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Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:20 pm
by bumba
Well done Alan Pace and his team you've shown you've balls of steel when we need it, you've sacked a failing club Legend when many wouldn't of. Bring in the right man and you've given us a real chance of staying up!
Your stocks risen with me, keep up the good work and bring the right man in to save our club!
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:22 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
Been in the pub since you heard?
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:23 pm
by Pearcey
bumba wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:20 pm
Well done Alan Pace and his team you've shown you've balls of steel when we need it, you've sacked a failing club Legend when many wouldn't of. Bring in the right man and you've given us a real chance of staying up!
Your stocks risen with me, keep up the good work and bring the right man in to save our club!
*wouldn't have
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:23 pm
by jedi_master
The only balls of steel on show are from someone daring to post a thread like this.
I’d make it a sticky to show up anyone who agrees with it.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:23 pm
by Hibsclaret
I think we should wait more than a few hours before we start back slapping Alan. Less Pace more speed I would suggest
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:26 pm
by ksrclaret
jedi_master wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:23 pm
The only balls of steel on show are from someone daring to post a thread like this.
I’d make it a sticky to show up anyone who agrees with it.
Steady now Jedi.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:27 pm
by Awayfromburnley
I am onside with the original poster.
Good things must end. I loved Dyche but fell out of love.
Was beginning to feel like Stockholm syndrome.
We move on.
No one is bigger than the club.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:28 pm
by TonbridgeClaret
bumba wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:20 pm
Well done Alan Pace and his team you've shown you've balls of steel when we need it, you've sacked a failing club Legend when many wouldn't of. Bring in the right man and you've given us a real chance of staying up!
Your stocks risen with me, keep up the good work and bring the right man in to save our club!
Spot on, well said. Speaking to others at Norwich last weekend, there were loads of others who think the same, but many seem to fear the flack if they dare to say it.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:29 pm
by bfcjg
A very successful businessman once told me it's not your decisions,but the timing of your decisions that are crucial.
I thought of that this morning timing stinks.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:29 pm
by Shaggy
Im with the OP.
Alan Pace has done what i hoped he would do at the end of the season regardless of where we were. Hopefully the end of ultra Hoofball and a we rebuild with a younger more dynamic squad
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:29 pm
by BurnleyFC
Awayfromburnley wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:27 pm
I am onside with the original poster.
Good things must end. I loved Dyche but fell out of love.
Was beginning to feel like Stockholm syndrome.
We move on.
No one is bigger than the club.
There’s ways and means to go about it.
Dyche should’ve at least been afforded the opportunity to finish the season and been given a proper goodbye. If some of the senior players have supposedly been involved in his departure them ******** to them too, they’ve been beyond garbage too many times this season.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:30 pm
by Jmw
There can’t be anyone suggesting this isn’t a brave move. We will know in 4-5 weeks time whether it is naive or genius. Unfortunately unlikely to be anywhere in the middle.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:30 pm
by claretandbluesky
Decisions need to be decisive. This was. Something was obviously wrong at the club.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:31 pm
by Superjohnnyfrancis
I feel it is six months too late but will be amazing if we stay up whoevers in charge.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:32 pm
by Awayfromburnley
BurnleyFC wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:29 pm
There’s ways and means to go about it.
Dyche should’ve at least been afforded the opportunity to finish the season and been given a proper goodbye. If some of the senior players have supposedly been involved in his departure them ******** to them too, they’ve been beyond garbage too many times this season.
I get that, but is there really room for sentiment? We are in a ruthless business (and I hate that element) but when countless millions are at stake then a good business man/woman has to be ruthless.
It might just be a masterstroke.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:34 pm
by DCWat
Fingers crossed the likes and follows are stratospheric - every cloud!
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:35 pm
by bumba
If we go down we can rebuild with a new manager with a new style, Pace has shown he can bring quality players in.
If we kept Dyche we could and most likely would of gone down then spent the championship with the same style to come back up and carry on in the same style, if anyone thinks he will change after ten years there wrong. It'll show at his next club when it's 442 rigid again.
Pace has given us a fighting chance if we go down were no worse off but maybe just maybe a new manager bounce will get us enough wins to stay up
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:40 pm
by Lowbankclaret
bumba wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:20 pm
Well done Alan Pace and his team you've shown you've balls of steel when we need it, you've sacked a failing club Legend when many wouldn't of. Bring in the right man and you've given us a real chance of staying up!
Your stocks risen with me, keep up the good work and bring the right man in to save our club!
I will come back and remind you of this thread in 3 years time when we are in league 1.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:40 pm
by Superjohnnyfrancis
There is no way Dyche was filling the turf with Dycheball especially in the championship, Alan's prob looked at forecasts and thought no way do i want him in charge there we will never get back up with the budget available.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:42 pm
by BurnleyFC
bumba wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:35 pm
If we go down we can rebuild with a new manager with a new style, Pace has shown he can bring quality players in.
If we kept Dyche we could and most likely would of gone down then spent the championship with the same style to come back up and carry on in the same style, if anyone thinks he will change after ten years there wrong. It'll show at his next club when it's 442 rigid again.
Pace has given us a fighting chance if we go down were no worse off but maybe just maybe a new manager bounce will get us enough wins to stay up
I’m not convinced this decision was taken with building for next season following relegation in mind.
More like blind panic at the thought of going down
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:42 pm
by Lowbankclaret
bumba wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:35 pm
If we go down we can rebuild with a new manager with a new style, Pace has shown he can bring quality players in.
If we kept Dyche we could and most likely would of gone down then spent the championship with the same style to come back up and carry on in the same style, if anyone thinks he will change after ten years there wrong. It'll show at his next club when it's 442 rigid again.
Pace has given us a fighting chance if we go down were no worse off but maybe just maybe a new manager bounce will get us enough wins to stay up
SD managed us for 95 games in the championship, he lost 10 yes a whole ten games. No matter which manager they get we will have lost ten by next xmas in the championship.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:42 pm
by SalisburyClaret
Any business owner who makes a decision like this without a back-up plan in place is asking for trouble. Unless we have an appointment by early next week, we’ll know this decision wasn’t thought through.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:43 pm
by DCWat
BurnleyFC wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:42 pm
I’m not convinced this decision was taken with building for next season following relegation in mind.
More like blind panic at the thought of going down
He’s bloody late to the panic party, isn’t he!?
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:49 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:40 pm
I will come back and remind you of this thread in 3 years time when we are in league 1.
Only if we can return the favour when we aren't in league 1
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:49 pm
by Clarets4me
Shaggy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:29 pm
Im with the OP.
Alan Pace has done what i hoped he would do at the end of the season regardless of where we were. Hopefully the end of ultra Hoofball and a we rebuild with a younger more dynamic squad
In League 1 ?
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:50 pm
by daveisaclaret
Well done Alan Pace, you've saddled the club with debt it can't afford to pay, swiftly overseen relegation and sacked the best manager we've had in my lifetime.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:50 pm
by jojomk1
The real worry is that this is the same Alan Pace who said, on entering the club, that he wanted Dyche to stay for 25 years
He then took that wish down some time later to 10 years
And finally gave him a new 4 year deal after we had made such a poor start to this season and when Dyche still had another year left on his then current deal
After the woeful display at Norwich, would have thought the idea of letting Dyche go was agreed between the three guys as early as Monday with the rest of this week taken up by solicitors negotiating with severance packages
Am led to believe that Garlick and JB had no knowledge of this decision at all
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:54 pm
by Lowbankclaret
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:49 pm
Only if we can return the favour when we aren't in league 1
Absolutely you can.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:55 pm
by pushpinpussy
bumba wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:20 pm
Well done Alan Pace and his team you've shown you've balls of steel when we need it, you've sacked a failing club Legend when many wouldn't of. Bring in the right man and you've given us a real chance of staying up!
Your stocks risen with me, keep up the good work and bring the right man in to save our club!
you are the same people who wanted a new chairmen. then you wanted a new manger. be careful what you keep wishing for. i despise you guys. not true Burnley fans. you are the minority, if that.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:56 pm
by Lowbankclaret
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:49 pm
Only if we can return the favour when we aren't in league 1
To be fair that’s my best positive scenario . My real fear Pace will do a Bury fc on us.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:57 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
daveisaclaret wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:50 pm
Well done Alan Pace, you've saddled the club with debt it can't afford to pay, swiftly overseen relegation and sacked the best manager we've had in my lifetime.
But the Wifi is better, so.....
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:58 pm
by BurnleyFC
Has everyone forgotten that we’re now affiliated with other clubs in the UK?
Cheers, Alan.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:58 pm
by bumba
Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:42 pm
SD managed us for 95 games in the championship, he lost 10 yes a whole ten games. No matter which manager they get we will have lost ten by next xmas in the championship.
Flip side of that is that no other manager would of won as little as Dyche this season
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:58 pm
by Espia
We're almost certainly going down. It was very likely before the sacking and almost inevitable now.
Therefore the question you have to ask yourself is Who'd be the best person to get you out of the Championship and back to the Premier League?
How about a man who has already proved he can do it with 2 promotions to his credit and with just 10 defeats in 95 games ?
It's a no brainer. Terrible decision by the Chairman.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:01 pm
by Paul Waine
BurnleyFC wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:29 pm
There’s ways and means to go about it.
Dyche should’ve at least been afforded the opportunity to finish the season and been given a proper goodbye. If some of the senior players have supposedly been involved in his departure them ******** to them too, they’ve been beyond garbage too many times this season.
Why? If Sean Dyche is setting up teams that will takes us down, why should he be "afforded the opportunity to finish the season?" You only do that if you want the team to go down. If Alan Pace has decided that Sean Dyche isn't working any more, then you fix the problem and do it quickly. Tough or otherwise, the only "proper goodbye" is a "short goodbye."
UTC
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:01 pm
by Elizabeth
jojomk1 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:50 pm
The real worry is that this is the same Alan Pace who said, on entering the club, that he wanted Dyche to stay for 25 years
He then took that wish down some time later to 10 years
And finally gave him a new 4 year deal after we had made such a poor start to this season and when Dyche still had another year left on his then current deal
After the woeful display at Norwich, would have thought the idea of letting Dyche go was agreed between the three guys as early as Monday with the rest of this week taken up by solicitors negotiating with severance packages
Am led to believe that Garlick and JB had no knowledge of this decision at all
Oh the good times that didn't materialise.
How quickly this connection with Dyche became a failed project. Too quickly for my comfort.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:03 pm
by Lancasterclaret
Goes without saying that the Dyche out lot are completely incapable of naming a replacement that will magically change our team into one that will easily survive relegation
Bit like Brexit really, celebrating it like mad but not having a plan that works to replace it
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:06 pm
by buzzclarets79
Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:42 pm
SD managed us for 95 games in the championship, he lost 10 yes a whole ten games. No matter which manager they get we will have lost ten by next xmas in the championship.
Think you need to move on. It’s been 5 years since we last graced the championship, it’s very different now.
Norwich bottom of the premier league, essentially a championship team, how many points have we taken off them this year? They’ve conceded 63 goals so far how many have the clarets put past them? 0.
To think a manager can go from 4 wins in 30 to almost unbeatable is crazy.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:08 pm
by daveisaclaret
buzzclarets79 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:06 pm
Think you need to move on. It’s been 5 years since we last graced the championship, it’s very different now.
Norwich bottom of the premier league, essentially a championship team, how many points have we taken off them this year? They’ve conceded 63 goals so far how many have the clarets put past them? 0.
To think a manager can go from 4 wins in 30 to almost unbeatable is crazy.
Two funny examples to put next to each other given Norwich got relegated with 5 wins, kept the manager and walked last season's championship
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:10 pm
by Shaggy
pushpinpussy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:55 pm
you are the same people who wanted a new chairmen. then you wanted a new manger. be careful what you keep wishing for. i despise you guys. not true Burnley fans. you are the minority, if that.
wow bet your fun at parties... sound old, boring and scared of change.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:11 pm
by Paul Waine
Espia wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:58 pm
We're almost certainly going down. It was very likely before the sacking and almost inevitable now.
Therefore the question you have to ask yourself is Who'd be the best person to get you out of the Championship and back to the Premier League?
How about a man who has already proved he can do it with 2 promotions to his credit and with just 10 defeats in 95 games ?
It's a no brainer. Terrible decision by the Chairman.
Two promotions, the last one 6 seasons ago. But, why play football that suggests you are preparing for another promotion challenge...?
Just maybe Sean Dyche didn't fancy football back in the Championship with Burnley.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:11 pm
by agreenwood
On 27 February Leeds sacked Marcelo Bielsa, who most Leeds fans loved and the majority wanted to see stay. Within days it was clear that Leeds had an immediate replacement lined up. That replacement was met with large measures of scepticism, but for the time being at least, the decisions the Leeds board have taken have been vindicated.
I’m open to the idea that we’re about to pull of a similar short-term master stroke, but I’m fearful that we have nobody line up and we’re just panicking.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:20 pm
by bf2k
agreenwood wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:11 pm
On 27 February Leeds sacked Marcelo Bielsa, who most Leeds fans loved and the majority wanted to see stay. Within days it was clear that Leeds had an immediate replacement lined up. That replacement was met with large measures of scepticism, but for the time being at least, the decisions the Leeds board have taken have been vindicated.
I’m open to the idea that we’re about to pull of a similar short-term master stroke, but I’m fearful that we have nobody line up and we’re just panicking.
If this was done in Feb you could agree with the OPs “balls of steel” comment. Doing it 8 games to go you have to question the sanity and/or footballing knowledge at the board level
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:22 pm
by Murger
Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:03 pm
Goes without saying that the Dyche out lot are completely incapable of naming a replacement that will magically change our team into one that will easily survive relegation
Bit like Brexit really, celebrating it like mad but not having a plan that works to replace it
Fair play for fitting Brexit in.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:24 pm
by Lancasterclaret
Murger wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:22 pm
Fair play for fitting Brexit in.
As a aim as being achieved but without any plan to carry it out I think its a very fair comparison
Whats the plan now Murger?
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:24 pm
by agreenwood
bf2k wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:20 pm
If this was done in Feb you could agree with the OPs “balls of steel” comment. Doing it 8 games to go you have to question the sanity and/or footballing knowledge at the board level
Aye. They should know who they want and have been given an indication that he’s willing and available.
If they’ve started the search from scratch today, the decision makes zero sense because they can have no confidence they can improve on Dyche for the 7 games left after Sunday.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:26 pm
by Jakubclaret
Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:03 pm
Goes without saying that the Dyche out lot are completely incapable of naming a replacement that will magically change our team into one that will easily survive relegation
Bit like Brexit really, celebrating it like mad but not having a plan that works to replace it
Lots of names have been suggested I'm not quite sure where you are looking, we aren't surviving relegation I don't think, it's not about that for the dyche outers I think it's more a fresh start with a new manager in the championship overseeing the rebuilding job in hand, it's exciting for a lot of people as the B word proved to be on another seemingly banned subject.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:27 pm
by Lowbankclaret
bumba wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:58 pm
Flip side of that is that no other manager would of won as little as Dyche this season
Really with our midfield, surprised we won three.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:28 pm
by Billy Balfour
I gave up reading the first post when I read the 'balls of steel' comment.
Buma, here's some advice. To be a good troll, it's best not to be so blatant. HTH.
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:28 pm
by Lancasterclaret
If they haven't got someone lined up before the Saints game (ideally before Sundays game) then this is absolutely the wrong thing to do
(Unless they guess we are down anyway, and they want to take their time over a replacement, but that essentially is us losing every game till the new bloke comes in, which I don't think makes a lot of sense either)