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England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 9:27 am
by Milltown1882
Good to see a couple of new faces. No idea how Matt Parkinson still doesn’t get a chance.
Ben Stokes (c)
James Anderson
Jonny Bairstow
Stuart Broad
Harry Brook
Zak Crawley
Ben Foakes
Jack Leach
Alex Lees
Craig Overton
Ollie Pope
Matthew Potts
Joe Root
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 9:46 am
by fatboy47
Milltown1882 wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 9:27 am
Good to see a couple of new faces. No idea how Matt Parkinson still doesn’t get a chance.
Ben Stokes (c)
James Anderson
Jonny Bairstow
Stuart Broad
Harry Brook
Zak Crawley
Ben Foakes
Jack Leach
Alex Lees
Craig Overton
Ollie Pope
Matthew Potts
Joe Root
Very rare for a Lancs spinner to become established as a regular in the England side.
Can't remember many in 53 years watching us.
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 9:48 am
by Newcastleclaret93
Milltown1882 wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 9:27 am
Good to see a couple of new faces. No idea how Matt Parkinson still doesn’t get a chance.
Ben Stokes (c)
James Anderson
Jonny Bairstow
Stuart Broad
Harry Brook
Zak Crawley
Ben Foakes
Jack Leach
Alex Lees
Craig Overton
Ollie Pope
Matthew Potts
Joe Root
Happy that Brook and Potts have been given a chance.
Brook in particular looks a good talent
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 9:53 am
by RVclaret
It’s just baffling at this point how Parkinson isn’t in. Started the season really well for Lancs too. And as for Craig Overton zzzzzzz
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 9:55 am
by onewillieirvine
I recall Chris Schofield got a few games about twenty years ago. Prior to him I can only think of Roy Tattersall.
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 10:01 am
by CleggHall
Tommy Greenhalgh, Rochdale’s best and Lancashire leg spin.
Very difficult for any spinner to get into the test side on home soil in England, the game and wickets are set up for seam bowlers.
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 10:01 am
by Newcastleclaret93
RVclaret wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 9:53 am
It’s just baffling at this point how Parkinson isn’t in. Started the season really well for Lancs too. And as for Craig Overton zzzzzzz
Tbf Overton has had a decent start to the season with 22 wickets at an average of 16
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 10:04 am
by RVclaret
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 10:01 am
Tbf Overton has had a decent start to the season with 22 wickets at an average of 16
Been given many chances for England and is incredibly average
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 10:10 am
by TheFamilyCat
Good to see a couple of old names too.
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 10:18 am
by ClaretTony
onewillieirvine wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 9:55 am
I recall Chris Schofield got a few games about twenty years ago. Prior to him I can only think of Roy Tattersall.
CleggHall wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 10:01 am
Tommy Greenhalgh, Rochdale’s best and Lancashire leg spin.
Very difficult for any spinner to get into the test side on home soil in England, the game and wickets are set up for seam bowlers.
Roy Tattersall was before my time but I certainly remember Tommy Greenhough playing for Lancs.
I think Chris Schofield played twice for England, scored a half century but didn't take a wicket.
Would have liked to have seen Parkinson given an opportunity.
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 11:25 am
by tiger76
Glad to see Anderson and Broad back in the fold, and Brook certainly deserves a shot as does Potts.
How Matty Parkinson is overlooked again baffles me, Leach is steady but he rarely threatens to bowl sides out, even on days 4 and 5 when your spinner should come into the game.
Craig Overton is another who's fortunate to retain his place, and it's likely that if Mahmood had been fit he'd have taken that spot.
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 11:34 am
by Mondsley
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 10:18 am
Roy Tattersall was before my time but I certainly remember Tommy Greenhough playing for Lancs.
I think Chris Schofield played twice for England, scored a half century but didn't take a wicket.
Would have liked to have seen Parkinson given an opportunity.
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Feel really sorry for Parkinson. Carried the drinks all winter and now not picked.
I think you can thank Tommy Greenough for igniting Schoey's interest in becoming a leg spinner. Tommy was a youth coach at Littleborough when Chris was a young lad. Schoey did indeed play 2 tests against Zimbabwe when Bumble was coach. Nasser Hussain, captain at the time was less than complimentary about Schofield 's bowling abilities!quote]
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 11:40 am
by onewillieirvine
Yes, I forgot about Tommy Greenhough, amazing really in the last seventy years or so only three Lancs spinners( I think) have played for England.
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 12:17 pm
by TheFamilyCat
Kerrigan got a cap too. If memory serves it was the last game of the Ashes series we'd already won and flat-track bully Shane Watson smashed him all over.
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 1:09 pm
by DAVETHEVICAR
We have selected “Bowl batters in and don’t take wickets” Jack Leach instead.
Another John Embrury .
Need 20 wickets to win a test
Parkinson is a wicket taker and should be in , every time before Leach.
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 2:11 pm
by Gunfury
I don’t know how Jack Leach keeps getting in,is he seriously the best spinner we have?
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 2:21 pm
by Vanders1994
So much for the bold new regime the idea of pope batting at 3 when he's never batted there for Surrey against one of the best pace attacks in the world is a baffling one , also not sure what Parkinson needs to do to get a cap bowled over 100 more overs than leach this summer and is consistently bowling wicket taking deliveries
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 3:09 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
Vanders1994 wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 2:21 pm
So much for the bold new regime the idea of pope batting at 3 when he's never batted there for Surrey against one of the best pace attacks in the world is a baffling one , also not sure what Parkinson needs to do to get a cap bowled over 100 more overs than leach this summer and is consistently bowling wicket taking deliveries
That’s not how I read the line up. I thought it would be something like:
Crawley
Lees
Bairstow
Root
Brooks
Stokes
Foakes
Leach
Potts
Broad
Anderson
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 3:09 pm
by Quickenthetempo
An international batsman should be able to bat anywhere in the order.
You will have to bat in many different situations.
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 3:11 pm
by ClaretTony
Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 3:09 pm
That’s not how I read the line up. I thought it would be something like:
Crawley
Lees
Bairstow
Root
Brooks
Stokes
Foakes
Leach
Potts
Broad
Anderson
Been confirmed that Pope will bat at 3.
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 3:13 pm
by JohnMcGreal
Gunfury wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 2:11 pm
I don’t know how Jack Leach keeps getting in,is he seriously the best spinner we have?
No.
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 3:14 pm
by jrgbfc
I wouldn't be surprised if Bairstow gets the gloves back and bats at 7.
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 4:21 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 3:11 pm
Been confirmed that Pope will bat at 3.
Seems a strange one, I Missed that
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 5:26 pm
by tiger76
jrgbfc wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 3:14 pm
I wouldn't be surprised if Bairstow gets the gloves back and bats at 7.
Madness with Foakes in the squad, and you just know Bairstow will drop a clanger somewhere in the series which will cost England a lot of runs.
And whoever bats at 7 runs the risk of being stranded with the tail, it's happened to Buttler several times recently when he's been left stranded when well set.
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 6:24 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Foakes dropped a clanger and missed an easy stumping in the last West Indies test.
The WK position seems a little troubled, whoever can get us the most runs will win the shirt.
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 6:59 pm
by Longsidelenny1882
What I’ve seen off leach recently be surprised if he got in the colne team never mind the England team upthecolne
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 10:12 am
by Newcastleclaret93
It’s been confirmed Bairstow is batting at 5. So it looks like Brooks won’t even feature
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 10:32 am
by ClaretTony
Earlier this week, it was confirmed that Saqib Mahmood was ruled out for the season with a stress fracture of the lower back. The same has just been confirmed for Jofra Archer.
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 10:39 am
by RVclaret
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 10:32 am
Earlier this week, it was confirmed that Saqib Mahmood was ruled out for the season with a stress fracture of the lower back. The same has just been confirmed for Jofra Archer.
Bad news. Archer looks done already.
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 10:40 am
by Burnley1989
RVclaret wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 10:39 am
Bad news. Archer looks done already.
I’d agree, a real shame
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 11:26 am
by tiger76
So that's Archer, Fisher & Mahmood our for the summer, Wood has fitness issues as does Stokes, will England be able to field a decent attack beyond the stalwarts in Anderson and Broad, Woakes isn't in the squad either I just noticed, is he another one on the casualty list?
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 11:38 am
by jrgbfc
If Archer can get back I could see him just playing franchise cricket in the IPL, Big Bash etc. Bowl 4 over spells and earn good money while you can, couldn't really blame him.
Re: England Test squad v NZ
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 4:07 pm
by Foulthrow
tiger76 wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 11:26 am
So that's Archer, Fisher & Mahmood our for the summer, Wood has fitness issues as does Stokes, will England be able to field a decent attack beyond the stalwarts in Anderson and Broad, Woakes isn't in the squad either I just noticed, is he another one on the casualty list?
Think so, don’t think he’s played for Warks yet this season.