Burnley v Watford - Player Ratings

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:08 pm

Please leave ratings for all players who have played 20 mins or more.

Scoring is from 3 to 10 as follows:

10 - Out of this World
9 - Excellent
8 - Very Good
7 -Good
6 - Average
5 - Below Par
4 - Poor
3 - Abysmal

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:10 pm

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:11 pm

Pope 6
Roberts 6
Tarkowski 6
Mee 6
Pieters 6
Lennon 5
Westwood 4
Stephens 4
McNeil 3
Cornet 5
Weghorst 5

Rodriguez 5

DAVETHEVICAR · Post by **DAVETHEVICAR** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:12 pm

From TV

Pope 7
Roberts 7
Mee 8
Tarkowski 9
Pieters 7

Lenny 6
Westwood 6
Stephens 7
MacNeil 6

Cornet 6
Big Dane 6

Jay 7

Disappointing result in absolutely appalling conditions which didn’t help either side
A point is better than none
UTC

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:13 pm

Well that successfully extinguished any lingering hope i had that we might avoid being relegated. On the plus side we've at least surpassed Derby's record low point total.

Pope 6
Roberts 6
Tarkowski 6
Mee 6
Pieters 5
Lennon 5
Westwood 3
Stephens 4
McNeil 3
Cornet 5
Weghorst 4

Rodriguez 5

ClaretFelix · Post by **ClaretFelix** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:14 pm

Pope - 7 not much to do but reliable as ever

Roberts - 8 really impressed with his positivity and long throw could be a big weapon if we set up for it right

Tarkowski - 7 steady away, one last ditch tackle but feel that was brought on by him not being strong enough in the first challenge

Mee - 7 stitched up Tarkowski with one wayward pass but got his usual blocks in

Pieter's - 6 no real high or low points, did his job well enough, unfortunate that our best chances fell to him

Lennon - 7 very positive and wanting to take his man on, but hooked when there were other candidates

Stephens - 3 (+1 for lasting 90 mins) terrible. For those calling for Corks head, they need to watch this performance. Stumbling round the pitch with very little urgency and his passing, even simple 5 yard ones were often misplaced and put us under pressure or stifled promising breaks

Westwood - 5 busy enough but usual blind lumps round the corner come to nothing in these conditions

McNeil - 4 worst performance in a Burnley shirt. Didn't look like he fancied it at all, missing Taylor's support

Cornet - 6 as I mentioned on the match thread, he's never been anywhere near being a striker, so I'm not sure why we preservere with him up there, he's wasted.

Weghorst - 6 little support and with him being 6"6, other players naturally just thump it long to him not trusting his footballing ability

Rodriguez - 6 felt he should have replaced McNeil, put himself about and unlucky with flick header.

I Don't Eat Worms · Post by **I Don't Eat Worms** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:15 pm

Pope 7 - Kicking a let down yet again, otherwise good
Roberts 6 - Shame after so good last week
Tarkowski 8 - Good game
Mee 7 - Some awful passing, but solid
Pieters 6 - Offers nothing going forwards

Lennon 5 - Didn't get into it
Westwood 4 - Didn't want the ball, passing so so bad
Stephens 6 - Decent game I thought, though some loose passing
McNeil 5 - Needs people to pass him the ball

Weghorst 5 - Not an ideal debut
Cornet 5 - Well off the pace

Rodriguez 7 - Looked good when he came on

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:17 pm

Pope 6
Roberts 6
Tarkowski 7
Mee 7
Pieters 4 - please no one try to say he’s better going forward the Taylor ever again
Lennon 5
Westwood 4 - passing miles off it
Stephens 5 - doesn’t have the intensity for a 4-4-2 anymore
McNeil 3 - he always has a stinker in these conditions, really struggles
Weghorst 6 - showed some promise
Cornet 5 - for the love of God play him on the wing, he is not a striker

Jay 6

Against United Dyche simply must try 4-4-1-1 with McNeil in the 10. It’s just not happening for him out wide anymore. The midfield needs more passing options as the gap between them and strikers is too wide, plus Maxwel needs to operate out wide. It seems so obvious yet I don’t hold my breath. Thought we missed Charlie Taylor’s drive massively today, Pieters offers no where near as much.

cockneyclaret · Post by **cockneyclaret** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:18 pm

Pope 7
Roberts 6
Tarkowski 7
Mee 5
Pieters 4
Lennon 7
Westwood 3
Stephens 4
McNeil 3
Cornet 5
Weghorst 5

Rodriguez 6

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:19 pm

Pope 6
Roberts 6
Mee 6
Tarks 7
Pieters 5
McNeil 5
westwood 5
Stephens 4
Cornet 7
Lennon 5
Weghorst 6

Rodriguez 7

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:20 pm

Pope 6
Roberts 6
Tarks 7
Mee 5
Pieters 6
McNeil 5
Westwood 5
Stephens 5
Lennon 6
Cornet 5
Weghorst 5

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:22 pm

Pope 6
Roberts 7
Tarkowski 6
Mee 6
Pieters 6
Lennon 6
Westwood 5
Stephens 5
McNeil 6
Cornet 6
Weghorst 6

Sub
Rodriguez 6

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:26 pm

Pope 7
Roberts 6
Tarks 8 **
Mee 7
Pieters 6

Lennon 5 - tried hard.
Westwood 5 looks a bit lost.
Stephens 4 - that wasn't good.
McNeil 5 - do think he's better with Charlie in the side.
Cornet 5 (looked out of sorts as well as out of position)

Weghorst 6 welcome to the zoo.

Rodriguez 6 looked OK.

Sorry.
But that was poor against a poor side who, probably shaded it.
Could be a bad couple of months.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:27 pm

Pope 8
Roberts 7
Mee 7
Tarks 8
Pieters 6
Mcneil 4 just never got into the game, crowded out and poor midfield gives him no option but to drop deep and inside.
Westwood 4 really poor, zero quality, sums up the team
Stephens 3 dreadful passing
Lennon 6 looked threatening without doing anything
Cornet 6 not his best game, not helped by the poor midfield.
Weghorst 6 nice touches on the deck, worked hard, touch of class at start of 2nd half, looks an upgrade on Wood just appalling service upto him.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:30 pm

Pope 7
Roberts 6
Tarky 7 MOM
Mee 7
Pieters 5
Lennon 7
Westwood 3
Stephens 3
McNeil 3
Weghorst 4
Cornet 6

Absolute ****. Cold, wet, miserable - that explains both how I’m feeling back in my car and that joke of a performance.

We are down, and whilst that has seemed inevitable for ages it’s still sad to say it with (now) certainty.

Early days but I personally thought Weghorst looked miles off the pace and reminded me of Nikola Zigic. Slower than I had hoped. Hope he improves…

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:31 pm

DAVETHEVICAR wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:12 pm
From TV

Big Dane 6

Disappointing result in absolutely appalling conditions which didn’t help either side
A point is better than none
UTC

Hi Dave, the new lad we've just signed, Wout Weghorst is from the Netherlands not Denmark. I assume that's who you mean by "Big Dane."

A night when it's good to be watching on tv.

Full credit for all those who were at the Turf in this weather.

UTC

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:33 pm

Pope 6
Roberts 7
Tarkowski 7
Mee 6
Pieters 6
Lennon 6
Westwood 3
Stephens 3
McNeil 3
Cornet 5
Weghorst 5

Jay 6

fungus_the_bogeyman · Post by **fungus_the_bogeyman** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:33 pm

Pope 6
Roberts 6
Pieters 5
Tarkowski 7*
Mee 6
McNeil 3
Stephens 3
Westwood 3
Lennon 6
Weghorst 5
Cornet 5
Rodriguez 6

Missing this opportunity to strengthen the midfield was absolutely criminal and will ultimately cost us our place in the PL.

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:34 pm

From tv

Pope 7 did nothing wrong
Roberts 6
Tarks 7 mom
Mee 5 to think some people on here touted him for England
Pieters 6
Lennon 4 get rid
Westwood 3 get rid
Stephens 3 who the fuk made the decision to sign him
McNeil 3 one trick pony, every team knows exactly how to play him
Weghorst 6 some nice touches
Cornet 6
Jayrod 4 looks ready to hang up his boots

Dyche 3 another predictable, boring, tacticless performance. But never mind Barnsey will be back soon.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:36 pm

Pope 6
Roberts 6
Tarkowski 8
Mee 5
Pieters 5
Lennon 5
Westwood 4
Stephens 3
McNeil 3
Cornet 5
Weghorst 5

Jay 7

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:55 pm

Pope 8 did what he had to do very well
Roberts 6 thought we missed Lowton
Tarks 8 our best defender today by a mile
Mee 5 not at his best
Pieters 5
Lennon 4. Did little of note
Stephens 3 hope it’s his last game for us
Westwood 5 a one man midfield
McNeil 4 poor today. He needs to play wide left 100%
WW 4. Thought he was off the pace. Hopefully he will improve
Cornet 5 started brightly then faded quickly. Looked like he had been away on vacation

JRod 6 certainly better than Lennon

Team overall 5

Leyland Claret · Post by **Leyland Claret** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:56 pm

Pope 7
Roberts 7
Mee 6
Tarky 8
Pieters 5
Lennon 5
Stephens 5
Westy 4
McNeil 3
Cornet 6
Weghorst 6

Jay 5

2 teams battling it out not to finish with the wooden spoon. I think the performance was slightly worse than the weather which was biblical

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:57 pm

Pope 7
Roberts 6
Tarkowski 8
Mee 6
Pieters 5
Lennon 4
Westwood 4
Stephens 3
McNeil 3
Cornet 5
Weghorst 5

Jay 6

Aclaret · Post by **Aclaret** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:04 pm

Pope 6
Roberts 6
Tarks 7

Mee 5
Pieters 5
Lennon 4
Westwood 4
Stephens 4
McNeil 3
Cornet 5
WW 5

BLH_Claret · Post by **BLH_Claret** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:06 pm

Pope 6
Roberts 6
Pieters 6
Tarkowski 8
Mee 5
Stephens 4
Westwood 3
Lennon 4
McNeill 4
Weghorst 6
Cornet 5

Rodriguez 5

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:08 pm

Decent first 20 mins then we lost a bit of momentum. Poor second half.

Pope 7 - great save in the 2nd half
Roberts 7 - looks good and his throw could be a weapon if we had people to attack it
Tarks 7 (mom) solid
Mee 6 - decent enough
Peiters 6 solid but little forward bite
Lennon 6 - thought he did pretty well
Stephens 6 - alright
Westwood 5 - a bit off it
McNeil 4 - nothing happening for him
Cornet 6 - quiet but a decent effort that was well saved by Foster
Weghorst 5 - too early to judge but didn't really do enough
Jay 4 - usual performance we've come to expect. Made zero difference

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:12 pm

Pope 7
Roberts 6
Tarkowski 7
Mee 5
Pieters 5
Lennon 5
Westwood 3
Stephens 5
McNeil 3 - awful
Cornet 5
Weghorst 5

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:17 pm

Pope 7
Roberts 4
Tarkowski 7
Mee 5
Pieters 4
Lennon 4
Westwood 4
Stephens 4
McNeil 4
Cornet 6
WW 5
Subs
Rodriguez 6

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:30 pm

Pope 8 - brilliant when needed
Roberts 7 - decent, we need to have a plan for his throws
Tarkowski 8* - organised the defence, defended well, good in attack, showed passion
Mee 6 - some good but some dodgy moments put us under pressure
Pieters 6 - pretty decent but we miss Charlie
Lennon 5 - likes the safe pass backwards
Westwood 5 - pretty poor
Stephens 4 - poor throughout
McNeil 5 - he has no right foot so just can’t play on the right
Cornet 6 - still at AFCON speed
Weghorst 6 - worked hard on very little service

Rodriguez 7 - looked lively

OssyClaret · Post by **OssyClaret** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:31 pm

Pope 6
Roberts 6
Tarkowski 8
Mee 7
Pieters 6
Lennon 5
Westwood 4
Stephens 4
McNeil 3
Cornet 6
Weghorst 5

Jay 5

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:32 pm

Pope 6
Roberts 6
Tarkowski 8
Mee 6
Pieters 6
Lennon 6
Westwood 6
Stephens 5
McNeil 4
Cornet 6
Weghorst 6

Rodriguez 6

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:45 pm

Without looking at anyone else's ratings.

Pope 7
Roberts 7
Tarkowski 7
Mee 7
Pieters 6
Lennon 5
Stephens 6
Westwood 6
McNeil 5
Cornet 6
Weghorst 5

Rodriguez 5

Disappointing result and performance between two teams that looked relegation fodder.

Only the new signings' first game, but he looked like a cross between Tony Philliskirk and John Gayle.

JarrowClaret · Post by **JarrowClaret** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:54 pm

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:45 pm
Without looking at anyone else's ratings.

Pope 7
Roberts 7
Tarkowski 7
Mee 7
Pieters 6
Lennon 5
Stephens 6
Westwood 6
McNeil 5
Cornet 6
Weghorst 5

Rodriguez 5

Disappointing result and performance between two teams that looked relegation fodder.

Only the new signings' first game, but he looked like a cross between Tony Philliskirk and John Gayle.

At least Philliskirk scored a hat trick that is almost positive.

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:56 pm

Pope 7
Roberts 7
Tarkowski 7
Mee 7
Pieters 6
Lennon 5
Westwood 5
Stephens 4
McNeil 4
Cornet 5
Weghorst 6

Rodriguez 5

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:57 pm

burnley007 wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:10 pm
3

Have to agree 3....McNeil 2

Papabendi · Post by **Papabendi** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:03 pm

Oh. That McNeil thing...

kaptin1 · Post by **kaptin1** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:05 pm

Pope 8 … one excellent save which ultimately won us a point and denied Watford all three
Roberts 7
Tarkowski 7
Mee 6
Pieters 5
Lennon 5 / Jay 6
Westwood 5
Stephens 5
McNeil 4
Cornet 7
Weghorst 5

Boss Hogg · Post by **Boss Hogg** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:08 pm

Pope 6
Roberts 6 mixed performance but good long throw
Tarkowski 7 good but with customary slack pass
Mee 6
Pieters 6 ok but some poor delivery
Lennon 4 Rightly subbed. Poor
Stephens 5
Westwood 5
McNeil 5 getting progressively worse
Cornet 6 not a striker he’s a winger isolated but bit behind pace
Weghorst 6 no lack of effort but not overly impressed

JRod 5 the usual

Awful conditions and I got drenched to the skin. Relegation written all over it. We didn’t put a dent on Watford and wouldn’t have scored if we played all night. The gap between the front two and the midfield first half was plain to see. The most exciting part of the game was when the pillow blew on to the pitch. It just summed up the match. Someone came prepared for the expected borefest.

andyh · Post by **andyh** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:12 pm

Pope 8
Roberts 6
Tarkowski 7
Mee 6
Pieters 5
Lennon 5
Westwood 5
Stephens 6
McNeil 5
Cornet 5
Weghorst 5

Rodriguez 5

Boroclaret · Post by **Boroclaret** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:17 pm

Pope - 6 - A couple of good saves. His kicking is getting worse. Simple stuff puts us under pressure.
Roberts - 4 - Couldn't find a claret shirt all night. No real overlaps, content just to hoick it forward.
Mee - 5 - Was lucky he didn't cost us a goal. If he wants longer than 2 year contract we should let him go, been on a downward trend for last 18 months.
Tarky - 6 - Some good, some bad.
Pieters - 5 - Nowhere near good enough
Westwood - 3 - How we didn't improve on centre mid is why we'll go down. Can't keep the ball, not strong enough.
Stephens - 4 - See above.
McNeil - 3 - Needs a rocket up his arse. Needs someone to grab hold of him and tell him to attack the fullback. Can only come from management that he checks and comes insider.
Cornet- 5- Two decent shots what he created himself. Ball just bypassed him as we hoofed it.
Weghorst - 3 - Well. Bloody hell. Too easily shackled by a terrible defence. Think he might have won one header.

Jay- 5- bit more impetuous

Claret · Post by **Claret** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:18 pm

Pope 8
Roberts 7
Tarkowski 9
Mee 8
Pieters 7
Lennon 7
Westwood 7
Stephens 6
McNeil 5
Cornet 8
Weghorst 5

Rodriguez 7

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:24 pm

Pope 6
Roberts 6
Tarkowski 8
Mee 6
Pieters 5
McNeil 5
Stephens
Westwood 6
Lennon 5
Cornet 6
Weghorst 5

Rodriguez 5

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:38 pm

I'll post tomorrow when I have calmed down and sobered up. At the moment just to angry.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:46 pm

Pope 8
Roberts 6
Tarkowski 9
Mee 8
Pieters 7
McNeil 6
Stephens 6
Westwood 5
Lennon 6
Cornet 6
Weghorst 6

Rodriguez 7

Scores contain an allowance for the conditions. In those conditions I thought Pope, Mee and Tarkowski, particularly the latter, were immense.

Cornet looked like he had spent 6 weeks near the equator which is as big a shock as you can get coming back to these conditions, and he has also lost Premier League sharpness. Weghorst did Ok but in the weather and with misfiring colleagues he was up against it.

We lost the centre midfield today. Stephens did OK but Westwood had a shocker. Sissoko ran the show in there.

It became a lottery so a “must win” became a “must not lose” for me, it was so tricky, evenly matched and a draw was fair. We can all see ways to play in those conditions but seeing it and doing it are very different, I suggest we be sympathetic and go again on Tuesday,

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:49 pm

Pope 7
Roberts 7
Tarks 7
Mee 6
Pieters 6
McNeil 5
Westwood 4
Stephens 5
Lennon 5
Cornet 6
Wout 6

Jay 6

Indecisive · Post by **Indecisive** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:53 pm

Pope: 7. A few good saves. Distribution shaky but conditions didn’t help at all
Roberts: 7. Didn’t do much wrong.
Tarks: 8. He is so solid. Pleasure to watch as a centre half
Mee: 7. Mostly strong, one particularly bad error
Pieters 6. No where near as good as Taylor coming forward.
Lennon 7. Started really bright. Faded second half.
Westwood 5: we were poor in centre mid today
Stephens: 4. Really poor retention. Sloppy.
McNeil 4. I really like him normally, but he really didn’t look up for it today. Barely showed for the ball, was sloppy and generally looked like he didn’t want the ball.
Cornet: 5 looked off the pace. Could still have nicked it for us though
Wenghurst: 6. Nice couple of touches here and there. Think it may take a while to get used to the pace of the premier league

JRod: 7. Looked bright and up for it. Absolutely amazed at the 4 ratings up the thread.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:57 pm

Thought Weghorst did well considering, Cornet clearly needs to be on the wing, Stephens was a lot better than Westwood (but still poor, which gives you a clue how bad Westwood was)

Pleased with a clean sheet, but we have to find a formation or a way that gets the best out of our players, particularly the attack minded ones

And our absolute inability to play it through midfield (a combination of our tactics and how poor we are there) means a team that have kept no clean sheets all season looked pretty comfortable (as did we)

10/10 for the weather though, thats about as bad as it gets

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:16 pm

Pope 7
Roberts 6
Tarkowski 8
Mee 5
Pieters 5
Lennon 6
Westwood 4
Stephens 5
McNeil 4
Cornet 6
Weghorst 6

Rodriguez 6

Blatherwickstattoo · Post by **Blatherwickstattoo** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:38 pm

Pope 7
Tarks 7

The rest I’m not even arsed about. All 6 or under

Dyche 2. Clueless

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:58 pm

Pope 7 - some good goalkeeping in torrid conditions.
Roberts 6 - decent game
Tarkowski 7 - highlight was seeing him carrying our biggest threat on the counter attack
Mee 6 - okay but another game where a shocking ball could have put us in deep trouble
Pieters 4 - not good
Lennon 4 - not good
Stephens 3 - even worse
Westwood 3 - even worse still
McNeil 4 - way off it
Cornet 5 - off the pace but some decent bits here and there
Weghorst 4 - poor debut but circumstances weren't great

Rodriguez 5 - best of the front line

Another lifeless and turgid display. Both sides will drop.