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I know what you mean but it’s odd how we always automatically think straight away ‘in what way can we blame the victim’ myself included.CnBtruntru wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:34 pmYou would think that the money these boys earn they would have 24 hour security, crazy, none the less you don't want scrotes breaking in and robbing you, whoever you are.
There's a lot of truth in that.Burnley1989 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:50 pmI know what you mean but it’s odd how we always automatically think straight away ‘in what way can we blame the victim’ myself included.
It’s not victim blaming it’s horrible & completely wrong getting burgled in every shape & form & shouldn’t happen in a civilised society. That said it’s not a surprise so many people are getting targeted because too many people are blabbing stuff on social media coupled with crap security it’s a recipe for getting burgled & dreamland for potential thieves, the idea is to make it difficult for them so you don’t get robbed.Burnley1989 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:50 pmI know what you mean but it’s odd how we always automatically think straight away ‘in what way can we blame the victim’ myself included.
The idea that Pogba shouldn't tell people when he is away from home, isn't going to work. And safes are a dubious benefit if the burglars hold a knife to someone's throat. It has been known.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:54 pmIt’s not rocket science to ring fence the property with 2 well trained German shepherds a few cameras & good reinforced doors & locks a safe & more importantly be very careful with what you tell people, you don’t get broken into simples!
The burglars don’t get the opportunity in the first place, Alsatians aren’t snacking on pedigree chum meatballs instead, people are getting targeted for 2 reasons the intruders have inside knowledge & crap security focus on them 2 things you don’t get burgled, simples!
Erm. If you drive past these houses in Cheshire, I think you'll find they already have all that.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:54 pmIt’s not rocket science to ring fence the property with 2 well trained German shepherds a few cameras & good reinforced doors & locks a safe & more importantly be very careful with what you tell people, you don’t get broken into simples!
& the dogs & the refusal to open the mouth, some people with wealth have never been targeted & never will be because they are super security conscious & very private people, a good reason exists why some people are selected & some aren’t, the victims aren’t randomly selected it’s planned in advance & weaknesses are exploited.2 Bee Holed wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:23 amErm. If you drive past these houses in Cheshire, I think you'll find they already have all that.
Sometimes people with children don't like the idea of attack dogs roaming loose round the garden. Can you imagine why not?Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:12 amThe burglars don’t get the opportunity in the first place, Alsatians aren’t snacking on pedigree chum meatballs instead, people are getting targeted for 2 reasons the intruders have inside knowledge & crap security focus on them 2 things you don’t get burgled, simples!
You missed the word “well trained” generally puppies brought up with young children are well behaved when the dogs know them, I’m not suggesting people source pit bulls & let them loose with strange children.
You're assuming that everyone on the world is you. Not everyone is. While you would no doubt be perfectly happy to let a little baby play with a trained attack dog, many parents would not, and to castigate them for their security arrangements as a result is futile.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:17 amYou missed the word “well trained” generally puppies brought up with young children are well behaved when the dogs know them, I’m not suggesting people source pit bulls & let them loose with strange children.
It’s a simple question do you want to be robbed yes or no, if the answer is no you ensure measures are taken to stop that happening, it’s not rocket science it’s very simple basic stuff.dsr wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:33 amYou're assuming that everyone on the world is you. Not everyone is. While you would no doubt be perfectly happy to let a little baby play with a trained attack dog, many parents would not, and to castigate them for their security arrangements as a result is futile.
If there was a panacea that prevented burglary, then there wouldn't be any burglars. Anytime you believe yourself to have discovered a solution that the whole world has missed, have another think about it and see where you might be wrong.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:36 amIt’s a simple question do you want to be robbed yes or no, if the answer is no you ensure measures are taken to stop that happening, it’s not rocket science it’s very simple basic stuff.
I’ve got wealth more than I need not to pogbas extent though but I’m not the daft 1 getting robbed & I never will be.
How many do you think you’d be able to employ for that price?Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:05 amI don’t know what he’s earning but for around a grand a week you could have on-site security guards 24/7 vetted & SIA licensed, a small price when burglars are breaking into your home especially when the kids are asleep in their beds.
If people you don’t know about are entering your home when your children are asleep, does it really matter? 1k or roughly somewhere around that mark would employ 4 security guards working days & nights on shift patterns it would be a good deterrent in addition to other measures, any security expert would say 99% of burglaries could have been avoided, burglaries will always happen because people don’t take security seriously enough or say too much to the wrong people.Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:48 amHow many do you think you’d be able to employ for that price?
The stewards the we have on the Turf maybe?Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:26 pmJust think about that for a second. Around a grand a week. So around £52k a year. Between 4 people.
Who do you think you are getting for that?
Security is roughly minimum wage I’m talking somewhere around £300p/w for 40 hours per person, even if it went up to 2k we aren’t talking about somebody on road sweeper wages, it’s nothing to somebody of pogbas means & he’s unlikely to get burgled again & the kids can sleep sound & he can go to work (if you can call it that) without worrying about things back home.Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:26 pmJust think about that for a second. Around a grand a week. So around £52k a year. Between 4 people.
Who do you think you are getting for that?
Your first major error with Jakub.
What do you think a security guard on £10 per hour is going to do when a masked man shoved a gun in his face?Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:32 pmSecurity is roughly minimum wage I’m talking somewhere around £300p/w for 40 hours per person, even if it went up to 2k we aren’t talking about somebody on road sweeper wages, it’s nothing to somebody of pogbas means & he’s unlikely to get burgled again & the kids can sleep sound & he can go to work (if you can call it that) without worrying about things back home.
Are you seriously this braindead? he was playing live on TV, how the f**k is he supposed to be very private?Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:54 am& the dogs & the refusal to open the mouth, some people with wealth have never been targeted & never will be because they are super security conscious & very private people, a good reason exists why some people are selected & some aren’t, the victims aren’t randomly selected it’s planned in advance & weaknesses are exploited.
I wasn’t referring to him in particular just a general comment, must be a unwritten rule that says footballers are only allowed to be burgled whilst playing live football. People get burgled every day when not playing football.
It’s not an unwritten rule, it’s one of the first rules - try to burgle a house when the owner isn’t in!!Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:43 pmI wasn’t referring to him in particular just a general comment, must be a unwritten rule that says footballers are only allowed to be burgled whilst playing live football. People get burgled every day when not playing football.
True, common sense suggests that being the case you make it like Fort Knox that’s even more reason.Burnley Ace wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:32 pmIt’s not an unwritten rule, it’s one of the first rules - try to burgle a house when the owner isn’t in!!
I thought it was a thread about new Scandinavian dance DJs.pushpinpussy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:43 pmCan i just point out that the thread title appears wrong. ive not read the case but it will either be a burglary or more likely an aggravated burglary since they have (according to this thread) entered a property as a trespasser and most likely used or threatened force.
