Brownhill
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 12:01 am
According to 90mins, I have no idea how reliable they are, West Ham are interested in our Josh.
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Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 12:10 am
Lazy journalism. It’s always West Ham, Leicester or Everton in the rumours. I’m half expecting Claret Tony to get linked with a move to one of them soon.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 1:07 am
I am sure I saw his name linked with Stoke.Milltown1882 wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 12:10 amLazy journalism. It’s always West Ham, Leicester or Everton in the rumours. I’m half expecting Claret Tony to get linked with a move to one of them soon.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 6:05 am
West Ham were after him when we bought him.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 7:36 am
15m wouldn't buy his boot laces!
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 8:51 am
So who did we buy him from? Perhaps equally important, how much did CT cost us?
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 9:57 am
I don't believe you, several alleged experts on here have stated no one will want to buy him from us and no other PL club was interested in him when we signed him and he's barely championship quality.Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 12:01 amAccording to 90mins, I have no idea how reliable they are, West Ham are interested in our Josh.
I think I covered everything there...
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 10:02 am
Hopefully it’s a bad rumour but heard he is struggling for fitness today and that Vydra is out for the season. Hope it’s a load of rubbish.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 10:04 am
Haha if you believe sources like this for transfers then it explains a lot.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 9:57 amI don't believe you, several alleged experts on here have stated no one will want to buy him from us and no other PL club was interested in him when we signed him and he's barely championship quality.
I think I covered everything there...
No chance he goes to West Ham. Absolutely zero
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 10:10 am
Being linked with Everton too. As someone said, probably lazy journalism at this point. But more realistic than the bellend on here who repeatedly said he's low Championship/League One standard.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 10:12 am
Got to love the name calling. Mods really need to get on top of this.
But I love Burnley fans, our whole midfield has had one of the worst seasons they have had and people honestly believe they will end up at bigger clubs.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 10:12 am
90 mins have a few decent journos like Graeme Bailey.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 10:04 amHaha if you believe sources like this for transfers then it explains a lot.
No chance he goes to West Ham. Absolutely zero
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 10:13 am
There is a decent chance that Josh Brownhill will at some point end up at a bigger club.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 10:12 amGot to love the name calling. Mods really need to get on top of this.
But I love Burnley fans, our whole midfield has had one of the worst seasons they have had and people honestly believe they will end up at bigger clubs.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 10:13 am
No names mentioned. But if the cap fits......Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 10:12 amGot to love the name calling. Mods really need to get on top of this.
But I love Burnley fans, our whole midfield has had one of the worst seasons they have had and people honestly believe they will end up at bigger clubs.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 10:16 am
CT was signed from Junior Clarets in exchange for a limited edition TwixAfloatinClaret wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 8:51 amSo who did we buy him from? Perhaps equally important, how much did CT cost us?
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 10:24 am
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 10:25 am
Who?
As I say, if the cap fits wear it.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 10:28 am
But under Dyche they were barely allowed to cross the halfway line. If Brownhill gets a bit of freedom to get forward I think he'll end up being a steady Premier League midfielder. Not sure he's good enough on the ball to move to a bigger club though.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 10:12 amGot to love the name calling. Mods really need to get on top of this.
But I love Burnley fans, our whole midfield has had one of the worst seasons they have had and people honestly believe they will end up at bigger clubs.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 10:30 am
Write enough rumor articles, then if we go down and have to sell a few one is bound to be right.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 10:32 am
We all get things wrong mate. You were one of many on here who thought Dyche should be untouchable.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 10:38 am
I did - you are absolutely right. And I will acknowledge I got it wrong if we stay up, which is looking likely. You were one of the ones that perpetually slagged Dyche off. But neither of us insensitly did so in the way one poster targeted Brownhill.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 10:44 am
Leeds also interested according to reports
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 12:46 pm
Can't imagine why Leeds and Everton might be propagating crap like this at this particular time.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 12:32 am
Outstanding footballer, 100% premier league footballer
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 1:51 am
Nice lad, works his arse off, does have some ability, he's a weird one though.
He likes to go forward but his end product isn't good, he gives the ball away and gets caught high up the pitch far too much. You cannot afford to keep giving the ball away up the pitch and leave your team wide exposed for an easy counter attack when you're playing in a 442 especially at this level, at Watford he kept giving Watford 3v3 counter attacks, we were fortunate it was Watford and not a better side.
He shows nice confident turns and runs with the ball sometimes, 2 minutes later he's misplacing a 7 yard pass.
You can excuse him giving the ball away sometimes up the pitch if he's got defensive midfielders holding for him and if his end product was good. neither are true
I'm not sure he's a PL level midfielder, certainly not in a 442, I think he'd potentially be better used in a narrow LM role, so we aren't constantly defending 4v3 3v3 on counter attacks. It's a serious issue of his.
He likes to go forward but his end product isn't good, he gives the ball away and gets caught high up the pitch far too much. You cannot afford to keep giving the ball away up the pitch and leave your team wide exposed for an easy counter attack when you're playing in a 442 especially at this level, at Watford he kept giving Watford 3v3 counter attacks, we were fortunate it was Watford and not a better side.
He shows nice confident turns and runs with the ball sometimes, 2 minutes later he's misplacing a 7 yard pass.
You can excuse him giving the ball away sometimes up the pitch if he's got defensive midfielders holding for him and if his end product was good. neither are true
I'm not sure he's a PL level midfielder, certainly not in a 442, I think he'd potentially be better used in a narrow LM role, so we aren't constantly defending 4v3 3v3 on counter attacks. It's a serious issue of his.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 1:53 am
Yesterday's 3rd goal was an example of that, Cork and Brownhill holding hands up the pitch, Brownhill loses the ball, Cork falls over, 3 passes later it's in our net. Tarkowski was screaming at Brownhill at Watford for giving it away non stop.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 5:05 am
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 10:12 amGot to love the name calling. Mods really need to get on top of this.
But I love Burnley fans, our whole midfield has had one of the worst seasons they have had and people honestly believe they will end up at bigger clubs.
Get you that Olympic Gold medal for banging a beaten drum mate, go on 
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 10:27 am
Nice cast.Burnley1989 wrote: ↑Sun May 08, 2022 12:32 amOutstanding footballer, 100% premier league footballer
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 12:28 pm
Brownhill should be club captain next season
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 12:36 pm
Interesting shout and as he's one of the few who's likely to still be here he could be a contender.
Personally if Mee does go I'd install Collins as skipper.
Regarding Josh he's certainly looked much better in recent months, and chipped in with goals and assists, but he does need to stop needlessly giving the ball away, it cost us yesterday, and it could well cost us in future.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 12:39 pm
Collins far to youngtiger76 wrote: ↑Sun May 08, 2022 12:36 pmInteresting shout and as he's one of the few who's likely to still be here he could be a contender.
Personally if Mee does go I'd install Collins as skipper.
Regarding Josh he's certainly looked much better in recent months, and chipped in with goals and assists, but he does need to stop needlessly giving the ball away, it cost us yesterday, and it could well cost us in future.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 12:45 pm
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 12:49 pm
Brownhill always puts a shift in but I just don’t think he’s a starting calibre premier league midfielder.
Seems a great lad but to me screams championship.
Seems a great lad but to me screams championship.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 12:55 pm
In no man’s land ball watching leaving Buendía the freedom of the penalty box for the second goal. Mind you they were all at sea for that one.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 1:04 pm
I noticed that but I’d say more Dwights mistake for losing Digne. Can over analyse these things though. Another day the cross or shot gets blocked and it’s a moment of the game everyone forgets.ClaretLoup wrote: ↑Sun May 08, 2022 12:55 pmIn no man’s land ball watching leaving Buendía the freedom of the penalty box for the second goal. Mind you they were all at sea for that one.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 1:11 pm
Our midfield was pulled all over, yesterday. I’m a big Cork fan and have seen some good improvement in Brownhill but we really need some more quality in the middle of the park.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 1:42 pm
Brownhill is one of those players who will look better and be far more effective in a team with other technical players who can take the ball and hold it and do the more creative stuff. The better the quality around him the better he'll look. That's why he's looked better alongside Cork who keeps the ball better, but even more so when he's had McNeil offering a playmaker and Jay playing alongside Weghorst - and Cornet also playing off one flank. When he does there's less pressure on his passing and he can play to his strengths - namely being a supreme athlete (he's very, very quick and fit) and being a good simple passer. Those qualities and plenty of football intelligence mean that if others do the crafty stuff he can stretch teams with good third man runs, and link stuff together. My guess is that in a league where pace and dynamism are hugely appreciated, thats what any clubs interested in him will look for.
Unfortunately yesterday with Lennon and Barnes in the technical quality was diminished (first goal starts with Barnes hooking it hopefully into an area) and as a result he's no longer got the players around him to allow him to play to his strengths. That said, his stats were pretty good and he was far from our worst player on the day, and I don’t think he was particularly to blame for any of the goals.
Unfortunately yesterday with Lennon and Barnes in the technical quality was diminished (first goal starts with Barnes hooking it hopefully into an area) and as a result he's no longer got the players around him to allow him to play to his strengths. That said, his stats were pretty good and he was far from our worst player on the day, and I don’t think he was particularly to blame for any of the goals.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 1:51 pm
Agree with this 100%.claretspice wrote: ↑Sun May 08, 2022 1:42 pmBrownhill is one of those players who will look better and be far more effective in a team with other technical players who can take the ball and hold it and do the more creative stuff. The better the quality around him the better he'll look. That's why he's looked better alongside Cork who keeps the ball better, but even more so when he's had McNeil offering a playmaker and Jay playing alongside Weghorst - and Cornet also playing off one flank. When he does there's less pressure on his passing and he can play to his strengths - namely being a supreme athlete (he's very, very quick and fit) and being a good simple passer. Those qualities and plenty of football intelligence mean that if others do the crafty stuff he can stretch teams with good third man runs, and link stuff together. My guess is that in a league where pace and dynamism are hugely appreciated, thats what any clubs interested in him will look for.
Unfortunately yesterday with Lennon and Barnes in the technical quality was diminished (first goal starts with Barnes hooking it hopefully into an area) and as a result he's no longer got the players around him to allow him to play to his strengths. That said, his stats were pretty good and he was far from our worst player on the day, and I don’t think he was particularly to blame for any of the goals.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 1:54 pm
I’ve not seen it back so only based on seeing it live; I thought both Cork and Brownhill were poor for their third.claretspice wrote: ↑Sun May 08, 2022 1:42 pmBrownhill is one of those players who will look better and be far more effective in a team with other technical players who can take the ball and hold it and do the more creative stuff. The better the quality around him the better he'll look. That's why he's looked better alongside Cork who keeps the ball better, but even more so when he's had McNeil offering a playmaker and Jay playing alongside Weghorst - and Cornet also playing off one flank. When he does there's less pressure on his passing and he can play to his strengths - namely being a supreme athlete (he's very, very quick and fit) and being a good simple passer. Those qualities and plenty of football intelligence mean that if others do the crafty stuff he can stretch teams with good third man runs, and link stuff together. My guess is that in a league where pace and dynamism are hugely appreciated, thats what any clubs interested in him will look for.
Unfortunately yesterday with Lennon and Barnes in the technical quality was diminished (first goal starts with Barnes hooking it hopefully into an area) and as a result he's no longer got the players around him to allow him to play to his strengths. That said, his stats were pretty good and he was far from our worst player on the day, and I don’t think he was particularly to blame for any of the goals.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 2:13 pm
If someone wants to buy him for £15m, it's a no brainier, sell him! He can't play a simple pass at times and last week at Watford he was caught in possession 3 or 4 times, Tarky was going mental at him.
First thing Wacko Jacko did was to correctly bench him at West Ham, if Westwood hadn't have got injured, we'd have seen very little of him in the last 5 games.
First thing Wacko Jacko did was to correctly bench him at West Ham, if Westwood hadn't have got injured, we'd have seen very little of him in the last 5 games.
Re: Brownhill
Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 2:24 pm
Spot on that, to play in a midfield two the one thing you can’t do on a regular basis is give the ball straight to the opposition. He does it far too often for this level to be successful. If he cuts out the mistakes then maybe he has a chance to kick on.HuncoatClaret wrote: ↑Sun May 08, 2022 2:13 pmIf someone wants to buy him for £15m, it's a no brainier, sell him! He can't play a simple pass at times and last week at Watford he was caught in possession 3 or 4 times, Tarky was going mental at him.
First thing Wacko Jacko did was to correctly bench him at West Ham, if Westwood hadn't have got injured, we'd have seen very little of him in the last 5 games.
Think we need a stronger player in there really, looks lightweight to me. Scored a good goal at Watford but it’s a luxury we can’t afford with Maxwell in the side who has goals in his game. We need two brick **** houses in midfield who don’t give the ball away at all and give it to the flair players consistently.