Does anybody know why the Crest from 1988 to about 1994 was a different colour in parts, I noticed it today looking at old shirts

The Green leaf parts are silver and the claret is pink

We never seemed to get the colours right

The more I look the more I notice its a lot different like the Burnley Football Club banner is a different colour also

It was even a different shape a few times. Also one year just said “Burnley” on the bottom ribbon.

The top one just doesn't look right colourwise, and I notice the hand only has five fingers.

and why we changed 'Pretiumque Et Causa Laboris' to 'legs hearts and minds' (at least in most people's understanding these days) I will never know, we somehow just love to debunk tradition - though as others have said recently it was far from the only one Sean Dyche helped a generation to forget, even given the successes of his era.

interestingly that old and cherished (by some of us at least) motto seems most appropriate for the current ownership and situation - just make sure you translate it properly 'the prize and the cause of our labours'

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 23, 2022 1:40 pm

and why we changed 'Pretiumque Et Causa Laboris' to 'legs hearts and minds' (at least in most people's understanding these days) I will never know, we somehow just love to debunk tradition - though as others have said recently it was far from the only one Sean Dyche helped a generation to forget, even given the successes of his era.

interestingly that old and cherished (by some of us at least) motto seems most appropriate for the current ownership and situation - just make sure you translate it properly 'the prize and the cause of our labours'

Pretiumque Et Causa Laboris is nothing to do with the football club. It’s the old county borough motto. It was on our shirts for some years but not after around 1969 other than one season 2009/10 when we had the anniversary shirts for the 1959/60 team.

Probably either (a) just a lack of care or interest in getting it "right" by the people involved at the time - or (b) it was cheaper to embroider it with fewer colours. (I've not looked at the examples to see if that might be the case.)
Either way - back in the 80s/90s, the "club brand" didn't appear to be under any meaningful stewardship - as would be the case at many other clubs in the lower divisions.
If you think about owning a shirt 30-40 years ago, you wouldn't have many points of reference, other than programmes. So the difference wouldn't always be apparent.
Add to that, if somebody who isn't "design-oriented" at the club orders the shirts, and the teamwear/embroidery supplier aren't close to the club identity, errors like this will creep in.

Hopefully this is on Pace‘s list to put right also

Daz Ultra!

Probably.

gawthorpe_view wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:19 pm

Daz Ultra!

Probably.

I was going to say it's his washing machine.

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:18 pm

Hopefully this is on Pace‘s list to put right also

Would fully support going back to the crest in the fourth post here. The current one is awful and the reasons for sticking with it are flimsy. Wouldn't be entirely against a new crest either, if it was based on the one in the fourth post here.

Pickles wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 23, 2022 6:10 pm

Would fully support going back to the crest in the fourth post here. The current one is awful and the reasons for sticking with it are flimsy. Wouldn't be entirely against a new crest either, if it was based on the one in the fourth post here.

The change back is well over due i get all the arguments for and against, the current one just looks wrong to me.

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 23, 2022 6:13 pm

The change back is well over due i get all the arguments for and against, the current one just looks wrong to me.

It's a rubbish, rubbish badge and it's a shame it's been the one we've used during all our time in the Prem, unless we stay up and Pace changes it back.

I have a feeling we'll have a new crest next season.

I think as a mark of gratitude to all the people from over the border who's money has kept the club alive the roses should be white.

nyclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 23, 2022 6:59 pm

I have a feeling we'll have a new crest next season.

So do I, or relatively soon. I just hope Pace takes supporters and history into consideration. Ideally we go back to the "old" one, but definitely not one of those circle ones - Man City, Stockport County, Brentford...

I hate the old crest and prefer the current one, but each to their own.

another fan of the current one.

the previous one is just too busy, too pretentious.

Pickles wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 23, 2022 6:39 pm

It's a rubbish, rubbish badge and it's a shame it's been the one we've used during all our time in the Prem, unless we stay up and Pace changes it back.

I grew up with the one depicted above, but I do like the fact the current badge is fairly similar to the town crest.

As for the suggestion about white roses above...

Swizzlestick wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 23, 2022 8:24 pm

I hate the old crest and prefer the current one, but each to their own.

Not sure how you can 'hate' it, but each to their own.

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:41 pm

Not sure how you can 'hate' it, but each to their own.

I hate it because it’s an ugly and messy design. Hope that’s a sufficient explanation for you.

Swizzlestick wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:51 pm

I hate it because it’s an ugly and messy design. Hope that’s a sufficient explanation for you.

I 'hate' Putin for killing civilians, and I'm 'not keen' on the current/old badge because it's not beautiful and well designed.

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 23, 2022 10:04 pm

I 'hate' Putin for killing civilians, and I'm 'not keen' on the current/old badge because it's not beautiful and well designed.

Alright Susie Dent, thank you for the pompous lecture on how I should be sufficiently reacting to things.

Swizzlestick wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 23, 2022 10:14 pm

Alright Susie Dent, thank you for the pompous lecture on how I should be sufficiently reacting to things.

I hate you for saying that I was pompous, but I love you for calling me Susie Dent.

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:18 pm

Hopefully this is on Pace‘s list to put right also

Agreed!

nyclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 23, 2022 6:59 pm

I have a feeling we'll have a new crest next season.

Do you mean crust?
☹

Came across this on Twitter - nice design.

nyclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 04, 2022 4:15 pm

Came across this on Twitter - nice design.

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I like it but then I like Scotland and her lion rampant.

ClaretMov wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 23, 2022 1:25 pm

The more I look the more I notice its a lot different like the Burnley Football Club banner is a different colour alsoScreenshot_20220423-132218_Chrome.jpg

I am sure this crest was designed/created in the late 70’s when the club had a competition in the programme with a prize for the winning creation? I am sure Tony will know the origins of it if I am wrong. Prior to this we had a club crest in the 60’s similar to today’s. Although many clubs including big clubs just wore plain shirts no badge late 60’s including Man United, Everton and City.
When the 70’s came we just had the embroidered BFC letters on the shirt and then when we had that awful V strip we had BFC in a circle.
I have got used to our current crest now and think it works well with some away kits, especially white. I would not like us to change it if we were going to go for a nothing type badge like Fulham’s or AFC Bournemouth and several others.

If I remember right - Rampant lions for (Lancaster-Lancashire), Shuttle for Cotton trade, Bee for Lancashire industry, Helmet for Towneley.

Rename the club ' Burnley 1882 ' while we're at it.

It Is What It Is wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 04, 2022 6:02 pm

Rename the club ' Burnley 1882 ' while we're at it.

Why, we haven’t gone bust just yet? Then it will be Burnley 2023
Only joking guys.

Change is not good

Brian ages 68 from Burnley

nyclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Jun 04, 2022 4:15 pm

Came across this on Twitter - nice design.

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This one's got mad Lowenbrau vibes!

I hope Pace has got more important issues on his mind than tinkering with badges. You can't change the badge every decade. It's about identity. If you keep tinkering with identity, you end up with no identity.

I’m another who thinks the current badge far superior to the old one. I love the link with the 1962 team and as a Yorkie the red rose did grate a bit! I remember Selwyn used to wear his own version with the white rose instead.