So how long is he out for? No pun intended.

Got to play for the under 23’s first

Beginning of April the last I heard.

Probably longer then if Dyche had taken him off against Leicester as soon as he got injured instead of waiting for ages and potentially making his injury worse.

The plus is that we're not playing until April 2. So he has time make the bench for the City game.

The Long Carabine to save the day?

Touch and go....

Ben seems to be injured at this time every year.

Ben leaves the field then….
Game 1: two goals conceded
Game 2: four goals conceded
Game 3: two goals conceded
We do miss him

We miss BM more because without him we have no leaders.

thelaughingclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:15 pm

Probably longer then if Dyche had taken him off against Leicester as soon as he got injured instead of waiting for ages and potentially making his injury worse.

I was there and it it looked like stupidity, particularly from a manager who is ultra cautious about players playing when not 100% fit

ClaretAL wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:28 pm

Ben seems to be injured at this time every year.

...and at the start

thelaughingclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:15 pm

Probably longer then if Dyche had taken him off against Leicester as soon as he got injured instead of waiting for ages and potentially making his injury worse.

Silly statement.

It was deemed just a knock, by the physios. Mee willing to run it off, until he realised he couldn't.

The Radio Lancashire commentator yesterday when announcing the teams yesterday mentioned a fracture to the fibula. Could be a while.

I read a few days ago that it was a hairline, fingers crossed it's healed enough in 3 weeks time, city as we all know is a write off, just damage limitation which could prove to be massive in terms of goal difference.

He only needs one leg and a bandage!

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:54 am

Silly statement.

It was deemed just a knock, by the physios. Mee willing to run it off, until he realised he couldn't.

Your forgetting the two attacks on him after the initial problem.

Not silly, its cost us

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:54 am

Silly statement.

It was deemed just a knock, by the physios. Mee willing to run it off, until he realised he couldn't.

Not a silly statement at all. He could literally hardly walk, and Ben telling the physio he's OK is no marker - this is Ben we're talking about. It was a stupid schoolboy error.

We need him back to help turn the 0-2 results into 0-0s. Seriously though a big miss and I really hope he remains with us in the Championship.

He'll be ok for Man City

SD on Mee's chances of facing City..."I doubt it, there is a chance but it would be a risk and reward scenario that we have had so many times this season. We will wait and see.”

dougcollins wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 13, 2022 6:00 pm

Not a silly statement at all. He could literally hardly walk, and Ben telling the physio he's OK is no marker - this is Ben we're talking about. It was a stupid schoolboy error.

I don't think anyone is saying is that it hasn't cost us. What's silly about your statement is saying that it Dyche's fault because he shouldn't have believed Ben when he said he could carry on, that it's Dyche's fault because he shouldn't have believed the physios when they said he could carry on, and that it's Dyche's fault because he should have anticipated the two further fouls.

You can correctly argue that every time a player goes down with a contact injury, that injury would have been avoided if the manager had taken him off a minute earlier. But it doesn't follow that the manager made a mistake.

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:05 pm

He'll be ok for Man City

How do you know?

Just a slight crack of fibula. 6 weeks max.

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:25 pm

Just a slight crack of fibula. 6 weeks max.

Which takes us to 12th April

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:25 pm

Just a slight crack of fibula. 6 weeks max.

So he won't be okay for Man City then?

thelaughingclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:15 pm

Probably longer then if Dyche had taken him off against Leicester as soon as he got injured instead of waiting for ages and potentially making his injury worse.

You require the manager to be a medical expert now do you? Mee was treated on the pitch after which it was deemed that he was fit to continue. I would expect the manager to take that advice.

IanMcL wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:05 pm

He'll be ok for Man City

Wouldn't really matter if we had six or seven Ben Mees playing against City, we all know its a write-off.

Forget about City , Mee needs to be back for the others games. We pretty much know we are down but Ben will make sure we go down fighting

Play Long against City. (Player, we know the balls will be) Is Collins one game ban? Go strong as we can against Norwich

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:52 pm

You require the manager to be a medical expert now do you? Mee was treated on the pitch after which it was deemed that he was fit to continue. I would expect the manager to take that advice.

There’s simply no way of knowing unless you do an X-ray get the results back whilst the game is stopped before it recommences but what some people seem to be saying is that he should have been sacrificed as a precaution.

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:29 pm

Which takes us to 12th April

Only in the real world!

Thought we all having banter and bigging up Ben's approach to injury and absolute bravery.

Hence my 'Only needs one leg and a bandage' earlier.

It should come as no surprise that having people who know far more about our players than the manager and coaching staff that we also have some who can conduct a medical assessment from either a seat in the stand or at home and know better than the medical team on the pitch.

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:57 pm

It should come as no surprise that having people who know far more about our players than the manager and coaching staff that we also have some who can conduct a medical assessment from either a seat in the stand or at home and know better than the medical team on the pitch.

Well if your not questioning the team selection, then that would be a surprise

Importantly, as the Everton game is now on the 6th April is there a chance (not touch and go) that he could play in that game?

Spijed wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:14 pm

Importantly, as the Everton game is now on the 6th April is there a chance (not touch and go) that he could play in that game?

6 April is Tartan Day.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:52 pm

You require the manager to be a medical expert now do you? Mee was treated on the pitch after which it was deemed that he was fit to continue. I would expect the manager to take that advice.

When did I say that I require the manger to be a medical expert? It was obvious watching he wasn’t 100% fit. Maybe you thought he was mobile enough to continue but he clearly wasn’t. Even if he was physically fit enough he was not mobile enough to continue. It is the premier league not Sunday league. Footballers often want to continue when they are injured, it is there nature. Dean Marney wanted to continue after he did his ACL, should Dyche have listened to him? Even though he could barely walk if the physios had said he was in tip top condition should he have played the second half? We have seen physios say a player is ok after a head injury, Keane a few years ago for example, then it transpired he had a concussion. The physios, sorry “medical experts” aren’t always correct. I would expect the manager to use some common sense myself, it didn’t take a medical expert to see Mee was struggling and wasn’t mobile, and if our physios, out medical experts, said he was fit to continue when he really did not look it and it has since transpired he has a cracked fibular then, well, good experts aren’t they!

Wokingclaret wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:12 pm

Well if your not questioning the team selection, then that would be a surprise

You may need to explain that a bit more

Nope

No worries, not surprised you couldn't make any sense of what you posted either.

I am sure you knew what you tried to say in your head just came out all wrong when you posted it.

thelaughingclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:27 am

When did I say that I require the manger to be a medical expert? It was obvious watching he wasn’t 100% fit.

And yet, the team of medics on the touchline, including doctors and physios thought it was OK that he continued.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:21 am

And yet, the team of medics on the touchline, including doctors and physios thought it was OK that he continued.

Football (and I'm not saying it was the case here) does have a big issue with injury assessments and keeping players on the pitch though.

aggi wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:39 am

Football (and I'm not saying it was the case here) does have a big issue with injury assessments and keeping players on the pitch though.

Because you can’t 100% accurately determine the injuries in fracture cases without X-rays you are pretty much guessing & hoping things can continue it’s only after further examination you know for sure & by then the damage is done or made worse the longer the player plays.

aggi wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:39 am

Football (and I'm not saying it was the case here) does have a big issue with injury assessments and keeping players on the pitch though.

The Leicester player knew he was injured too

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:31 pm

Because you can’t 100% accurately determine the injuries in fracture cases without X-rays you are pretty much guessing & hoping things can continue it’s only after further examination you know for sure & by then the damage is done or made worse the longer the player plays.

Can't always be picked up on an x-ray, I had a piece of bone floating round my knee that wasn't picked up on x-ray, only when I had an mri scan was it seen.

alwaysaclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:37 am

Can't always be picked up on an x-ray, I had a piece of bone floating round my knee that wasn't picked up on x-ray, only when I had an mri scan was it seen.

Fair enough, but you need some sort of further examination to be sure whether it’s X-rays or MRI scans, you can’t just look at something & have a feel & make a decision based on that, you need specialist equipment & waiting times for results to come through.

Initially I had examination by hospital doctor, who said I just needed physio, after they'd x-rayd, I subsequently attended physio for 5 weeks with exercises including in the pool, my knee was continually swelling until I suggested to physio should I not see someone with it, she said OK and gave me a letter to take to my gp, on seeing my gp he agreed to refer me, when asked how long would it be he said maybe 3 months, my actual words were don't be stupid I'm in constant pain. I suggested I pay private and asked how long, I was seen within 7 days and admitted for arthroscope in under 2 weeks but the consultant said straight away I had cruciate and cartilage damage when he did the obvious test's and had a feel, he subsequently fished out a considerable piece of bone and confirmed he's initial thoughts, make what you will about the diagnosis. Although I do admit Ben will have far better access to the medics.