilshere had his contract cancelled last week at Aarhus in Denmark.

He has just announced his retirement from football at the age of 30.

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:58 pm
by claptrappers_union
Thats a shame, but be a difficult decision for him. I hope he continues in the game though

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:58 pm
by Devils_Advocate
Great player, top lad and real shame about the injuries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXD-7AgJjpc

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 1:19 pm
by ClaretTony
It’s been a career of fighting injuries that have eventually forced him to quit. He still won 34 England caps and you wonder just how many he might have won had he not had so many injuries.

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 1:26 pm
by Bullabill
Jack Wheelchair.

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 1:31 pm
by TheFamilyCat
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:53 pm
https://twitter.com/JackWilshere/status ... nEjag&s=19

He's announced his retirement
Signed for Blackburn?

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 1:38 pm
by Vino blanco
I once went over to Accy Stanley’s ground to watch Burnley youth team versus Arsenal youth team. A friend of mine had a nephew playing for Burnley so we decided to take the match in. Arsenal won 2-6 I think it was: there was a young 15 or 16 year old called Jack Wilshere playing for Arsenal, who scored 2 and laid on 3 others: he was outstanding and stood out head and shoulders over the rest. So mush talent at such a young age, it’s a shame his career was plagued by injuries. Good luck to him.

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 1:42 pm
by tiger76
Wilshere enjoyed a good career, but sadly has been plagued by injuries throughout, shame because if he'd remained fit he'd have been some player at his best.

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 1:46 pm
by EarbyClaret
With his technical ability you'd hope there would be a coaching role for him somewhere - possibly at academy level or similar

Must be an incredibly hard adjustment to make when your career is cut short - hopefully he is reasonably well prepared given the injury situations he has had to deal with in recent years

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:31 am
by ClaretTony
Vino blanco wrote:
Fri Jul 08, 2022 1:38 pm
I once went over to Accy Stanley’s ground to watch Burnley youth team versus Arsenal youth team. A friend of mine had a nephew playing for Burnley so we decided to take the match in. Arsenal won 2-6 I think it was: there was a young 15 or 16 year old called Jack Wilshere playing for Arsenal, who scored 2 and laid on 3 others: he was outstanding and stood out head and shoulders over the rest. So mush talent at such a young age, it’s a shame his career was plagued by injuries. Good luck to him.
The result was 5-1 but Wilshere didn't even play in that game. The outstanding player who stood out head and shoulders over the rest that night was Henri Lansbury. He scored a hat trick and got an assist.

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:44 am
by GodIsADeeJay81
EarbyClaret wrote:
Fri Jul 08, 2022 1:46 pm
With his technical ability you'd hope there would be a coaching role for him somewhere - possibly at academy level or similar

Must be an incredibly hard adjustment to make when your career is cut short - hopefully he is reasonably well prepared given the injury situations he has had to deal with in recent years
He had been at Arsenal doing some youth coaching prior to his last playing role.
Don't be surprised to see him end up back at Arsenal.

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:19 am
by KRBFC
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:44 am
He had been at Arsenal doing some youth coaching prior to his last playing role.
Don't be surprised to see him end up back at Arsenal.
Linked with managing Arsenals under 18s

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:29 am
by GodIsADeeJay81
KRBFC wrote:
Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:19 am
Linked with managing Arsenals under 18s
I think it would be a good move for him, good place to start, he knows the club and it's ethos etc.

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:40 am
by Hipper
Vino blanco wrote:
Fri Jul 08, 2022 1:38 pm
I once went over to Accy Stanley’s ground to watch Burnley youth team versus Arsenal youth team. A friend of mine had a nephew playing for Burnley so we decided to take the match in. Arsenal won 2-6 I think it was: there was a young 15 or 16 year old called Jack Wilshere playing for Arsenal, who scored 2 and laid on 3 others: he was outstanding and stood out head and shoulders over the rest. So mush talent at such a young age, it’s a shame his career was plagued by injuries. Good luck to him.
ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:31 am
The result was 5-1 but Wilshere didn't even play in that game. The outstanding player who stood out head and shoulders over the rest that night was Henri Lansbury. He scored a hat trick and got an assist.
So apart of three or four minor factual errors Vino blanco was correct. :D

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:37 pm
by ClaretTony
KRBFC wrote:
Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:19 am
Linked with managing Arsenals under 18s
Confirmed as head of Arsenal under-18s

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:40 pm
by joey13
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:29 am
I think it would be a good move for him, good place to start, he knows the club and it's ethos etc.
I would have thought he’d be the last person to be put in charge of under 18s

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:41 pm
by Nori1958
joey13 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:40 pm
I would have thought he’d be the last person to be put in charge of under 18s
Why? Have I missed, or forgotten something

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:52 pm
by joey13
Nori1958 wrote:
Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:41 pm
Why? Have I missed, or forgotten something
Just a talent wasted

Re: Jack Wilshere

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:58 pm
by NRC
Hipper wrote:
Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:40 am
So apart of three or four minor factual errors Vino blanco was correct. :D
that correction is the funniest thing I've read on here in ages