The worst thing….

[CoolClaret]

… about the ‘transformation’ of our club in the past 12-18 months, under ALK, for me at least is the fact that our beloved football club has gone from ‘Proudsville’ - a community club beaming with kindred spirit and local pride to a generic soulless, woke, corporate entity and it frigging stinks to high heaven.

Not one employee put out a tribute to Sean Dyche in any way shape of form yesterday and that comes from the top down, yet you’ll have Pace bashing about whatever #marketing #trend is fashionable at the minute to promote his bullshit fake altruistic persona.

I didn’t want to sell out to Americans because I feared we’d have exactly this and worse.

Terrible week to be a Burnley fan.

[Cleveleys_claret]

What a load of tosh. Proudsville ha ha wasnt so proud when certain fans booed the Everton player for breaking his fast.

Why should club employees put out messages when the daughter of his best pal is confirming he is sat in the sun drinking a beer celebrating a handsome pay off

Also where is the proof that our community work has stopped? Every home game I have been to have had the food banks outside (not saying thats done by the club as dont know if it is, but shows the community spirit is there)

[milkcrate_mosh]

I think this might be the first time in history burnley football club has been accused of being too woke

[Vino blanco]

I wasn’t happy with a leveraged by-out of the club, but it has happened and will happen again in football. As far as I am concerned Dyche has gone and will remain a great part of our history. However, life goes on and Burnley FC will carry on being MY club and I, for one, am looking forward to tomorrow’s game for the first time in a long while.

[CoolClaret]

I think this might be the first time in history burnley football club has been accused of being too woke

Check the TikTok and Pace’s own socials for further confirmation

[Cleveleys_claret]

You mean social media which is used to generate public interest, therefore allowing greater access to the club? As opposed to Garlick who did nothing like that

Not saying one is right or wrong, just what you are saying is absolute codswallop

[Swizzlestick]

Check the TikTok and Pace’s own socials for further confirmation

In his latest tweets, Pace congratulations Aaron Lennon on his appearances achievement, praises the team for our Everton victory and praises the fans. Is that ‘woke’ these days? I don’t even know any more. Unless you were talking about the Burnley FC women praise tweets who won a cup competition, which is some achievement - if you have an issue with that, it probably says more about yourself.

[Blakesboots]

What a load of tosh. Proudsville ha ha wasnt so proud when certain fans booed the Everton player for breaking his fast.

Why should club employees put out messages when the daughter of his best pal is confirming he is sat in the sun drinking a beer celebrating a handsome pay off

Also where is the proof that our community work has stopped? Every home game I have been to have had the food banks outside (not saying thats done by the club as dont know if it is, but shows the community spirit is there)

Why shouldn’t Dyche be allowed to go and sit in the sun and drink a beer? Does that indicate anything other than he needs a break, and time to refresh himself?

He may or may not have been to blame, but to moan about a bloke having time with his family in the sun is a little much.

[CoolClaret]

In his latest tweets, Pace congratulations Aaron Lennon on his appearances achievement, praises the team for our Everton victory and praises the fans. Is that ‘woke’ these days? I don’t even know any more. Unless you were talking about the Burnley FC women praise tweets who won a cup competition, which is some achievement - if you have an issue with that, it probably says more about yourself.

I mean more Pace illuminating himself as this brilliant guy - pictures with rainbow laces, Ukraine yellow and blue around the ground but in reality he’s not a true custodian of the club.

He’s gotten rid of many decent footballing people and has plunged us into debt for his own speculative purposes.

He hasn’t got a clue about us as a club or our identity.

He is a complete charlatan (at best) and a wolf in sheep’s clothing at worst.

[claret2018]

What do you want him to post on social media? A video of him booing players taking the knee?

[Cleveleys_claret]

Why shouldn’t Dyche be allowed to go and sit in the sun and drink a beer? Does that indicate anything other than he needs a break, and time to refresh himself?

He may or may not have been to blame, but to moan about a bloke having time with his family in the sun is a little much.

I am trying to say that he is happy tweets like that being put out. We have fans moaning nothing from players on twitter, well where is Dyches message to them on Twitter? There isnt one because under him the club didnt do that, why should that suddenly change

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Maybe there’s a reason no one has tweeted. As for change in the club will turn up on Thursday feeling not particularly different to how I have in the past 30 odd years!

Don’t imagine there’d be the same overreaction if the owners were not from a place outside of East Lancashire!

[Blakesboots]

I think there’s a huge subtext that we’re potentially missing. There’s been a falling out about something. Dyche and Pace have drawn lines in the sand and they’ve stuck to them.

The fact that there’s nothing coming out of the club, the players or Dyche and his team means there’s nothing that can be said.

I mentioned it before, the Americans LOVE a NDA, and I’m sure that Dyche and Pace are bound by that. The players won’t want to cross the boss.

[gandhisflipflop]

I mean more Pace illuminating himself as this brilliant guy - pictures with rainbow laces, Ukraine yellow and blue around the ground but in reality he’s not a true custodian of the club.

He’s gotten rid of many decent footballing people and has plunged us into debt for his own speculative purposes.

He hasn’t got a clue about us as a club or our identity.

He is a complete charlatan (at best) and a wolf in sheep’s clothing at worst.

The identity needs evolving. Our ‘identity’ has been revelling in the ‘little old Burnley’ line for decades.

[Swizzlestick]

I mean more Pace illuminating himself as this brilliant guy - pictures with rainbow laces, Ukraine yellow and blue around the ground but in reality he’s not a true custodian of the club.

He’s gotten rid of many decent footballing people and has plunged us into debt for his own speculative purposes.

He hasn’t got a clue about us as a club or our identity.

He is a complete charlatan (at best) and a wolf in sheep’s clothing at worst.

Leaving aside the mechanics of the leveraged buyout takeover (it took two to tango for that to happen btw, including ‘proper club man’ Garlick), I’m not entirely sure what you want him to do? Not support Ukraine or the Premier League wide rainbow laces campaign? New owners bring their own team in (usually manager too) so it’s hardly a surprise that changes were made. Frankly our club identity needed a refresh - whether this is the right way to go about it, no idea, but it also with bear in mind we have this new ownership because Dyche essentially enforced it (or he was out the door).

[Cleveleys_claret]

And got himself another fat contract. I mean 75k plus for a man with one formation

[TheFamilyCat]

… about the ‘transformation’ of our club in the past 12-18 months, under ALK, for me at least is the fact that our beloved football club has gone from ‘Proudsville’ - a community club beaming with kindred spirit and local pride to a generic soulless, woke, corporate entity and it frigging stinks to high heaven.

Not one employee put out a tribute to Sean Dyche in any way shape of form yesterday and that comes from the top down, yet you’ll have Pace bashing about whatever #marketing #trend is fashionable at the minute to promote his bullshit fake altruistic persona.

I didn’t want to sell out to Americans because I feared we’d have exactly this and worse.

Terrible week to be a Burnley fan.

You're ****** off about Dyche being sacked. You have every right to be but this is just ********.

[Targetman]

And got himself another fat contract. I mean 75k plus for a man with one formation

Your vitriol and what appears to be jealousy towards Dyche knows no bounds!

[Cleveleys_claret]

Your vitriol and what appears to be jealousy towards Dyche knows no bounds!

How is it vitriol? It is fact

Dyche will probably be greatest manager I eill be lucky to see at Burnley, I dont see us reaching the heights we have with him, but that doesnt mean he deserves a job for life. He had gone stale, very stale, we were lacklustre, whether his fault or the previous board or the new board. In the past no matter who he put out the minimum requirement was 100% effort, you can not tell me that is what we have got this season. That is down to him, not Garlick, not Pace.

Its always sad to see a hero leave, but he has not been working for peanuts, he has been very well compensated. But sadly heroes leave...Adrian Randall, Andy Cooke, Glen Little, Robbie Blake, Kurt Nogan, Ted McMinn, Sam Vokes, Scott Arfield, Kieron Trippier.

It was time for Dyche to leave in my opinion, he knows its a results business, we havent been getting results for 18 months. Yes Covid hasnt helped us, yes everything seems to have conspired against us this year.

And jealousy? In what world would I be jealous? I could never achieve what he has in both his playing and management career. I respect him highly for what he has given us, what he has built, the legacy he leaves which God please may it stay intact and help his legacy live on. I would hope it does and when the dust settles, 5 yrs down the line we build a statue in honour of him.

But now, right now, it wasnt working, we needed change.

What is tiresome is this constant Burnley would be nowhere without Dyche, who knows? Nobody can say that, the club have been good to Dyche, and Dyche has been good to us. Now lets unite behind whomever is pkaying, managing, running the club and give these billionaire clubs one last punch in the gut, lets stay up

[timshorts]

It all seems a bit cornelius fudge, which I suppose means that our next manager will be the equivalent of Dolores umbridge.

[Claretforever]

What a load of tosh. Proudsville ha ha wasnt so proud when certain fans booed the Everton player for breaking his fast.

The fans didn’t boo the Everton player breaking his fast. If you believe that then I’d say you watched the match on TV and had the situation explained to you by the TV commentators. Inside the ground the fans were oblivious to that, and were booing what they thought was Mike Dean not playing on when a player was getting treatment off the pitch.

I agree with some of your other points below this comment, but had to pick you up on this as it’s plain wrong.

[Cleveleys_claret]

The fans didn’t boo the Everton player breaking his fast. If you believe that then I’d say you watched the match on TV and had the situation explained to you by the TV commentators. Inside the ground the fans were oblivious to that, and were booing what they thought was Mike Dean not playing on when a player was getting treatment off the pitch.

I agree with some of your other points below this comment, but had to pick you up on this as it’s plain wrong.

Agree to disagree as dont really this thread to become talk of that. I was there, JH upper and sounded like it was aimed at the player, if wrong I will hold my hands up. And if I did watch on TV I wouldnt have heard, I cant stand the commentators as always anti Burnley and prefer to have on mute

[CoolClaret]

We can boo a player having special circumstances to delay a frigging PL football match for his own convenience?

No one is saying he can’t fast or whatever, but if he wants to go off momentarily to take on liquids then that shouldn’t take precedence over the game of football; simply go off the field and hydrate whilst playing with 10 men.

That’s why people boo’d - but of course it’s just easy to point the finger and smear Burnley fans as per

[Claretforever]

Agree to disagree as dont really this thread to become talk of that. I was there, JH upper and sounded like it was aimed at the player, if wrong I will hold my hands up. And if I did watch on TV I wouldnt have heard, I cant stand the commentators as always anti Burnley and prefer to have on mute

Fair enough. The shouting and screaming in the Jimmy Mac was at Dean, with shouts of blow your whistle, come on, he’s off the pitch etc. nobody had a clue about Ramadan, or that particular player’s religious background. Dean had been giving soft fouls and Everton were time wasting from the off, so fans were frustrated.

The first I knew about the fast breaking was looking at Twitter after the match.

Let’s face it, our fans aren’t the brightest at the best of times, but expecting them to be knowledgeable about the opposition players isn’t going to happen.

[Stayingup]

I think this might be the first time in history burnley football club has been accused of being too woke

I wish a few of the players would WAKE UP!!!

[elwaclaret]

One reply to anything written about this is - how can we possibly comment on why the club is taking the actions it is, when we don’t know the details of what may have triggered them to call time. SD ruled the roost, if there was an altercation with the board…. Dyche has form… is Garlick preparing to start pulling more strings, again….. did SD just want out and manoeuvre a position where they would have to be sacked? Or a hundred other reasons, we need to wait to apportion blame, if indeed there is any ‘blame’ to be assigned.

[Lowbankclaret]

What a load of tosh. Proudsville ha ha wasnt so proud when certain fans booed the Everton player for breaking his fast.

Why should club employees put out messages when the daughter of his best pal is confirming he is sat in the sun drinking a beer celebrating a handsome pay off

Also where is the proof that our community work has stopped? Every home game I have been to have had the food banks outside (not saying thats done by the club as dont know if it is, but shows the community spirit is there)

90% of fans didn’t know anything about his fast, another **** communication from the club.

[Cleveleys_claret]

Cool claret above proves my point that people looked at unfavourably in our end, and maybe not all boos were for him, but there were some, plus several comments from fans which I heard