I’ll skip jdrobbo deleting my rating like he does every week. Tierney is absolutely abysmal and can’t wait to give Villa a free kick at every opportunity. 4 all around for him.

This is a very poor display from all officials

I just don't get this game any more, disgraceful from the ref and VAR, unbelievable.

He’s sh*te but then we knew that before ko

It's literally a disgrace

Never a red. Never

Corrupt.

Disgraceful

Started this thread a bit too early

He's gotten a lot worse since

VAR failed us once again. Tierney couldn;t get that red out fast enough.

Scandalous.

Never a 4. Truly, truly corrupt.

Careful guys, if you dare suggest officials were in anyway biased against Burnley in any match you will be accused of having a tin foil hat and that you’re “mental”.

Barnes could have easily been sent off for the elbow, it was nowhere near clear if it hit the Villa's players arm or chest (plus Barnes high boot was prob a foul) so not a pen and it was never a red card for Lowton.

I dont think we were hard done by tonight by VAR or the ref

It says everything that the best we can do is send Michael Oliver and Anthony Taylor to the World Cup. When Atkinson and Dean retire there won’t be a decent referee in the group.

Midget Mancunian *******.

I hope he’s a United fan, because they’re utter shite just like him.

Foul throw in the lead up to the villa goal. We never had possession of the ball until the restart.

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Thu May 19, 2022 9:57 pm

Barnes could have easily been sent off for the elbow, it was nowhere near clear if it hit the Villa's players arm or chest (plus Barnes high boot was prob a foul) so not a pen and it was never a red card for Lowton.

I dont think we were hard done by tonight by VAR or the ref

1: Agree on Barnes, should have been a red.
2: Regardless of high foot, the review was for ‘handball’, if you don’t think that’s a penalty (nor do I), then it wasn’t at Spurs either, as it was in the exact same position.
3: Their goal began from a very, very clear foul throw.
4: That was a bookable offence, not a red card.

Var and the people involved in it can go and fxxk themselves

Tierney. Friend etc sum up the awful standard of referees in England. I think we shoukd get some foreign referees in who understand the game and are unbiased. I remember Tierney's woeful.performance at Huddersfield when he denied us a penalty when Hendricks heels were taken from under him. Hes hopeless.

Nonsense about Barnes nothing there at all
But this fool of a ref couldn't even get throw ins and corners right
And as for the sending off ,Matt played the ball and as he slid in with forward momentum, caught the man

He was absolutely s*** all game. Blowing for absolutely everything. Whistle never left his mouth. That red just summed up his entire performance.

jedi_master wrote: ↑

Thu May 19, 2022 10:00 pm

1: Agree on Barnes, should have been a red.
2: Regardless of high foot, the review was for ‘handball’, if you don’t think that’s a penalty (nor do I), then it wasn’t at Spurs either, as it was in the exact same position.
3: Their goal began from a very, very clear foul throw.
4: That was a bookable offence, not a red card.

I disagree with point 4. Chambers didn't try and win the ball, but the ball was there to be won. And Lowton went for it in the only way he could. It was a natural way to win the ball. Chambers got caught because he didnt compete. It wasn't mistimed. It wasn't high. It wasn't an excessive follow through. It's just football. And Chambers didn't bother to play it.

Roosterbooster wrote: ↑

Thu May 19, 2022 10:04 pm

I disagree with point 4. Chambers didn't try and win the ball, but the ball was there to be won. And Lowton went for it in the only way he could. It was a natural way to win the ball. Chambers got caught because he didnt compete. It wasn't mistimed. It wasn't high. It wasn't an excessive follow through. It's just football. And Chambers didn't bother to play it.

So…you agree with me then?

A disgusting performance.

jedi_master wrote: ↑

Thu May 19, 2022 10:06 pm

So…you agree with me then?

No. It wasn't even a foul. Never mind a booking

jedi_master wrote: ↑

Thu May 19, 2022 10:00 pm

1: Agree on Barnes, should have been a red.
2: Regardless of high foot, the review was for ‘handball’, if you don’t think that’s a penalty (nor do I), then it wasn’t at Spurs either, as it was in the exact same position.
3: Their goal began from a very, very clear foul throw.
4: That was a bookable offence, not a red card.

2: I think the difference between tonights handball and the Spurs one was it was clear it hit Barnes arm. Tonights was impossible to tell if it hit arm or chest so no way VAR can give

3: Agree and should have been picked up by linesman or ref. VAR obviously doesn't go that far back but maybe they should introduce rule that all goal checks should go back and look at every bit of play back to last time the ball was dead. If they did I bet we'd see moaning about VAR taking an extra minute or two for every goal which it would if there was any half contentious tackle

4: Agree

Didnt you say be careful if anyone say the refs are biased yet its you who's the first person to jump on a post for having a different opinion to you

One of the poorest displays of the season and that’s saying something. The lack of consistency was appalling. In many ways he possibly helped us by breaking up every single move as soon as two players contested for the ball.

Tierney did as he was told. He favoured the bigger side in all major decisions.The premier league is the richest league in the world, they should be funding referee development. They have millions to throw at it, but they don’t. And you have to ask why they don't. We know the answer to that, it is so that they can ensure the “correct” results happen more often then not. Not match fixing as such, just favouring certain teams and not the others. Over the course of a season the table will look roughly how they want it to.

He was poor

Lots of really soft stuff given (mainly to Villa)

Not his fault the VAR inconsistency though, thats the fault of the fourth official

And he got the red card wrong as well I think

Roosterbooster wrote: ↑

Thu May 19, 2022 10:07 pm

No. It wasn't even a foul. Never mind a booking

Fair enough, as long as you weren’t saying it was a red!

I would have taken a point before the game but that was ridiculous. Foul throw in lead up to their goal, denied a penalty that was identical to Spurs' at weekend and then a questionable red card for Lowts. VAR is an absolute joke. Bring on Sunday.

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Thu May 19, 2022 10:07 pm

2: I think the difference between tonights handball and the Spurs one was it was clear it hit Barnes arm. Tonights was impossible to tell if it hit arm or chest so no way VAR can give

3: Agree and should have been picked up by linesman or ref. VAR obviously doesn't go that far back but maybe they should introduce rule that all goal checks should go back and look at every bit of play back to last time the ball was dead. If they did I bet we'd see moaning about VAR taking an extra minute or two for every goal which it would if there was any half contentious tackle

4: Agree

Didnt you say be careful if anyone say the refs are biased yet its you who's the first person to jump on a post for having a different opinion to you

I haven’t jumped on anyone, I have given my opinion to the points you made, all valid points may I add. Unsure why you try your best to elicit an argument but you won’t get one

Also, to point 2 once more - interesting that there is no other angle to it unlike the ones shown at Spurs.

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Thu May 19, 2022 10:08 pm

He was poor

Lots of really soft stuff given (mainly to Villa)

Not his fault the VAR inconsistency though, thats the fault of the fourth official

And he got the red card wrong as well I think

The red card was symptomatic of how he’d reffed all game, instant decisions when a Villa player went down. He had his red card out before the Villa player had even had chance to scream.

He’s the opposite of Mike Dean.

Doesn’t let anything go. Slight nudge is a free kick, he’s no idea if the gamesmanship at play. And that’s for both teams. We won free kicks that I didn’t think were free kicks.

Soft ref who doesn’t understand the game

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Thu May 19, 2022 9:57 pm

Barnes could have easily been sent off for the elbow, it was nowhere near clear if it hit the Villa's players arm or chest (plus Barnes high boot was prob a foul) so not a pen and it was never a red card for Lowton.

I dont think we were hard done by tonight by VAR or the ref

I agree, but the ref was still poor. Let nothing go. No one likes to see the game reffed like that

jedi_master wrote: ↑

Thu May 19, 2022 10:11 pm

I haven’t jumped on anyone, I have given my opinion to the points you made, all valid points may I add. Unsure why you try your best to elicit an argument but you won’t get one

Also, to point 2 once more - interesting that there is no other angle to it unlike the ones shown at Spurs.

I agree you made a valid response but in your first post you made a stupid comment about daring to suggest the Premier League is biased against Burnley when I think youre more likely to get comeback if you actual dare to suggest the decisions didnt all go against Burnley tonight

If you dont want an argument maybe dont make such petty babyish comments in the first place.

Disgrace to the Premier League. Refs like him, Friend and Moss are a laughing stock.

Inchy wrote: ↑

Thu May 19, 2022 10:17 pm

I agree, but the ref was still poor. Let nothing go. No one likes to see the game reffed like that

Totally agree the ref was sh*t but we got some decisions our way. Even our penalty (which clearly was one) was the same as the one Everton got against us and which the usual conspiracy crowd will all moaning about at the time

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Thu May 19, 2022 10:18 pm

I agree you made a valid response but in your first post you made a stupid comment about daring to suggest the Premier League is biased against Burnley when I think youre more likely to get comeback if you actual dare to suggest the decisions didnt all go against Burnley tonight

The vast majority went against us to be fair.

He made the game all about him.

jedi_master wrote: ↑

Thu May 19, 2022 10:00 pm

1: Agree on Barnes, should have been a red.
2: Regardless of high foot, the review was for ‘handball’, if you don’t think that’s a penalty (nor do I), then it wasn’t at Spurs either, as it was in the exact same position.
3: Their goal began from a very, very clear foul throw.
4: That was a bookable offence, not a red card.

You had absolutely no idea there was a foul throw, you literally mention that because Sky showed you lol. It was minutes before the goal, ten phases of play prior.

Where's rate the ref?

martin_p wrote: ↑

Thu May 19, 2022 10:20 pm

The vast majority went against us to be fair.

Only Lowton red card one and the fact VAR didnt go back far enough to the throw in. It was never a 2nd penalty and Barnes should have gone so two went against, one for and one decision was just correct

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Thu May 19, 2022 10:20 pm

Totally agree the ref was sh*t but we got some decisions our way. Even our penalty (which clearly was one) was the same as the one Everton got against us and which the usual conspiracy crowd will all moaning about at the time

Yeah I’m not moaning about that


He’s a poor ref. Mike Dean would have given half as many free kicks tonight and football would have been better for it. It was **** for both sides. He let nothing go. Players jumping in front of their man and falling over was an instant free kick. Don’t even need skill to dive with that clown. Poor ref who doesn’t understand the gamesmanship being played

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Thu May 19, 2022 10:18 pm

I agree you made a valid response but in your first post you made a stupid comment about daring to suggest the Premier League is biased against Burnley when I think youre more likely to get comeback if you actual dare to suggest the decisions didnt all go against Burnley tonight

If you dont want an argument maybe dont make such petty babyish comments in the first place.

My opinion is that far more VAR decisions are given against ‘teams like us’ than larger sides. I would imagine that Burnley are not alone feeling that way (I would guess a lot of the smaller teams encounter this strange phenomenon also).

The issue is on this site you cannot say that without being jumped on as being a tin hat wearer, I was merely warning some of the people above me to look out for it as they might not have been aware of what some of our less kind members on here are like.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Thu May 19, 2022 10:22 pm

You had absolutely no idea there was a foul throw, you literally mention that because Sky showed you lol. It was minutes before the goal, ten phases of play prior.

In fairness, I called the foul throw in real time. But that didn’t cost us the goal. What it is is another example of inept officiating though. There are numerous foul throws every game that go unpunished.

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑

Thu May 19, 2022 10:22 pm

Only Lowton red card one and the fact VAR didnt go back far enough to the throw in. It was never a 2nd penalty and Barnes should have gone so two went against, one for and one decision was just correct

I think he made more than four decisions.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Thu May 19, 2022 10:22 pm

You had absolutely no idea there was a foul throw, you literally mention that because Sky showed you lol. It was minutes before the goal, ten phases of play prior.

Sorry, I said ‘FOUL ******* THROW REF’ as he took it. You could ask my Wife if you lived in the Chesterfield area as she told me to shut up for being too loud as our Daughter had just gone to bed.