• James Tarkowski

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:54 pm**

Plaudits for lots of staff flying around here tonight, and rightly so.
So here's one for JT.
What a fantastic professional he is. Playing like his career depends on it.
Well done , Tarks, and all the very best to you in the future.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:56 pm**

Fully agree.

Running out of superlatives for him. What a top, top professional.

Clarets legend.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:56 pm**

I thought he'd shut up shop earlier in the season. I'm glad I've been wrong.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:57 pm**

Superb

Going to be a huge miss next season

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:57 pm**

Utterly outstanding. Yet again.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:58 pm**

Brilliant player and outstanding season. To think some people were questioning his commitment and wanted him dropped.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:58 pm**

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:54 pm
Plaudits for lots of staff flying around here tonight, and rightly so.
So here's one for JT.
What a fantastic professional he is. Playing like his career depends on it.
Well done , Tarks, and all the very best to you in the future.

If he is going to leave I really hope he gets the move he needs to get in the England team. He deserves it on this seasons form.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:00 pm**

taio wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:58 pm
Brilliant player and outstanding season. To think some people were questioning his commitment and wanted him dropped.

Yes. That was funny

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:01 pm**

He, for me has been absolutely outstanding. You couldn’t blame him if he had become distracted or less committed as he is off at the end of the season but he hasn’t. The ultimate professional!

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:03 pm**

Bar those couple of blip games over Christmas he has been outstanding all season - probably our most consistent player

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:03 pm**

Yet he went on strike to force a move to join us.
Perhaps getting older changes your prospective on life.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:04 pm**

I am still hoping that a change of regime, retention of our place at the top table and renewed vigour throughout the team can tempt him into staying.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:05 pm**

Guitargeorge wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:04 pm
I am still hoping that a change of regime, retention of our place at the top table and renewed vigour throughout the team can tempt him into staying.

In a World Cup year, he'll want to go to a team that gives him the best chance of going. He won't be staying.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:07 pm**

Murger wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:05 pm
In a World Cup year, he'll want to go to a team that gives him the best chance of going. He won't be staying.

I wouldn't be surprised if his next move is already lined up.
He's been immense for us, we couldn't ask for more.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:09 pm**

Guitargeorge wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:04 pm
I am still hoping that a change of regime, retention of our place at the top table and renewed vigour throughout the team can tempt him into staying.

Looking at his performances, attitude and the lack of specific info re potential future clubs, I'd say there's a good chance of him plumping for another contract here if we were to stay up.

I'd presume the club are keen to keep him, given there'll be no fee if he goes.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:10 pm**

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:07 pm
I wouldn't be surprised if his next move is already lined up.
He's been immense for us, we couldn't ask for more.

It will have been lined up for 12-24 months, I’ve seen it first hand, it’s a different world with agents

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:10 pm**

Murger wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:05 pm
In a World Cup year, he'll want to go to a team that gives him the best chance of going. He won't be staying.

Alternatively he may feel sitting on a top six club's bench may be the last way to achieve this.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:13 pm**

Guitargeorge wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:04 pm
I am still hoping that a change of regime, retention of our place at the top table and renewed vigour throughout the team can tempt him into staying.

Not when you’ll get another club offering him a lot more money. I think West Ham will be a good bet. Outstanding for us again today.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:13 pm**

Normally I feel they drop off as they are moving somewhere - honestly think this is his best passage of performance for us. He is unbelievable

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:13 pm**

fatboy47 wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:10 pm
Alternatively he may feel sitting on a top six club's bench may be the last way to achieve this.

He's getting overlooked in favour of Tyrone Mings. He might just want to chance his arm, and if it doesn't get him a call up, he's doubled his pay. Win/win for him.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:15 pm**

Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:03 pm
Yet he went on strike to force a move to join us.
Perhaps getting older changes your prospective on life.

It could have been his circumstances at the time that influenced his actions. Whatever his reason(s) there is no questioning his commitment to the cause.

He’s a Rolls Royce of a player for us - I’ll be gutted to see him leave and just hope that he gets the right move and the opportunities, wherever that may be.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:18 pm**

He will have plenty of suitors with deeper pockets than we have. He's a super player. A great Dyche buy.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:19 pm**

Murger wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:13 pm
He's getting overlooked in favour of Tyrone Mings. He might just want to chance his arm, and if it doesn't get him a call up, he's doubled his pay. Win/win for him.

I was speaking to a number of Villa fans at Walking Football this afternoon and they were unanimous in saying they would rather have him than the "awful" Mings!

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:21 pm**

Consistently excellent. Committed to the cause. Will be a huge loss.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:21 pm**

Guitargeorge wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:04 pm
I am still hoping that a change of regime, retention of our place at the top table and renewed vigour throughout the team can tempt him into staying.

I mouthed that out loud today, too.
Different style if play. New management. Fresh start.

He is certainly playing his heart out and marshaling and covering, throughout the games.

A pleasure to watch him play.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:24 pm**

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:10 pm
It will have been lined up for 12-24 months, I’ve seen it first hand, it’s a different world with agents

Quite possibly.

If not though and we stay up I'd be offering him 8/10m signing on fee to try and keep him.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:24 pm**

Or whatever it costs to replace him.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:26 pm**

I think we can now safely rule out Everton as his next career move !!

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:27 pm**

He’d suit West Ham and Moyes to a t. Wouldn’t surprise me if they come in for him again. They play a mid block system which has even allowed the likes of Dawson to look very good (and I think Tarks is better than him overall). But as mentioned, he’s been so, so good for us over the years.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:28 pm**

West Ham, Leicester and Newcastle would seem the obvious options

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:33 pm**

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:00 pm
Yes. That was funny

No, it wasn’t. It was a simple recognition that he isn’t the future, and that Collins is.

As it turns out, with Mee’s injury, things have worked out as they have, but people suggesting he was dropped wasn’t anything to do with whether he would give his all, it was down to bedding Collins into the team. It was a good shout. He wants out, and that’s fair enough, but because he didn’t commit, swapping him out with Collins was a decent shout.

Tarks has been superb, and no mistake. A proper professional. Good luck to him I say, but if Mee had stayed fit, I’d want Collins to be getting game time alongside him.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:36 pm**

bobinho wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:33 pm
No, it wasn’t. It was a simple recognition that he isn’t the future, and that Collins is.

As it turns out, with Mee’s injury, things have worked out as they have, but people suggesting he was dropped wasn’t anything to do with whether he would give his all, it was down to bedding Collins into the team. It was a good shout. He wants out, and that’s fair enough, but because he didn’t commit, swapping him out with Collins was a decent shout.

Tarks has been superb, and no mistake. A proper professional. Good luck to him I say, but if Mee had stayed fit, I’d want Collins to be getting game time alongside him.

You are wrong. There were people questioning his commitment after a couple of indifferent games.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:37 pm**

taio wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:36 pm
You are wrong. There were people questioning his commitment after a couple of indifferent games.

No I’m not.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:37 pm**

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:58 pm
If he is going to leave I really hope he gets the move he needs to get in the England team. He deserves it on this seasons form.

Unfortunately this right here sums up the problem the England team has had for decades. So much picking on reputation or club reputation.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:38 pm**

bobinho wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:37 pm
No I’m not.

Sorry but you are. I explicitly remember.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:40 pm**

bfcmik wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:19 pm
I was speaking to a number of Villa fans at Walking Football this afternoon and they were unanimous in saying they would rather have him than the "awful" Mings!

They’re going to be very happy this summer then.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:42 pm**

Really has been top notch and a credit to himself, but I can’t help feeling that he / we will look back in years to come and decide that these were the best days of his career. Very rare do those moving on thrive elsewhere, Ings and Trippier being two. Heaton and Keane (very unpopular with Everton fans) being examples of what I mean.

I see why he would want to try though, I just think he will regret it later. Maybe not publicly.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:44 pm**

taio wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:38 pm
Sorry but you are. I explicitly remember.

Nope.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:47 pm**

Yes fair play to him. I and others questioned his desire earlier on in the season and we were wrong.

Well done Tarky.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:53 pm**

bobinho wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:44 pm
Nope.

Yep:

'For me Collins plays in our next match, whenever that eventually takes place, as countless posters have mentioned at least he'll be here next season, whereas Tarkowski doesn't give a monkey's as he's too busy lining up his next move.'

'Tarkowski, sell him, overrated and costing us all season long.

We are letting these average players rot this club and squad, non performances and contract situations. Why are we relying on commitment from players who aren't committed?'

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:55 pm**

taio wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:53 pm
Yep:

'For me Collins plays in our next match, whenever that eventually takes place, as countless posters have mentioned at least he'll be here next season, whereas Tarkowski doesn't give a monkey's as he's too busy lining up his next move.'

'Tarkowski, sell him, overrated and costing us all season long.

We are letting these average players rot this club and squad, non performances and contract situations. Why are we relying on commitment from players who aren't committed?'

Said by whom? And what’s wrong with the first “quote”?

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:56 pm**

bobinho wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:55 pm
Said by whom?

I won't name the names for the above. But this was was from...you:

My meaning was that he’s in the past. He’s not committed to the club or the team and he’s leaving either this month, or more likely in the summer.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:58 pm**

taio wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:56 pm
I won't name the names for the above. But this was was from...you:

My meaning was that he’s in the past. He’s not committed to the club or the team and he’s leaving either this month, or more likely in the summer.

And I stand by that. From the moment Collins was brought in to the club, and deemed fit enough, he would’ve started. Nowt to do with Tarks ability, and everything to do with his lack of commitment to the club and our future.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:58 pm**

bobinho wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:55 pm
Said by whom? And what’s wrong with the first “quote”?

Can you not the correlation between lack of commitment and this:

'whereas Tarkowski doesn't give a monkey's as he's too busy lining up his next move'

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:00 pm**

bobinho wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:58 pm
And I stand by that. From the moment Collins was brought in to the club, and deemed fit enough, he would’ve started. Nowt to do with Tarks ability, and everything to do with his lack of commitment to the club and our future.

And did I not say originally that some people questioned is commitment which you disputed?

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:02 pm**

bobinho wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:33 pm
No, it wasn’t. It was a simple recognition that he isn’t the future, and that Collins is.

As it turns out, with Mee’s injury, things have worked out as they have, but people suggesting he was dropped wasn’t anything to do with whether he would give his all, it was down to bedding Collins into the team. It was a good shout. He wants out, and that’s fair enough, but because he didn’t commit, swapping him out with Collins was a decent shout.

Tarks has been superb, and no mistake. A proper professional. Good luck to him I say, but if Mee had stayed fit, I’d want Collins to be getting game time alongside him.

You’d swap Tarkowski’s experience to give Collins game time time in a relegation battle? Okay

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:03 pm**

Correlate all you want. Tarks wouldn’t start for the reason I stated. He was done, he wants/wanted out, I wouldn’t give him the “window” to sell himself. He would’ve been in the reserves as soon as Collins showed up.

Ability is there for all to see, he’s been excellent, but he still would have been benched because we would never have known how he was going to react to it being his last season. You have hindsigt now, but we just didn’t know.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:04 pm**

bobinho wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:03 pm
Correlate all you want. Tarks wouldn’t start for the reason I stated. He was done, he wants/wanted out, I wouldn’t give him the “window” to sell himself. He would’ve been in the reserves as soon as Collins showed up.

Ability is there for all to see, he’s been excellent, but he still would have been benched because we would never have known how he was going to react to it being his last season. You have hindsigt now, but we just didn’t know.

I think you need to go to bed. You disputed the view that people questioned his commitment. You question his commitment. Priceless.

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:04 pm**

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:02 pm
You’d swap Tarkowski’s experience to give Collins game time time in a relegation battle? Okay

And you KNEW that Tarks would be playing out of his skin for us despite wanting out? Okay….

And you KNEW that we’d be in a relegation battle at this time? Okay….

Posted: **Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:05 pm**

If we were to stay up we would be barmy not to offer him 120k a week to stay for the next 3 seasons

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