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Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:03 pm
by Quickenthetempo
After 10/15 minutes, a long ball went 20 yards over Cornets head and the commentator said Cornet (who was near Dyche) shouted at his manager that he won't put up with that. That he wants the ball to feet.
But the camera didn't show the incident and I know how much commentators make things up.
So did this incident happen? Anyone see or hear it?
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:05 pm
by TheFamilyCat
Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:03 pm
After 10/15 minutes, a long ball went 20 yards over Cornets head and the commentator said Cornet (who was near Dyche) shouted at his manager that he won't put up with that. That he wants the ball to feet.
But the camera didn't show the incident and I know how much commentators make things up.
So did this incident happen? Anyone see or hear it?
Wow, the commentator heard exactly what he said?
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:07 pm
by wilks_bfc
Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:03 pm
After 10/15 minutes, a long ball went 20 yards over Cornets head and the commentator said Cornet (who was near Dyche) shouted at his manager that he won't put up with that. That he wants the ball to feet.
But the camera didn't show the incident and I know how much commentators make things up.
So did this incident happen? Anyone see or hear it?
There did appear to be a discussion between the two of them, but no idea how the commentator would know what was said
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:07 pm
by evensteadiereddie
I noticed, even from the CFS that Cornet was having words.... I don't blame him. He's quick but not that quick.
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:11 pm
by clarethomer
I saw them having a conversation minutes just before our goal being conceded. Clearly couldn't hear what was said but it was likely to have been something about Cornet needing to get back as he was playing CF as a left winger.
Guy next to me blamed Dyche for the goal as thinks that the conversation could have waited til HT.
Also saw him trying to instruct Cornet to move position late in 2nd half. Genuinely get the feeling that he is still learning our style of play
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:12 pm
by Paul Waine
TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:05 pm
Wow, the commentator heard exactly what he said?
It's great that Maxwell has picked up English so quickly... or that Sean Dyche also speaks French... as does the commentator.
UTC
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:13 pm
by Quickenthetempo
TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:05 pm
Wow, the commentator heard exactly what he said?
He was setting the scene.
Sounds like he got it spot on.
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:13 pm
by Superjohnnyfrancis
If you had the class of Cornet having balls whizzing over your head all game would **** you off too
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:16 pm
by Paul Waine
clarethomer wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:11 pm
Also saw him trying to instruct Cornet to move position late in 2nd half. Genuinely get the feeling that he is still learning our style of play
TV showed Sean Dyche signalling just before Dwight McNeil was brought on. From the way he signalled it was obvious Jay Rod was going off and Dyche was telling Maxwel Cornet to move upfront.
UTC
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:16 pm
by alboclaret
I was in bob lord and saw it. Thought it was later than that in the first half though. Ball launched aimlessly down wing, Cornet instantly turned and shouted something to dyche as he was pin high to him. Dyche seemed to waive a impression of a spider at him
and said something. Not sure what it was but was a encouraging type of comment.
The ball was aimlessly but I'm not sure if Cornet was in a good position to receive it.
I thought at the time that it's the first time ive seem Cornet look like he didn't like how we were playing.
I'm not sure where he should play personally. I'd try him right wing cutting in.
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:20 pm
by Superjohnnyfrancis
alboclaret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:16 pm
I was in bob lord and saw it. Thought it was later than that in the first half though. Ball launched aimlessly down wing, Cornet instantly turned and shouted something to dyche as he was pin high to him. Dyche seemed to waive a impression of a spider at him
and said something. Not sure what it was but was a encouraging type of comment.
The ball was aimlessly but I'm not sure if Cornet was in a good position to receive it.
I thought at the time that it's the first time ive seem Cornet look like he didn't like how we were playing.
I'm not sure where he should play personally. I'd try him right wing cutting in.
Probably shouted tell that **** to stop smashing it into the air!
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:21 pm
by Stayingup
I wonder if the commentator who 'heard' this speaks French or Baoulé? I saw them talking from about 10m apart but didn't quite catch all the conversation other than 'hell Sean how can I play in this weather' in Baoulé of course.
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:23 pm
by clarethomer
Paul Waine wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:16 pm
TV showed Sean Dyche signalling just before Dwight McNeil was brought on. From the way he signalled it was obvious Jay Rod was going off and Dyche was telling Maxwel Cornet to move upfront.
UTC
It was after this that I saw dyche and woan telling him to move further back towards bob lord stand to create more space between him and Barnes.
I sat nr the benches last time we played this fixture and you heard quite a lot down there. Don't know how people watch the game sat there as it was so distracting with the amount of instruction going on to the bench/field. Nothing I saw would indicate any issues.
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:23 pm
by EarbyClaret
Towards the end when Liverpool were keeping the ball at the back looked like Barnes was asking/telling him to close down Matip
Don't think he's as effective centrally although we really struggled to get him involved when he was wide
He looks a bit jaded after the AFCON. The weather/conditions not really suiting his game either at the moment
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:29 pm
by BOYSIE31
He has looked poor and not interested in all the last 3 games
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:32 pm
by Lancasterclaret
BOYSIE31 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:29 pm
He has looked poor and not interested in all the last 3 games
*standard post after a defeat* alert
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:37 pm
by DCWat
Dyche was speaking to Cornet, not really the other way round. Interestingly, Dyche spent a bit of time pointing things out to McNeill during the first half.
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:39 pm
by evensteadiereddie
Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:32 pm
*standard post after a defeat* alert
Indeed - and absolute ********.
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:42 pm
by Lancasterclaret
Thing is, if he'd said that Cornet hasn't been as good as he was when he first came into the team, that would have been perfectly fine and hard to argue with
But he's one of the absolute wrong uns on here that have to out do each other with just how bad everything is, and he's gone all in with some utter bilge before anyone else has a chance to do it
It wrecks the board, makes him look like a t*t and I just don't get why you'd do it
Whatever floats their boats I guess
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:08 pm
by FCBurnley
Cornet looks to me like he went to Africa on safari rather than to play football and get fit. Having said that Mane was no better
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:10 pm
by wilks_bfc
FCBurnley wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:08 pm
Cornet looks to me like he went to Africa on safari rather than to play football and get fit. Having said that Mane was no better
Or Salah (but that may have been more down to Pieters
)
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:15 pm
by Devils_Advocate
Cornet: Tu m'as promis les meilleurs œufs cuits, tu as menti
Dyche: Embrasse mon cul!!!
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:17 pm
by RVclaret
FCBurnley wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:08 pm
Cornet looks to me like he went to Africa on safari rather than to play football and get fit. Having said that Mane was no better
Same with Salah. I watched Napoli v Inter yesterday too and Koulibaly was also miles off it. Completely different intensity, climate and mentality to change.
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:31 pm
by beddie
I saw something but assumed it was Dyche bollocking Cornet for being out of position. Must say he hasn’t looked the same player
since he came back from the AFCON.
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:49 pm
by fanzone
It looked like Dyche giving Cornet an ear full for being a mile out of position when we lost the ball.
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:53 pm
by Dark Cloud
They DEFINITELY had words straight after the ball was played up the line into space and way over Cornet's head. It "appeared" like they openly disagreed which ain't good when the game is unfolding right in front of them, but it passed quickly and I guess they moved on. Nothing to see here!!
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:11 pm
by Peter Loo
I shouldn’t worry to much about it, sounds just like the manager coaching a player from the touchline.
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:27 pm
by Quickenthetempo
I'm glad he spoke up about the launching of balls upfield instead of passing it to feet.
The only way we will improve is if it comes from the players themselves.
I was just checking if it happened. But I'm glad he has the character to stick up for what is right.
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:27 pm
by joey13
Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:42 pm
Thing is, if he'd said that Cornet hasn't been as good as he was when he first came into the team, that would have been perfectly fine and hard to argue with
But he's one of the absolute wrong uns on here that have to out do each other with just how bad everything is, and he's gone all in with some utter bilge before anyone else has a chance to do it
It wrecks the board, makes him look like a t*t and I just don't get why you'd do it
Whatever floats their boats I guess
What wrecks the board is posters like you constantly digging people out who have a different opinion about players , manager , or financial matters .
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:33 pm
by Boroclaret
Cornet was terrible today. Him shouting at Dyche or Dyche shouting at him doesn't solve the problem of where we play Cornet.
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 12:52 am
by IanMcL
Fitness counts
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 2:21 am
by Woodleyclaret
Service was poor to Cornet he needs quality ball to feet to get the best from him.
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 2:24 am
by FCBurnley
I think we don’t really know what is Cornets best position and neither does he !!
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:26 am
by Jakubclaret
joey13 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:27 pm
What wrecks the board is posters like you constantly digging people out who have a different opinion about players , manager , or financial matters .
100% you’ve got people discussing cornet & from that moment onwards his contributions got the potential to turn the thread into a different direction & often does & people end up discussing something else or it descends into people arguing, anyway I hope his plan fails & people continue to discuss cornet shouting at dyche.
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:43 am
by CharlieinNewMexico
Doesn’t matter where he plays if you keep wanging it 20 yds over his head even Messi wouldn’t be effective. Just play the ball to the feet of your best players. How hard is that?
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:41 am
by ClaretMov
FCBurnley wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 2:24 am
I think we don’t really know what is Cornets best position and neither does he !!
"ON THE RIGHT WING" Cutting in, his best career stats prove this.
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:43 am
by ClaretMov
CharlieinNewMexico wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:43 am
Doesn’t matter where he plays if you keep wanging it 20 yds over his head even Messi wouldn’t be effective. Just play the ball to the feet of your best players. How hard is that?
Ball to feet all day, we can't do anything with the ball when it's 30 feet in the bloody air and especially when it's blowing a gale.
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:32 am
by Lancasterclaret
joey13 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:27 pm
What wrecks the board is posters like you constantly digging people out who have a different opinion about players , manager , or financial matters .
Call it a personal crusade if you will, but people who talk complete ******** will be called out for talking complete ********
I don't mind people with criticism based on reality, but as I have already said, there is a small group of posters who wind themselves up to such an extent and desperately try to out do each other in their criticism that you'd almost think they were a parody of themselves
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:37 am
by Lancasterclaret
CharlieinNewMexico wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 5:43 am
Doesn’t matter where he plays if you keep wanging it 20 yds over his head even Messi wouldn’t be effective. Just play the ball to the feet of your best players. How hard is that?
Thing is, in the first half we used the ball over the top really effectively to turn the Liverpool defence
I thought we did a lot right yesterday, more than a lot, and we were only let down by the failure to take the two or three really good chances we had (I think the other good chances were offside) and some slack (but still unlucky) defensive play at a corner
Its very rare you leave a game v Liverpool thinking we should have won, but we really should have won
Certainly I was expecting a better reaction on here from it, but some posters decided to go all in as usual sadly
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:39 am
by CharlieinNewMexico
Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:37 am
Thing is, in the first half we used the ball over the top really effectively to turn the Liverpool defence
I thought we did a lot right yesterday, more than a lot, and we were only let down by the failure to take the two or three really good chances we had (I think the other good chances were offside) and some slack (but still unlucky) defensive play at a corner
Its very rare you leave a game v Liverpool thinking we should have won, but we really should have won
Certainly I was expecting a better reaction on here from it, but some posters decided to go all in as usual sadly
Agreed
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 12:11 pm
by Stayingup
Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:37 am
Thing is, in the first half we used the ball over the top really effectively to turn the Liverpool defence
I thought we did a lot right yesterday, more than a lot, and we were only let down by the failure to take the two or three really good chances we had (I think the other good chances were offside) and some slack (but still unlucky) defensive play at a corner
Its very rare you leave a game v Liverpool thinking we should have won, but we really should have won
Certainly I was expecting a better reaction on here from it, but some posters decided to go all in as usual sadly
Quite right.
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 12:14 pm
by Stayingup
Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:15 pm
Cornet: Tu m'as promis les meilleurs œufs cuits, tu as menti
Dyche: Embrasse mon cul!!!
Or....Pourquoi pleut-il (**** comme Vache) toujours ici quand nous jouons à un jeu
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 2:56 pm
by Superjohnnyfrancis
alboclaret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:16 pm
I was in bob lord and saw it. Thought it was later than that in the first half though. Ball launched aimlessly down wing, Cornet instantly turned and shouted something to dyche as he was pin high to him.
Dyche seemed to waive a impression of a spider at him and said something. Not sure what it was but was a encouraging type of comment.
Advanced secret tactics right there
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:13 pm
by BOYSIE31
Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:42 pm
Thing is, if he'd said that Cornet hasn't been as good as he was when he first came into the team, that would have been perfectly fine and hard to argue with
But he's one of the absolute wrong uns on here that have to out do each other with just how bad everything is, and he's gone all in with some utter bilge before anyone else has a chance to do it
It wrecks the board, makes him look like a t*t and I just don't get why you'd do it
Whatever floats their boats I guess
That's my view but it's ok you put your own spin on it
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:28 pm
by NewClaret
Probably giving away some secrets of the ATTACKING folder!
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:30 pm
by Superjohnnyfrancis
NewClaret wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:28 pm
Probably giving away some secrets of the ATTACKING folder!
Thats locked away in Pace's office, not even Dyche gets to look at that
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:33 pm
by Lancasterclaret
BOYSIE31 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:13 pm
That's my view but it's ok you put your own spin on it
Then why not say that then?
Rather than what you did?
It devalues any point you are trying to make
No one would disagree with you if you said that he looks like he's not really got into the games to the extent he was before he went to AFCON
Re: Cornet shouting at Dyche?
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:46 pm
by ClaretInLeeds
It looked to me like the ball was played into the channel and Cornet was about to aimlessly chase it when Dyche told him to hold his position on the wing.
Certainly seemed like nothing other than Dyche giving Cornet instructions and there didn’t seem to be a disagreement at all.