Obviously, if we survive, this will be Sean Dyche's greatest achievement.

But, it can be done and, given our performance against multi-million pound Manure,

WE CAN DO THIS

COYC

I concur!!! WE CAN DO THIS!!!!

ClaretDiver wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:59 pm

I concur!!! WE CAN DO THIS!!!!

Which three sides do you see being relegated if we survive

Our only realistic chance is if Brentford implode. Leeds, Everton and Newcastle won’t go down

warksclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:29 pm

Which three sides do you see being relegated if we survive

Who cares? We can do it !

Culmclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:33 pm

Our only realistic chance is if Brentford implode. Leeds, Everton and Newcastle won’t go down

Exactly my thoughts.If we really turn it round then what we all can hope is that Watford, Brentford and Norwich earn less points

Huge ask.

Normal business for Burnley.

Up the Clarets

Everton nearly went down around 10 years ago so I'm not going to exclude them from a relegation candidate.
We're all in the same scrap and Dyche is starting to show his worth

If you compare each team to the marker of a point a game the following teams are behind the curve:
Brentford -1, Everton -2, Newcastle -4, Burnley -6, Norwich -6, Watford -7

Brentford, Watford and Everton all have worse form than us.

If we can get Wout and Maxwel firing we will start to win games. We just have to hope that it's not too little too late. We need to start beating the teams around us when we get the chance. Having said that I'd take an early goal and an ugly win against Liverpool

Not a chance....sorry just living in the real world, just to beat Brentford to the drop we would have to win four more game than them from now until the end of the season.

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:28 am

Not a chance....sorry just living in the real world, just to beat Brentford to the drop we would have to win four more game than them from now until the end of the season.

The only other teams we could hope to drag into this are Everton and Newcastle and there is no chance this will happen, sorry but its us Norwich and Watford, its been that way since about week 3, all we can hope for is not to finish in last postion and take a few more points off the big boys to **** them off, unfortunately Its the draws that are taking us down this season, to only have lost 8 games so far the same as West Ham and be rock bottom is crazy, enjoy the rest of the season and look forward to proper football in a proper league next season in the championship

That postponed Boxing Day clash against Everton is now beginning to take on massive importance.

If we stay up from this point it has got to be one the best great escapes in premier league history.

Unfortunately we have been down since the Wolves game.

The gap is getting bigger even though we are performing better.

We can win all our games in hand and beat Brighton , Brentford , Palace, Wolves, Liverpool, Chelsea, Norwich and only need 10 wins .We will do it.

No chance for me, but I’m optimistic we’ll be really competitive next season and mount a good promotion push.

We need to just look at our own results. Who knows which teams will go on a bad run. There are always some who struggle. If we get to 36 points we will have every chance of surviving

I think we'll have a really good bash at it, and yes, the performance against Man U
was heartening.

However, I think we'll fall just short.

I desperately hope to be proved wrong on this.

Psychologically, I have accepted relegation. I hope you're right but I just feel, even if we go on a good run in our last few games, we have just left it far too late!

I expect us to survive, and relatively comfortably.

And I don't feel obliged to name the teams that won't.

We might look like a team of cloggers at times, but we've got the balls for this scrap...way more balls than the rest.

We CAN do it, but we won't. We've drawn far too many games and even with the fight we showed against Man U we aren't going to turn enough remaining games into actual wins.

We ca't even do it in the thread title.

fatboy47 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:17 am

I expect us to survive, and relatively comfortably.

And I don't feel obliged to name the teams that won't.

We might look like a team of cloggers at times, but we've got the balls for this scrap...way more balls than the rest.

I admire your confidence, however if we do survive it'll be by the skin of our teeth in my view, as alluded too it's the amount of draws which is killing us.

And our results against those around us are nowhere near good enough right now, 6 points out of a possible 21 in our games against Brentford, Everton, Leeds, Newcastle, Norwich & Watford is a poor return.

We still have a chance, but we will need to start beating teams in the lower half of the table, something we have struggled to do thus far.

I understand the reasons that this will be a tough ask, but this thread is pretty dire.

We have 18 games left and are four points from safety. We have from 1-4 games in hand versus the other teams in the bottom six and are playing better.

Likely? Maybe not.

“No chance?” Nonsense.

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:48 pm

Everton nearly went down around 10 years ago so I'm not going to exclude them from a relegation candidate.
We're all in the same scrap and Dyche is starting to show his worth

Everton are definitely in the mix, 3 points off the relegation zone, and their recent form is terrible, also Lampard is untested in this type of scenario, plus their injuries are mounting up, so why folk think they are immune to the drop baffles me.

Brentford have the points on the board, but they've lost 5 on the bounce, and are starting to leak goals, they do have some winnable games looming on paper, but if they don't start picking up points soon they'll be getting edgy.

Kgun5 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:02 am

I understand the reasons that this will be a tough ask, but this thread is pretty dire.

We have 18 games left and are four points from safety. We have from 1-4 games in hand versus the other teams in the bottom six and are playing better.

Likely? Maybe not.

“No chance?” Nonsense.

We only have two games in hand dont we?

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:13 am

Everton are definitely in the mix, 3 points off the relegation zone, and their recent form is terrible, also Lampard is untested in this type of scenario, plus their injuries are mounting up, so why folk think they are immune to the drop baffles me.

Brentford have the points on the board, but they've lost 5 on the bounce, and are starting to leak goals, they do have some winnable games looming on paper, but if they don't start picking up points soon they'll be getting edgy.

Patrick viera was untested in this situation at the start of the season with palace heavily tipped to go down but they look reasonably safe,(ish) nobody is “immune” from midtable down but when you are assessing the likelihood Everton just don’t heavily feature, you seem to be grasping positives which aren’t really there to deflect away from our negatives, Brentford are in freefall as I predicted would happen but there’s just as much chance that Watford or Norwich could capitalise on that as well as us if that did happen.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:15 am

We only have two games in hand dont we?

1 in hand on Everton, 2 in hand on Leeds, Newcastle and Watford, 3 in hand on Norwich, and 4 in hand on Brentford, now whether we can make them count is another matter entirely.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:32 am

If we stay up from this point it has got to be one the best great escapes in premier league history.

Unfortunately we have been down since the Wolves game.

The gap is getting bigger even though we are performing better.

We were 3 points from safety then, with a game in hand on 17th. We're now 4 points from safety with 2 games in hand on 17th.

It's still in our hands, probably moreso.

Going to take some doing but wins at Norwich, Brentford and Watford will make things look a whole lot rosier…

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:22 am

1 in hand on Everton, 2 in hand on Leeds, Newcastle and Watford, 3 in hand on Norwich, and 4 in hand on Brentford, now whether we can make them count is another matter entirely.

Plus Everton at home.

Marney&Mee wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:47 am

Going to take some doing but wins at Norwich, Brentford and Watford will make things look a whole lot rosier…

3 key games, and that's why we need to remain in touch, difficult but not impossible if we maintain the 2nd half levels we showed against Utd.

Our last 7 games are not bad in theory, so if we stay in the hunt we've definitely got a puncher's chance.

Although we could really do with picking up an unexpected win along the way, draws will only go so far, it's wins we could really do with and PDQ as well.

Win at Brighton to kickstart the Great Comeback

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:32 am

If we stay up from this point it has got to be one the best great escapes in premier league history.

Unfortunately we have been down since the Wolves game.

The gap is getting bigger even though we are performing better.

Bloody hell, you are a grade A Job's Comforter. Absolutely every opportunity to reinforce your stance is taken with a sense of questionable satisfaction.The OP is trying to offer some hope in what genuinely appears a somewhat forlorn situation but you just have to turn the screw even tighter to extinguish any resemblance of hope existing.

what's vital is building momentum now, to use a cricketing term 'keep the scoreboard ticking over'. Home v Liverpool, a point woyld be a huge ask. So it's two away games, Brighton and Palace. Spurs at home for a point minimum.

If we can get 5 points or more from the next 4 games it will be a sign. We also need one of Brentford/Leeds/Everton/Newcastle to get dragged in to the scrap.

Newcastle next 4 fixtures:
Villa (h), Wham (a), Brentford (a), Brighton (h)

Brentford:
Palace (h), Arsenal (a), Newcastle (a), Norwich (a)

Everton:
Leeds (h), Saints (a), Man City (h), Spurs (a)

Leeds:
Everton (a), Utd (h), Liverpool (a), Spurs (h)

I can see Leeds and Everton as having tricky fixtures. But there's a few teans playing each other.

As has been said many times on different threads, forget about what others do.

We all know that we have a jaw made of granite and Wout Werhorst gives us hope.

I'd say that there is an 85% chance of us going down, but there is always that 15%.

lakedistrictclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:30 pm

I'd say that there is an 85% chance of us going down, but there is always that 15%.

It's been said before, but it's the hope that kills you. I was quite pleasantly resigned to our fate before Tuesday. I'm still pretty sure we're going down but now I've got that nagging, annoying glimmer of hope.

RalphCoatesComb wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:47 pm

Obviously, if we survive, this will be Sea Dyche's greatest achievemet.

But, it ca be doe and, give our performace agaist multi-millio poud Maure,

WE CA DO THIS

COYC

Is the "n" key broken on your keyboard RCC

Silkyskills1 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:42 am

Bloody hell, you are a grade A Job's Comforter. Absolutely every opportunity to reinforce your stance is taken with a sense of questionable satisfaction.The OP is trying to offer some hope in what genuinely appears a somewhat forlorn situation but you just have to turn the screw even tighter to extinguish any resemblance of hope existing.

If people want to be positive and show hope fair play.
I’m not trying persuade them of anything, just merely sharing my opinion.

If I thought there was hope I would share that opinion. I was actually quite hopeful we would stay up if we had a good January.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:48 pm

If people want to be positive and show hope fair play.
I’m not trying persuade them of anything, just merely sharing my opinion.

If I thought there was hope I would share that opinion. I was actually quite hopeful we would stay up if we had a good January.

Should be 2 sections & categories to this forum, 1 for realistic posters & another for the fantasists, we would all get along better that way.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:48 pm

If people want to be positive and show hope fair play.
I’m not trying persuade them of anything, just merely sharing my opinion.

That's exactly the point I'm making. You've banged on all season with your negative attitude. We all know it. But when someone offers something different you just can't resist replying with your depressing diatribe as though we weren't aware of your stance. We know what you think; the OP was presumably trying to offer some light to what we all know is an extremely precarious position.
Another mentions 'fantasy'. Could he/ she be so deluded to think that any Claret isn't aware of the desperate position we find ourselves in? No one is fantasising about out plight but just offering a little respite to supporters as we anticipate forthcoming fixtures.

Silkyskills1 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:17 pm

That's exactly the point I'm making. You've banged on all season with your negative attitude. We all know it. But when someone offers something different you just can't resist replying with your depressing diatribe as though we weren't aware of your stance. We know what you think; the OP was presumably trying to offer some light to what we all know is an extremely precarious position.
Another mentions 'fantasy'. Could he/ she be so deluded to think that any Claret isn't aware of the desperate position we find ourselves in? No one is fantasising about out plight but just offering a little respite to supporters as we anticipate forthcoming fixtures.

I get what your saying but surely this is the point of a messageboard? To share our differing views.

as I said if we achieve this it will go down as the best great escape in prem history. I hope we achieve it I just can’t see for my life of me see how.

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:45 pm

Is the "n" key broken on your keyboard RCC

Nah, I was so excited at reliving Wout Werhorst's swivel that I completely missed it

Wen can don thin

Better?

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:20 pm

I get what your saying but surely this is the point of a messageboard? To share our differing views.

as I said if we achieve this it will go down as the best great escape in prem history. I hope we achieve it I just can’t see for my life of me see how.

Is that not the biggest red flag you have ever had on the internet, jakub thinks there should be 2 sections to this forum and you would be in the same one as him

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:20 pm

I get what your saying but surely this is the point of a messageboard? To share our differing views.

as I said if we achieve this it will go down as the best great escape in prem history. I hope we achieve it I just can’t see for my life of me see how.

Offering a realistic view you just get derided that you are negative, you are better off pretending to be positive even if you don’t believe it, just say everything’s hunky dory & keep people happy.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:20 pm

I just can’t see for my life of me see how.

Might I suggest that you don't say that in front of Sean Dyche

But, if you're SURE we're done for, you can still make a little money by backing our demise (Currently trading at 1.49 on Betfair)

Nah, Jakub,you carry on doing us all a favour - just stay at home and continue bitching from the sidelines - in your "realistic" way, of course.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:25 pm

Just say everything’s hunky dory & keep people happy

I'm a Happy Clapper and everything is Hunky Dory, I'm a Happy Clapper and everything is Hunky Dory, I'm a Happy Clapper and everything is Hunky Dory

Happy now?

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:25 pm

Offering a realistic view you just get derided that you are negative, you are better off pretending to be positive even if you don’t believe it, just say everything’s hunky dory & keep people happy.

Realistic?!

RalphCoatesComb wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:23 pm

Nah, I was so excited at reliving Wout Werhorst's swivel that I completely missed it

Wen can don thin

Better?