• **** VAR and Kevin Friend

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 12:55 pm**

Vydra gets punched in the head against Norwich and Friend doesn’t give a pen.

‘Handball’ that Barnes couldn’t have done anything about and it’s a pen straightaway from our pal Kevin.

Thought football was meant to balance itself out over the season?

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 12:57 pm**

Friend didn't spot the 'offence'.

Blame VAR.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 12:58 pm**

If it had been against Tottenham would he have given it to us? I doubt it! Referees just love the big clubs. Thy know where their bread is buttered! Another example of everything that’s wrong about the Premier League.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 12:58 pm**

That’s a fine example of premier league bias….they have not not scored yet so give them a penalty….. absolutely disgusted with that decision….everything that’s wrong with this league

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 12:59 pm**

That's fu king rubbish from VAR. Friend is always going to overturn ut when they tell him to look at it as he is toast if he doesn't. Noones claiming dof that. It's not a clear error. It's not even affecting the flight of the ball really. Should have checked and gone with on field.

Bloody awful decision

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 12:59 pm**

Exactly that Cornwall. Prem interests come first.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 1:01 pm**

BabylonClaret wrote: ↑
Sun May 15, 2022 12:59 pm
That's fu king rubbish from VAR. Friend is always going to overturn ut when they tell him to look at it as he is toast if he doesn't. Noones claiming dof that. It's not a clear error. It's not even affecting the flight of the ball really. Should have checked and gone with on field.

Bloody awful decision

Not one Spurs player appealed for it. Madness.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 1:01 pm**

What the frig is his arm doing up there though.

Berk!

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 1:04 pm**

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑
Sun May 15, 2022 1:01 pm
What the frig is his arm doing up there though.

Berk!

Have you tried jumping with your ams down by your side....Berk

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 1:05 pm**

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑
Sun May 15, 2022 1:01 pm
What the frig is his arm doing up there though.

Berk!

This. He gave them no choice. This is probably down to Barnes lack of play time under the new rules.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 1:05 pm**

ClaretMov wrote: ↑
Sun May 15, 2022 1:04 pm
Have you tried jumping with your ams down by your side....Berk

He didn't jump. That took effort to keep his arm there.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 1:06 pm**

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑
Sun May 15, 2022 1:01 pm
What the frig is his arm doing up there though.

Berk!

Because he got a nudge and his arms went out to balance

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 1:06 pm**

Steddyman wrote: ↑
Sun May 15, 2022 1:05 pm
This. He gave them no choice. This is probably down to Barnes lack of play time under the new rules.

Is it f**k. It's just an instinctive thing.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 1:06 pm**

Disgusting decision - almost as bad as the Pope ‘penalty’ at Leeds and the Ashley Barnes non-goal at Leeds.

I can barely believe that was given.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 1:07 pm**

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑
Sun May 15, 2022 1:01 pm
What the frig is his arm doing up there though.

Berk!

Be zuse he's just been wrestling with the oppo player and flings himself forward to block the ball. He doesn't put his arm out to block - its already there from the tussle.

No common sense o that at all. The ball hardly moves it almost runs up his arm. There's no pass to deflect. There's no advantage. There's no shot at goal (if it stopped a shot I'd say fair enough). Then they play o and actually have a decent chance.

It's utter utter nonsense

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 1:07 pm**

Steddyman wrote: ↑
Sun May 15, 2022 1:05 pm
This. He gave them no choice. This is probably down to Barnes lack of play time under the new rules.

40cm from his arm with a ball travelling something like 50-60mph.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 1:07 pm**

Classic example of why VAR is ruining football.

Was it a 'clear and obvious mistake' by the ref? No.

In real time, could Barnes do anything about it, keeping in mind the ball was blasted at him from a yard away? No.

If you slow it down, can you see some contact with his arm? Yes. There's your penalty and no-one can argue.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 1:08 pm**

His arms were in a natural position for what had just happened before.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 1:13 pm**

ClaretMov wrote: ↑
Sun May 15, 2022 1:04 pm
Have you tried jumping with your ams down by your side....Berk

He wasn't jumping you trumpet.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 1:14 pm**

Friend must have left his glasses at home, the ????

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 1:16 pm**

Does anybody apart from his wife and kids actually like Kevin Friend?

In a league full of ***** he’s definitely top five.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 1:42 pm**

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Sun May 15, 2022 1:06 pm
Disgusting decision - almost as bad as the Pope ‘penalty’ at Leeds and the Ashley Barnes non-goal at Leeds.

I can barely believe that was given.

Theres the problem I can believe it was given
But 100% wouldn't have been given in the other penalty area

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 1:43 pm**

timel0veandtendayi wrote: ↑
Sun May 15, 2022 1:07 pm
Classic example of why VAR is ruining football.

Was it a 'clear and obvious mistake' by the ref? No.

In real time, could Barnes do anything about it, keeping in mind the ball was blasted at him from a yard away? No.

If you slow it down, can you see some contact with his arm? Yes. There's your penalty and no-one can argue.

But you can argue with those points
I've seen clearer handballs not given for those reasons
And lots of them to

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 1:49 pm**

The pause before ordering the pen is all you need to know about this tosspot.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 1:55 pm**

Embarrassing

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 1:59 pm**

Corrupt

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 2:01 pm**

You can't really argue with the penalty within the law of the game. Barnes shouldn't have his hand in that position in the box. Harsh but it is what it is.

We'd want one if it was the other way round.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 2:04 pm**

ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑
Sun May 15, 2022 2:01 pm
You can't really argue with the penalty within the law of the game. Barnes shouldn't have his hand in that position in the box. Harsh but it is what it is.

We'd want one if it was the other way round.

Yeah but Friend is still an absolute bell end of the highest order.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 2:05 pm**

ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑
Sun May 15, 2022 2:01 pm
You can't really argue with the penalty within the law of the game. Barnes shouldn't have his hand in that position in the box. Harsh but it is what it is.

We'd want one if it was the other way round.

Guarantee we don't get it if the roles are reversed.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 2:06 pm**

Herts Clarets wrote: ↑
Sun May 15, 2022 2:05 pm
Guarantee we don't get it if the roles are reversed.

Who knows. But we'd still want one.

Excellent performance and still 2 games left and who knows what the Leeds - Brighton game brings today.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 2:06 pm**

Surely all our justified anger should be directed at Stuart Attwell. I don't think that Friend was interested in giving anything.
Yes, Friend is in charge, but it seems to be 100% that referees go with VAR when asked to do so.
There's no way that Attwell could describe that as a clear and obvious error by Friend.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 2:07 pm**

Wasn’t not a foul on Barnes?

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 2:08 pm**

ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑
Sun May 15, 2022 2:06 pm
Who knows. But we'd still want one.

Excellent performance and still 2 games left and who knows what the Leeds - Brighton game brings today.

Speak for myself here but I wouldn’t even appeal for it.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 2:09 pm**

Corrupt

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 2:09 pm**

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Sun May 15, 2022 12:57 pm
Friend didn't spot the 'offence'.

Blame VAR.

This. VAR doesn't get involved if it's at the other end ...

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 2:10 pm**

Don’t VAR check all penalties?

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 2:10 pm**

To be fair Barnes had just taken a shove in the chest and seemed to be recovering balance. The ball was being flicked up to go over him.

The thing was it didn't seem like any of the fans or players were appealing for it, so why did VAR step in? It wasn't clear or obvious in real time?

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 2:14 pm**

If you were wondering how much of a mess the game of football is in, decisions like that are your answer. Absolutely appalling.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 2:19 pm**

Milltown1882 wrote: ↑
Sun May 15, 2022 12:55 pm
Thought football was meant to balance itself out over the season?

I’m still hoping it does!

2 games still to play to even things up!

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 2:21 pm**

Feels like the mitigation of why his arm was there and how close the ball was kicked from were completely ignored. It looked like the ref was itching to give it and I echo the sentiments that it would never have been given at the other end.

I'm a tad annoyed about this as our performance was good enough to come away with at least a point.

We've been diddled. I hope it doesn't cost us by the end of the season.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 2:27 pm**

Had we not already played the 4 minutes added time ? But even so as has been said Ashley barnes was off balance due to a foul on him, its natural that you use your arms in that way, but why had the whistle not already gone for the foul, and for the end to the first half.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 2:33 pm**

Absolutely no arguments from me as tough as it is to accept.
Every football fan knows that if the ball strikes the arm which is away from the body in the penalty box it will be given as a penalty.
The Kevin Friend haters need to get a grip , he could do nothing as the current rules stand.

Should it have been a penalty? Absolutely not and let’s get back to the deliberate handball rule.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 2:34 pm**

Barnes looks to me like he's trying to thrust his chest out to block the ball as he sees the Spurs player going to flick it. In thrusting his chest out he quite naturally puts his arms out and the ball doesn't strike his chest but inadvertently brushes his arm. No way a pen bearing in mind the minute distance from which the ball was kicked at him, but more than that, I just want a referee, ANY referee, to be asked to check the pitch side monitor and have the balls to say "nope, I believe I got it right first time", because we all know that being called to the monitor is simply code for, we've decided you're wrong so change your mind whether you agree with us here at Stockley or not!

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 2:38 pm**

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sun May 15, 2022 2:10 pm
Don’t VAR check all penalties?

Did they check Krul punching Vydra ?

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 2:58 pm**

While we haven't been good enough for long periods and can hold no excuses for that, this season the decisions against us have been disgusting at times.
The Krul one at Norwich probably being the worst decision I've ever seen, if I was making mistakes like that at work I'd be down the road!

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 3:00 pm**

Dark Cloud wrote: ↑
Sun May 15, 2022 2:34 pm
Barnes looks to me like he's trying to thrust his chest out to block the ball as he sees the Spurs player going to flick it. In thrusting his chest out he quite naturally puts his arms out and the ball doesn't strike his chest but inadvertently brushes his arm. No way a pen bearing in mind the minute distance from which the ball was kicked at him, but more than that, I just want a referee, ANY referee, to be asked to check the pitch side monitor and have the balls to say "nope, I believe I got it right first time", because we all know that being called to the monitor is simply code for, we've decided you're wrong so change your mind whether you agree with us here at Stockley or not!

I agree with this. I would like to see a ref look at the monitor and back his original decision if it looked correct. As soon as they check the screen now you know it's a given.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 3:11 pm**

Let us not forget the VAR referee once awarded a goal for a shot that went wide of the goal. That is the level of competence we are faced with.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 3:31 pm**

Not calmed down yet ******* ridiculous decision. I hope the VAR officials enjoy their brown envelopes

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 3:33 pm**

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Sun May 15, 2022 12:57 pm
Friend didn't spot the 'offence'.

Blame VAR.

Referees decision is final and referee has final decision.

Posted: **Sun May 15, 2022 4:02 pm**

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Sun May 15, 2022 2:08 pm
Speak for myself here but I wouldn’t even appeal for it.

Spurs fans appeal for everything…… not a murmer of an appeal…. Tells you all you need to know

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