• Cocaine usage at Football stadiums

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 10:58 am**

https://theathletic.com/news/football-f ... q78Av8wud/

If caught using or selling class A drugs in a football stadium, a 5 yr ban could be your reward and seizure of passport if your team is playing abroad (not applicable to us

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Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 11:03 am**

Should be a lifetime ban and a prison sentence

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 11:05 am**

If they don't give the police more money to enforce this (which in all likelihood they won't) then this will just be a headline with no action behind it other than if people are arrested for other offences and this is just added on top.

The recent Athletic article on this explained how it just takes too many police to try and enforce this at the moment. If you arrest someone you need to take a couple of your matchday force out of the frontline to take them to the police station and they don't have the numbers to do this.

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 11:08 am**

aggi wrote: ↑
Thu May 19, 2022 11:05 am
If they don't give the police more money to enforce this (which in all likelihood they won't) then this will just be a headline with no action behind it other than if people are arrested for other offences and this is just added on top.

The recent Athletic article on this explained how it just takes too many police to try and enforce this at the moment. If you arrest someone you need to take a couple of your matchday force out of the frontline to take them to the police station and they don't have the numbers to do this.

They should have holding cells at the ground and take them all in one go.

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 11:11 am**

aggi wrote: ↑
Thu May 19, 2022 11:05 am
If they don't give the police more money to enforce this (which in all likelihood they won't) then this will just be a headline with no action behind it other than if people are arrested for other offences and this is just added on top.

The recent Athletic article on this explained how it just takes too many police to try and enforce this at the moment. If you arrest someone you need to take a couple of your matchday force out of the frontline to take them to the police station and they don't have the numbers to do this.

Isn't it the responsibility of the club to pay for policing in their stadium? Would the police force not just say they need more officers in the ground to enforce it and increase their bill?

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 11:11 am**

My little lad needed the toilet, not the urinal, at half time. Had to wait 20 minutes to get him in there as so many younger lads were queuing for the crapper too.

Must have been a lot of dodgy pies consumed beforehand.

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 11:12 am**

Venkys4eva wrote: ↑
Thu May 19, 2022 11:08 am
They should have holding cells at the ground and take them all in one go.

I did think that myself!

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 11:14 am**

Why not periodically use sniffer dogs in the ground side of turnstiles. I am sure the clubs can pay the cost of training and utilising the dogs. Would be good training for the dogs and trainers as well. Think of the chaos if one was parked outside the CFS toilets.

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 11:29 am**

There is a fluid that can be applied to flat surfaces, called Blokit, this helps reduce cocaine usage

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 11:31 am**

PNE away in the 2nd promotion season, two lads blatantly snorted it up at the sinks

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 11:59 am**

atlantalad wrote: ↑
Thu May 19, 2022 11:14 am
Why not periodically use sniffer dogs in the ground side of turnstiles. I am sure the clubs can pay the cost of training and utilising the dogs. Would be good training for the dogs and trainers as well. Think of the chaos if one was parked outside the CFS toilets.

The sniffer dogs outside the CFS Turnstiles are not very effective

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 12:03 pm**

They had the sniffer dogs at the away end at Leeds. I can't imagine they were much use, considering the number of lads partaking in it inside the ground. It's going to be like the rules around standing, pitch invasions and the rest. Fine in principle but impossible to enforce.

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 12:04 pm**

Slapping a new headline prison sentence on a crime isn't even attempting to stop it, realistically. You can announce the death penalty, for as long as people know they'll get away with it why would it make a difference?

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 12:11 pm**

The only way to address this is to do it at a society level. Football Clubs, Stewards and match day policing is not going to make any significant impact alone and social drug use is so prevalent in society today that tacking it anywhere is going to be hard

When we don't even seem capable of stopping our MPs who run the country from taking drugs in their place of work what chance have we got of stopping lads doing it in a boozy social environment.

The majority of drugs would be better legalised and controlled in the same way as drink and cigarettes but thats a whole other topic

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 12:15 pm**

When you let something get so big as the cocaine trade is, there's no stopping it.

You can hope it dies out on it's own, but it's been available for too long now. Was it 50s/60s first available?
Or you can throw money at it and big punishments.

But with Police officers, politicians, Judges and other high up people using it regular then bribes will get around it.

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 12:20 pm**

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑
Thu May 19, 2022 12:11 pm
The only way to address this is to do it at a society level. Football Clubs, Stewards and match day policing is not going to make any significant impact alone and social drug use is so prevalent in society today that tacking it anywhere is going to be hard

When we don't even seem capable of stopping our MPs who run the country from taking drugs in their place of work what chance have we got of stopping lads doing it in a boozy social environment.

The majority of drugs would be better legalised and controlled in the same way as drink and cigarettes but thats a whole other topic

Someone on the radio made the point that they should start with Parliament for routine drug testing so as to set a good example

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 12:32 pm**

Our gates might be back down to 3 or 4 thousand if this comes in utc

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 12:41 pm**

atlantalad wrote: ↑
Thu May 19, 2022 11:14 am
Why not periodically use sniffer dogs in the ground side of turnstiles. I am sure the clubs can pay the cost of training and utilising the dogs. Would be good training for the dogs and trainers as well. Think of the chaos if one was parked outside the CFS toilets.

Sniffer dogs were in force at Spurs, in fact my brother got pulled aside when one was sniffing around his arse. He had to empty all pockets and his wallet etc and was given a bit of an interrogation before he was allowed in.

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 12:41 pm**

Be interesting to see the number of people pulled/arrested in the cricketfield. We are told it is awash with coke yet the two dogs never seem to catch anyone. I'm sure we would have had a witty post of the police's twitter account if someone had been nicked with it.

Compared to Goodison where the police seem to have bin bags full of confiscated stuff whenever we visit.

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 12:51 pm**

They should actively encourage the knuckle heads to take ecstasy.

Ive seen many people fight when pi55ed or coked up. Ive never seen someone kick off on ecstasy.

About same price as a twix as well

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 1:00 pm**

Inchy wrote: ↑
Thu May 19, 2022 12:51 pm
About same price as a twix as well

Sounds expensive

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 1:34 pm**

Drugs are not good. Nor are cigarettes or alcohol.
I drink alcohol but not much

I don't like cigarettes or the aftermath if you are close. I know nothing about drugs.

In all cases, it is not the person partaking, it is the outcomes of their behaviour and self control.

If no consequences to behaviour impinging on others, then I don't have an issue.

Not sure of the real need or point to drugs or fags.

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 1:50 pm**

Inchy wrote: ↑
Thu May 19, 2022 12:51 pm
They should actively encourage the knuckle heads to take ecstasy.

Ive seen many people fight when pi55ed or coked up. Ive never seen someone kick off on ecstasy.

About same price as a twix as well

Certainly could've done with a Mitsi or two after some of our performances this season.

As highlighted above, it needs a proper societal change in attitude to drugs which isn't going to happen any time soon - it's all just ******* in the wind in the meantime.

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 2:47 pm**

I think it’s fair to say that at least 50% of people in pubs/clubs are on cocaine.

I always wondered why I struggled to keep up people on nights outs. The answer is fairly obvious now.

Horrible drug is coke. All the knob heads start their crap whilst on it, turns an otherwise normal decent person into a knob head also.

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 3:02 pm**

you have to be all kinds of messed up to sniff anything up your nose from any surface in a public toilet at a football ground.

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 3:27 pm**

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Thu May 19, 2022 3:02 pm
you have to be all kinds of messed up to sniff anything up your nose from any surface in a public toilet at a football ground.

I've been informed by a former user that a house key is now the preferred method, dip into back and snort off the key.

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 3:31 pm**

Inchy wrote: ↑
Thu May 19, 2022 12:51 pm
They should actively encourage the knuckle heads to take ecstasy.

Ive seen many people fight when pi55ed or coked up. Ive never seen someone kick off on ecstasy.

About same price as a twix as well

I while I go I saw (or possibly read) Norman Cook linking the decline in football hooliganism at the end of the '80's with the acid house scene and ecstacy use.

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 3:43 pm**

Venkys4eva wrote: ↑
Thu May 19, 2022 11:08 am
They should have holding cells at the ground and take them all in one go.

I can't imagine many clubs will be keen on building and staffing holding cells, particularly those in the lower leagues. Plus I imagine private incarceration is a bit of a legal minefield.

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑
Thu May 19, 2022 11:11 am
Isn't it the responsibility of the club to pay for policing in their stadium? Would the police force not just say they need more officers in the ground to enforce it and increase their bill?

The clubs are only responsible for paying for the policing inside the ground and it is up to the club to request that, not the police to impose it.

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 4:17 pm**

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑
Thu May 19, 2022 11:29 am
There is a fluid that can be applied to flat surfaces, called Blokit, this helps reduce cocaine usage

What about everyone’s keys ?

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 4:19 pm**

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑
Thu May 19, 2022 3:27 pm
I've been informed by a former user that a house key is now the preferred method, dip into back and snort off the key.

Keys have been used for years as have what they call bullets. Little cylinders that you could discreetly use in a public setting, so you didn't have to go the toilets in 2s and 3s.

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 4:25 pm**

If whatever passes as “ coke” these days bore even the slightest resemblance to cocaine it would likely be far too expensive for the lower orders . Been in widespread use on the terraces since the early 90’s tbf. While it’s not good in the ground it’s hardly the biggest issue facing society or the borderline corruption of the prem

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 5:39 pm**

Whatever happened to glue?

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 5:55 pm**

AlargeClaret wrote: ↑
Thu May 19, 2022 4:25 pm
If whatever passes as “ coke” these days bore even the slightest resemblance to cocaine it would likely be far too expensive for the lower orders . Been in widespread use on the terraces since the early 90’s tbf. While it’s not good in the ground it’s hardly the biggest issue facing society or the borderline corruption of the prem

Yea of course its not a problem, it certainly doesnt make people do crazy things at all

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 6:01 pm**

IanMcL wrote: ↑
Thu May 19, 2022 5:39 pm
Whatever happened to glue?

It didn’t stick around

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 6:06 pm**

Robbie Fowler would be in trouble

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 6:18 pm**

I work on racecourses and used to at Belle Vue dogs when it was open and it's just the same behaviour on Saturdays and coke use has been the blame for countless fights at tracks.Sniffer dogs have been used on entry for a few years now.It does not seem to have made much effect at all. Sometimes I despair at seeing how grown people act under the influence we always say if they saw a recording of themselves they probably would think twice about their consumption

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 6:48 pm**

Say out loud in a cockney accent…. My name is my cocaine

Posted: **Thu May 19, 2022 6:53 pm**

Shaggy wrote: ↑
Thu May 19, 2022 6:48 pm
Say out loud in a cockney accent…. My name is my cocaine

What's the point? Not a lot of people know that!

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